AR14 Convoy East Cost

[andrewsmith]

Right folks

To help anyone wanting people to ride up with on the East coast.

[kaivalagi]

Thanks Andrew

Well based on the advice on the last leg route starting just before Darlington heading up to the camp site here's what I am suggesting from Norwich, so based on others coming up from the South East we can adapt this to include those people with another meeting point between point A and B...obvious Norwich as a waypoint ain't gonna work but this route is a starting point for a bigger one covering all the requirements off once we know what they are.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/route1_zpsd281bdfd.png
Click to open google maps
(https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Norwich+NR7+9UX&daddr=Unknown+road+to:Unknown+road+to:B6278+to:A68 +to:Crawleyside+Bank%2FB6278+to:B6320+to:Unknown+r oad&hl=en&ll=53.787672,0.285645&spn=3.875164,10.821533&sll=53.388703,-1.064901&sspn=0.01528,0.042272&geocode=FRBCIwMdoVUUACmHnqGbqOPZRzE_E_dJfGnlNA%3BF ZqgLgMdcMLv_w%3BFfG4PgMd24Lm_w%3BFZW0QAMd6nzi_w%3B FUAnRQMdO4Ti_w%3BFUuBQwMdjEHh_w%3BFQixRwMd9IXf_w%3 BFahuSQMdBJ_d_w&oq=bawtry+road,&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=15&z=7)

Point B is a services point which I figure would be a good place for people to join the convoy but we really need to know who is heading up from the south west and how far a route needs establishing from, then we can figure how to join the dots and build up a nice convoy properly :)

If we can use google for planning this it would be best, we can then take google routes through Tyre and create what is needed for peoples satnavs etc...

So.....speak up and lets get planning

[Matt-EUC]

I'm good to meet at point B I think.

I'm probably the only one from the GM going this year so unless I tag along with the TV guys I'm ridin solo.

8ESdn0MuJWQ



Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

Is there a good straight route suitable for car and trailer?

[kaivalagi]

Nice boring roads....of course, just use the sat nav

[NTECUK]

As much as sat navigation never let and one down ;)
A1, Scotch corner then?
Oh should I bring spare oil for the pre ride check????

[Matt-EUC]

YES!


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

YES!


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.
Should I rent the 3 bike trailer instead of using my one?

[Matt-EUC]

Probably wise. Yes.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

So your bringing the curvy then!
I've a strong rope can tow you lol.

[Matt-EUC]

I'm bringing the Strom. The trailer and oil is not for me.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

Might be able to borrow a twin bike trailer if the other bod wants to trailer it up and down.
One bike on the trailer makes it a bit uneasy

[kaivalagi]

I should add I am heading up on the Friday....

[suzukigt380paul]

I should add I am heading up on the Friday....me to,possibly with maviczap

[kaivalagi]

We definitely have to meet up en-route then....point B in the route on posted or before? How would you be heading into Cambridgeshire?

[maviczap]

me to,possibly with maviczap

We definitely have to meet up en-route then....point B in the route on posted or before? How would you be heading into Cambridgeshire?

Yep, that's the plan set off on Friday. Although perversely I will be in Liverpool until Thursday and it would make sense to ride my bike up on Sunday, and then travel cross country.

But I don't think my family would appreciate not seeing me for a week

[kaivalagi]

Thanks to NTEC's Biker's Britain guide I've knocked up this alternative route...adds 50 miles on but wow! Seriously tempted even if it's 8 1/2 hours

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/eastcoastbackroads_zps690a526d.png
Click to open google maps (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Unknown+road+to:B1178+to:Branston+Causeway%2 FB1190+to:B1190+to:A158+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Un known+road+to:A18+to:A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248 +to:Main+St%2FA614+to:B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+t o:B1257+to:B1257+to:B1365+to:A689+to:Unknown+road+ to:B6305+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and+Bunkhouse,+B ellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=54.099671,-0.362549&spn=1.455957,3.56781&sll=53.535411,-0.296116&sspn=0.092229,0.222988&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbq4IgMdNG78_w%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w %3BFT27KwMduQH6_w%3BFXLHKwMdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFVLdOwMdV Efv_w%3BFSFUPwMdFtbt_w%3BFf0AQgMda0Pn_w%3BFexkQwMd 00Tg_w%3BFe6ORgMd29ze_w%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4ar58qz Nimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mrv&z=8)

[andrewsmith]

Thanks to NTEC's Biker's Britain guide I've knocked up this alternative route...adds 50 miles on but wow! Seriously tempted even if it's 8 1/2 hours

