View Full Version : How do you windows lot stand it?
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 09:34 AM
I had a mac for four years, never had any problem with malware, or sneeky downloads. Now have a work PC and its taken about 4 week for some crappy malware to get in there. I was just installing skype and I now have the ruddy Trovi 'virus'. how does this not just get old really fast?
Before using my Windows computer I learnt how to use it.
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 09:41 AM
Such as installing anti virus software, firewall, only downloading from trusted sites (I downloaded directly from the skype site, which I have done before on my mac and older windows machines.)
You don't miss what you never had.
I would very much doubt that Skype installed a trojan, if it did it would have to be included in the Skype installer.
I have used Windows since 3.1 and the only virus I had was cause by a bug in XP which Microsoft fixed pretty quickly. Probably wouldn't have even got that if I had auto updates on.
Someone has installed something on there which has included the Trovi software.
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 09:50 AM
It was the skype download. I Un-installed skype, restarted and its gone.
SvNewbie
28-04-14, 10:03 AM
I install Ubuntu. First thing I've done with my last 3 laptops (going back nearly 10 years now!).
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 10:06 AM
Sounds appealing, but I am not sure I have the skill to then install the other bits of software that I need.
get hackintosh on it and run parallels ;)
SvNewbie
28-04-14, 10:10 AM
Almost all development related stuff is easier in Ubuntu than Windows (with the exception of writing Windows desktop programs or Apple Apps).
But yeah, sometimes it can be a pain to get things to work.
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 10:11 AM
I might try a parallel install at some point.
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 10:15 AM
get hackintosh on it and run parallels ;)
I quite like using windows 7, it is nice and simple, just annoys me hows easy it is got get useless cr@p (at the best of times) on there. I am beign very careful about keeping this install clean, just purely work related stuff on here, and it still get in.
sumimasen
28-04-14, 03:22 PM
I doubt that if you got a trojan/virus with an installer it would be stupid enough to get uninstalled as part of that app.
(Apart from the fact that if Skype themselves published Trojans in their app there would be more noise about it)
I use both osx and win machines, and I like both. Have had problems with both though, so don't think one of them is particularly superior.
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Been using w7 for a while. Never got a virus whilst using avast free. Warns you if dodgy websites aswell. Not that I go on dodgy websites. .......
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timwilky
28-04-14, 03:36 PM
Easy, phone the helpdesk. Their problem.
ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 03:38 PM
It was a dodgy install, Skype itself did not contain it, but additional software from Conduit (apparently) was installed at the same time. It just adds something to the browser so that all your searches go through trovit so they get advertising revenues not google. It therefore messes up your browser and gets rid of the standard google new tab (so you have to search through their software).
Not a major virus attack but a pain in the rear end. I know Macs are just as suseptable to this type of attack, but they don't seem to be made as much. It annoyed me because I needed to use skype to make a call this morning.
sumimasen
28-04-14, 04:00 PM
Ah, those sponsored toolbars for your browser... Hate those.
Main reason there is just so much more viruses etc for win machines is not because its so much worse, its because of the potential number of computers impacted. If you write a virus, you would most likely target the platform with the most users, unless you have a serious hate on Apple (considering the recent news about the salary-cartel that likelihood might increase)
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ClunkintheUK
28-04-14, 04:04 PM
Yeah, similar to that.
It was a bit of an over reaction, just came at the wrong time.
Spank86
28-04-14, 05:23 PM
I quite like using windows 7, it is nice and simple, just annoys me hows easy it is got get useless cr@p (at the best of times) on there. I am beign very careful about keeping this install clean, just purely work related stuff on here, and it still get in.
You get lots of viruses for it because it's so popular.
If macs were so popular they'd get more viruses but as they're still nice very few people bother to write them.
Plus the whole walled garden thing makes it easier to secure.
Personally I've never had a serious virus problem in all my years of extreme porning.
Nothing a virus and malware checker wont straighten in a few mins anyway.
in all my years of extreme porning.
Nothing a virus and malware checker wont straighten in a few mins anyway.
Don't hold back spank, just let it all out ;)
It's a fact of life. The more popular you are the more people want to bring you down.
Littlepeahead
28-04-14, 07:34 PM
Are you talking about Spank?
Are you talking about Spank?
:p
Spank86
28-04-14, 08:45 PM
Are you talking about Spank?
In certain circles I'm incredibly popular.
These are quite small circles of course, some might call them dots.