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/eastcoastbackroads_zps690a526d.png
Click to open google maps (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Unknown+road+to:B1178+to:Branston+Causeway%2 FB1190+to:B1190+to:A158+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Un known+road+to:A18+to:A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248 +to:Main+St%2FA614+to:B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+t o:B1257+to:B1257+to:B1365+to:A689+to:Unknown+road+ to:B6305+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and+Bunkhouse,+B ellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=54.099671,-0.362549&spn=1.455957,3.56781&sll=53.535411,-0.296116&sspn=0.092229,0.222988&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbq4IgMdNG78_w%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w %3BFT27KwMduQH6_w%3BFXLHKwMdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFVLdOwMdV Efv_w%3BFSFUPwMdFtbt_w%3BFf0AQgMda0Pn_w%3BFexkQwMd 00Tg_w%3BFe6ORgMd29ze_w%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4ar58qz Nimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mrv&z=8)

All I will say!!!


DO IT

[kaivalagi]

All I will say!!!
DO IT

I know......and although it says 2 hours more than the other route I bet I can get that down a bit, especially on those back roads. My only concern is fuel stops, I need to plan those well as I am not pushing a Rocket III! 6am start I reckon so I get some serious R&R in once at the camp/pub

[andrewsmith]

Looking at the route. Fill at Peterbrough; around Hell, sorry Hull then Teeside

[kaivalagi]

Looking at the route. Fill at Peterbrough; around Hell, sorry Hull then Teeside

Makes sense, I'll get this into BaseCamp over the weekend and add in the POI's for fuel stops then the jobs a goodun :)

So.......anyone else fancy making a proper trip of it...meet at Peterborough if you're no coming from Norfolk?

I'll be heading to Manchester on the way back, to stop over with Family, then I'll hit the peaks on the way back :)

[maviczap]

Post the route up Mark, but I think I'll be doing the boring A1 straight up, just to get there a bit quicker for a bit more of a rest before the ride out.

Here's my itinerary from Thursday

Thursday -Liverpool - Home (4 wheels)
Fri - Home - AR14 site (SV)
Sat - AR rideout (Sv)
Sun - AR14 - home (Sv)

Its a lit of miles in a few days, hence my wanting to go the direct (but boring) way

[NTECUK]

If I can get some acupuncture on the Thursday I might try the interesting route

[Bibio]

you might find the of use for petrol

http://www.whatgas.com/petrol-prices/scotland.html#.U4ENtvvFFR0

just ignore the scotland part id does the whole of the UK

[andrewsmith]

you might find the of use for petrol

http://www.whatgas.com/petrol-prices/scotland.html#.U4ENtvvFFR0

just ignore the scotland part id does the whole of the UK

So people are aware.
At Hexham, only the Shell is now open as the Esso isn't being rebuilt after a tank leak

[andrewsmith]

Thanks to NTEC's Biker's Britain guide I've knocked up this alternative route...adds 50 miles on but wow! Seriously tempted even if it's 8 1/2 hours

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/eastcoastbackroads_zps690a526d.png
Click to open google maps (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Unknown+road+to:B1178+to:Branston+Causeway%2 FB1190+to:B1190+to:A158+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Un known+road+to:A18+to:A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248 +to:Main+St%2FA614+to:B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+t o:B1257+to:B1257+to:B1365+to:A689+to:Unknown+road+ to:B6305+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and+Bunkhouse,+B ellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=54.099671,-0.362549&spn=1.455957,3.56781&sll=53.535411,-0.296116&sspn=0.092229,0.222988&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbq4IgMdNG78_w%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w %3BFT27KwMduQH6_w%3BFXLHKwMdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFVLdOwMdV Efv_w%3BFSFUPwMdFtbt_w%3BFf0AQgMda0Pn_w%3BFexkQwMd 00Tg_w%3BFe6ORgMd29ze_w%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4ar58qz Nimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mrv&z=8)

So your aware. You'll get stuck at Helmsley as Farmyard Party is on

[littleoldman2]

Thanks to NTEC's Biker's Britain guide I've knocked up this alternative route...adds 50 miles on but wow! Seriously tempted even if it's 8 1/2 hours

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy91/kaivalagi/Scratch/eastcoastbackroads_zps690a526d.png
Click to open google maps (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Unknown+road+to:B1178+to:Branston+Causeway%2 FB1190+to:B1190+to:A158+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Un known+road+to:A18+to:A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248 +to:Main+St%2FA614+to:B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+t o:B1257+to:B1257+to:B1365+to:A689+to:Unknown+road+ to:B6305+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and+Bunkhouse,+B ellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=54.099671,-0.362549&spn=1.455957,3.56781&sll=53.535411,-0.296116&sspn=0.092229,0.222988&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbq4IgMdNG78_w%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w %3BFT27KwMduQH6_w%3BFXLHKwMdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFVLdOwMdV Efv_w%3BFSFUPwMdFtbt_w%3BFf0AQgMda0Pn_w%3BFexkQwMd 00Tg_w%3BFe6ORgMd29ze_w%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4ar58qz Nimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mrv&z=8)

I rode part of this route from F till the A174 last Bank Holiday Monday and it's a nice route all good.:smile:

[maviczap]

Right update from me. Because I've been a complete divvy with the dates of my training, I will be riding to AR14 on Friday from Liverpool. It saves me driving home late on the Thursday night & then riding from Ipswich to the site on the Friday.

I'll make sure Paul know this

[suzukigt380paul]

Right update from me. Because I've been a complete divvy with the dates of my training, I will be riding to AR14 on Friday from Liverpool. It saves me driving home late on the Thursday night & then riding from Ipswich to the site on the Friday.

I'll make sure Paul know thisnoted,any one else meeting in the ipswich area on friday to go up north

[kaivalagi]

noted,any one else meeting in the ipswich area on friday to go up north

No but make sure we hook up en-route, if it's the main roads or back roads I don't mind

[suzukigt380paul]

No but make sure we hook up en-route, if it's the main roads or back roads I don't mindare you going up on the triumph tractor or a normal bike!

[kaivalagi]

are you going up on the triumph tractor or a normal bike!

lol, Tractor....should be fun on the tight corners

[suzukigt380paul]

lol, Tractor....should be fun on the tight cornersyour a braver man then me,
what meeting point are you thinking of

[kaivalagi]

Somewhere near point B on either map I posted (post 2 (http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2956296&postcount=2) / post 17 (http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2957275&postcount=17)) would not put either of us out of our way assuming we can get the timing right, but I am not sure on services around that way...alternatively we could meet somewhere closer to home, say Thetford...when I have more time at the weekend I'll do a little digging unless you can make any suggestions for places?

[suzukigt380paul]

Somewhere near point B on either map I posted (post 2 (http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2956296&postcount=2) / post 17 (http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2957275&postcount=17)) would not put either of us out of our way assuming we can get the timing right, but I am not sure on services around that way...alternatively we could meet somewhere closer to home, say Thetford...when I have more time at the weekend I'll do a little digging unless you can make any suggestions for places?somewhere like thetford sounds good,its closer to home and i stand a chance of finding it,if you sort a time and a location at or around thetford,dont know what way you will be coming from,one landmark out that way that springs to mind is the pub,the norton dog,but what ever works for us both,

[NTECUK]

You going to stop for petrol in Peterborough?
If you have a point there ill tag on the end.
Yes im going to risk my knee

[kaivalagi]

Good man, I'll try and figure out where in Peterborough at the weekend, might make more sense for us all to meet there to be honest...

@Paul, you okay meeting in Peterborough instead? Is there a McD's etc next to a petrol station anywhere do you know? I'll do some digging in a few days anyway...

[suzukigt380paul]

Good man, I'll try and figure out where in Peterborough at the weekend, might make more sense for us all to meet there to be honest...

@Paul, you okay meeting in Peterborough instead? Is there a McD's etc next to a petrol station anywhere do you know? I'll do some digging in a few days anyway...sounds good,but dont know peterborough at all,so will need details of place so i can find it on google maps

[NTECUK]

Your near ipswich Paul?

[kaivalagi]

sounds good,but dont know peterborough at all,so will need details of place so i can find it on google maps

That makes two of us :)

Just had a good look and I think we would be better meeting somewhere like Wisbech, we'll get onto the A1 via the A17 from there, it's less of a detour for me and for you too. There's a Petrol station and a Morrisons supermarket on the A1101 so if we want to get some bits before heading on up north we can, here's the map link (http://goo.gl/maps/cujNp)