DJFridge
28-04-14, 09:28 PM
Never owned a Mac. Nothing particularly against them - I love my iPod - but I've always been happy enough with Windows. I would love to give Linux, in one of it's many flavours, a go but our laptop is allergic to it. Windows can cope with a soft-touch button to switch the wireless on and off. No Linux distro that I have tried (various versions of Ubuntu, openSUSE, Zorin, Cinnamon) can do that simple task. So Windows 7 it is.
BanannaMan
29-04-14, 06:57 AM
Think of Windows as your new trashy girl friend.
Windows is popular so you're going to need some protection or she'll likely leave you with some nasty virus or such.
(mostly malware tbh)
Enjoy it! It's all part of the Winows experiance, innit?
yorkie_chris
29-04-14, 07:23 AM
Well when you're sat on a chair made of money from all the hardware savings, installing a bit of anti-malware isn't so hard...
I've had this machine for >2 years with no anti virus/anti malware on there at all and not had a problem, I think you must just be looking at ladyboys or something.
Well when you're sat on a chair made of money from all the hardware savings, installing a bit of anti-malware isn't so hard...
I've had this machine for >2 years with no anti virus/anti malware on there at all and not had a problem, I think you must just be looking at ladyboys or something.
How do you know you don't have a problem if you don't have any software installed that will tell you if you have a problem? :confused:
maviczap
29-04-14, 08:35 AM
It was a dodgy install, Skype itself did not contain it, but additional software from Conduit (apparently) was installed at the same time. It just adds something to the browser so that all your searches go through trovit so they get advertising revenues not google. It therefore messes up your browser and gets rid of the standard google new tab (so you have to search through their software).
Not a major virus attack but a pain in the rear end. I know Macs are just as suseptable to this type of attack, but they don't seem to be made as much. It annoyed me because I needed to use skype to make a call this morning.
I had this Conduit self install itself, probably through a download through Cnet, which was usually free of this kinda crap.
Its a browser hijacker, which was reasonably simple to remove, but still a pain in the neck.
In all my years of Windows use, I've only had a virus infect my system twice & both times my Anti Virus has quarantined it. Most of my problems arise from stupid chain mails that my wife's friends forward onto her.
I've not downloaded any viruses from the sites I download software from & I don't bother with pron sites, as that's where the problems usually emanate from.
It was a dodgy install, Skype itself did not contain it, but additional software from Conduit (apparently) was installed at the same time. It just adds something to the browser so that all your searches go through trovit so they get advertising revenues not google. It therefore messes up your browser and gets rid of the standard google new tab (so you have to search through their software).
Not a major virus attack but a pain in the rear end. I know Macs are just as suseptable to this type of attack, but they don't seem to be made as much. It annoyed me because I needed to use skype to make a call this morning.User error then :) Always check what you're about to install. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many packages now have a tick box that you MUST untick (Or the clever ones...Tick) to stop you loading erroneous Chite. My mates laptop was full of the stuff.
yorkie_chris
29-04-14, 11:55 AM
How do you know you don't have a problem if you don't have any software installed that will tell you if you have a problem? :confused:
cos it still works.
Lets have a look see... (heads off towards malware bytes site) back in 5 min...
Lets have a look see... (heads off towards malware bytes site) back in 5 min...
I'm worried now :???:
yorkie_chris
29-04-14, 01:03 PM
Yep bugger all wrong with it!
I do use firefox rather than IE though.
I think half the carp about Windows being affected by trojans and the like is spread by McAffee just to get people to buy their bloatware which 90% of the time causes you more headache than the malware itself.
atassiedevil
29-04-14, 02:43 PM
How to stress test your cpu?
install Vista
McAffee
AOL.
DJFridge
01-05-14, 08:58 AM
How to stress test your cpu?
install Vista
McAffee
AOL.
Does anybody still use AOL?
atassiedevil
01-05-14, 09:00 AM
Unfortunately, yes they do.
maviczap
01-05-14, 10:56 AM
Does anybody still use AOL?
Only as my email client, not for their bloatware.
Googlechrome now
ClunkintheUK
01-05-14, 11:38 AM
There is no perusing the internet art sites on this machine, and I only have 7 bits of software on it (chrome, firefox, evernote, mockups, office, spotify and skype) oh and the Python codec. Its a work machine.
My mac, however is full of crap, lots of photos (non-internet-art) helmet cam footage (again of the non-internet-art variety), half a dozen IDE's from trying to learn various different programming languages and my browser history would probably make Spank blush, not a problem in 4 years.
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