My A1 based route so far: linky (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=NR7&daddr=Downham+Rd%2FA1122+to:Elm+High+Rd%2FA1101+to :52.9449936,-0.423375+to:Unknown+road+to:Unknown+road+to:54.606 4967,-1.6794324+to:54.7486863,-2.0101728+to:54.8964334,-2.2599339+to:B6305+to:Bellingham,+UK&hl=en&ll=53.891391,-0.98877&spn=3.865584,10.821533&sll=52.646396,0.409927&sspn=0.248715,0.676346&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFRK4IgMdhmIGAA%3BFU9gIwMd9p0CAA %3BFWHgJwMdMYr5_yl1cl6P6T14SDHvDqSGv09whA%3BFd-cLAMd_PHx_w%3BFRPAPgMdw5Dm_w%3BFc8mQQMdiXjm_ykNf1B zzIJ-SDEJEi51gl33lw%3BFZFlQwMdVFXh_ykz1xNwPjN8SDFtzdpEW W56rg%3BFTGnRQMdrYXd_ykJeUGLJ7d9SDGENiKNBkhvzg%3BF XxtRgMd5wDe_ynFZf2b07l9SDH76FVIZETpDw%3BFTR1SQMdtJ rd_ymhWdrCvJV9SDHArbQLCSQDPQ&oq=NR7&t=h&mra=mivtw&via=3&z=7)

Point C is the Wisbech meet I'm suggesting, point D the McD's and petrol stop to meet others heading north

Open to suggestions though :)

Martin, you prefer a more direct route like this considering your knee? I've discounted the other twistier route on the basis that it would be just about okay if I were on my mine not having to consider others (maybe...) but it's a lot more to do (2 hours more) and we have a long weekend ahead of it...

btw, maybe heading up on the SM-T yet....need to get a quote to extend my annual mileage on the rocket, done much more miles than I anticipated and I figure they'll royally screw me on adding some more as I get a good deal on the initial policy...

[suzukigt380paul]

That makes two of us :)

Just had a good look and I think we would be better meeting somewhere like Wisbech, we'll get onto the A1 via the A17 from there, it's less of a detour for me and for you too. There's a Petrol station and a Morrisons supermarket on the A1101 so if we want to get some bits before heading on up north we can, here's the map link (http://goo.gl/maps/cujNp)sure i will be able to find it,what time are you thinking of meeting up there

[suzukigt380paul]

Your near ipswich Paul?very near

[kaivalagi]

sure i will be able to find it,what time are you thinking of meeting up there

If we give ourselves an hour and a half to get to point D for midday we need to leave Wisbech at 10:30...so say 10am at point C? Assuming all this works for Martin too....

I figure we should arrive in Bellingham around 4:30pm with a fuel stop further on along with a short break

[suzukigt380paul]

If we give ourselves an hour and a half to get to point D for midday we need to leave Wisbech at 10:30...so say 10am at point C? Assuming all this works for Martin too....

I figure we should arrive in Bellingham around 4:30pm with a fuel stop further on along with a short breakleave Wisbech at 10:30.so meet at the Petrol station at Morrisons supermarket on the A1101 at about 10am, but dont get the 10am at point c,as we are leaving wisbech at 10.30,or am i missing something

[kaivalagi]

leave Wisbech at 10:30.so meet at the Petrol station at Morrisons supermarket on the A1101 at about 10am, but dont get the 10am at point c,as we are leaving wisbech at 10.30,or am i missing something

Point C is Wisbech on the map I posted, 10am at Wisbech Morrisons anyway :)

Have a look at the google map route I posted to get an idea, i.e. this one (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=NR7&daddr=Downham+Rd%2FA1122+to:Elm+High+Rd%2FA1101+to :52.9449936,-0.423375+to:Unknown+road+to:Unknown+road+to:54.606 4967,-1.6794324+to:54.7486863,-2.0101728+to:54.8964334,-2.2599339+to:B6305+to:Bellingham,+UK&hl=en&ll=53.891391,-0.98877&spn=3.865584,10.821533&sll=52.646396,0.409927&sspn=0.248715,0.676346&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFRK4IgMdhmIGAA%3BFU9gIwMd9p0CAA %3BFWHgJwMdMYr5_yl1cl6P6T14SDHvDqSGv09whA%3BFd-cLAMd_PHx_w%3BFRPAPgMdw5Dm_w%3BFc8mQQMdiXjm_ykNf1B zzIJ-SDEJEi51gl33lw%3BFZFlQwMdVFXh_ykz1xNwPjN8SDFtzdpEW W56rg%3BFTGnRQMdrYXd_ykJeUGLJ7d9SDGENiKNBkhvzg%3BF XxtRgMd5wDe_ynFZf2b07l9SDH76FVIZETpDw%3BFTR1SQMdtJ rd_ymhWdrCvJV9SDHArbQLCSQDPQ&oq=NR7&t=h&mra=mivtw&via=3&z=7)

[suzukigt380paul]

Point C is Wisbech on the map I posted, 10am at Wisbech Morrisons anyway :)

Have a look at the google map route I posted to get an idea, i.e. this one (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=NR7&daddr=Downham+Rd%2FA1122+to:Elm+High+Rd%2FA1101+to :52.9449936,-0.423375+to:Unknown+road+to:Unknown+road+to:54.606 4967,-1.6794324+to:54.7486863,-2.0101728+to:54.8964334,-2.2599339+to:B6305+to:Bellingham,+UK&hl=en&ll=53.891391,-0.98877&spn=3.865584,10.821533&sll=52.646396,0.409927&sspn=0.248715,0.676346&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFRK4IgMdhmIGAA%3BFU9gIwMd9p0CAA %3BFWHgJwMdMYr5_yl1cl6P6T14SDHvDqSGv09whA%3BFd-cLAMd_PHx_w%3BFRPAPgMdw5Dm_w%3BFc8mQQMdiXjm_ykNf1B zzIJ-SDEJEi51gl33lw%3BFZFlQwMdVFXh_ykz1xNwPjN8SDFtzdpEW W56rg%3BFTGnRQMdrYXd_ykJeUGLJ7d9SDGENiKNBkhvzg%3BF XxtRgMd5wDe_ynFZf2b07l9SDH76FVIZETpDw%3BFTR1SQMdtJ rd_ymhWdrCvJV9SDHArbQLCSQDPQ&oq=NR7&t=h&mra=mivtw&via=3&z=7)are!! looking at the wrong/earlier map

[NTECUK]

Knee and acupuncture. Kind of working Ok.
But like your thinking about the long weekend and just reduce time.
Paul has ipswich as his home town so that's a easy link for me. Then join up with the you.
I'm not taking much as Sarah is meeting up with me at Bo Rig.

[suzukigt380paul]

Knee and acupuncture. Kind of working Ok.
But like your thinking about the long weekend and just reduce time.
Paul has ipswich as his home town so that's a easy link for me. Then join up with the you.
I'm not taking much as Sarah is meeting up with me at Bo Rig.if you want to meet up before wisbech,that will be fine with me,

[NTECUK]

Ok pic a time & point ipswich ways.

[suzukigt380paul]

Ok pic a time & point ipswich ways.8am tesco copdock interchange,at the petrol station near toy r us,if that will work for you

[NTECUK]

Ok see you there.

[punyXpress]

Just a reminder about A1(M):
" Southbound from Catterick to Leeming Bar is now a 50mph zone with the cameras all on! "
. . and have been installed northbound :(

[andrewsmith]

Just a reminder about A1(M):
" Southbound from Catterick to Leeming Bar is now a 50mph zone with the cameras all on! "
. . and have been installed northbound :(

And Washington to Gosforth is 50 with roadworks

written with a biro

[NTECUK]

Ok looks a mess with 20 mph on the traffic page. Any other routes

[andrewsmith]

Ok looks a mess with 20 mph on the traffic page. Any other routes

For which bit?

written with a biro

[Bibio]

http://goo.gl/maps/YZ743

[NTECUK]

And Washington to Gosforth is 50 with roadworks

written with a biro
That bit and
http://www.trafficengland.com/map.aspx?long0=-208.90435896713166&lat0=3270.577141640935&long1=3.968233625461039&lat1=3181.0851077426305

[andrewsmith]

For anyone coming up the A1 (I do not know why you would)
Avoid avoid avoid the following bit <<CLICKY>> (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/54.9063544,-1.5677585/54.9557188,-1.6772355/@54.9307729,-1.6417445,11z/data=!4m3!4m2!1m0!1m0)

[kaivalagi]

Martin/Paul, I think we need to get a little creative on the route, taking on Bibio's suggestion for a start and maybe trying to remove other bits on the A1 too....that Biker's Britain route is tempting but it's another 2 hours on top of an already long day....what do you think? Shall I get busy over the next few days (in between Snetterton BSB :))

[suzukigt380paul]

Martin/Paul, I think we need to get a little creative on the route, taking on Bibio's suggestion for a start and maybe trying to remove other bits on the A1 too....that Biker's Britain route is tempting but it's another 2 hours on top of an already long day....what do you think? Shall I get busy over the next few days (in between Snetterton BSB :))loooks like the longer route may be the better option

[andrewsmith]

I'll meet you at A1/ A66 services if your wanting a diverted route

[NTECUK]

Well if we get caught up in heavy traffic ,maybe the other route wont be as tiring?.

[kaivalagi]

It would be a long bloody day though...not arriving at base until after 6....I'm game if you are though to do the scenic twisty route, it would be a good adventure :)

Andrew, you mentioned getting stuck at Helmsley, will it be that bad? Looks like a gorgeous bit of road to miss if diverted from....is it this I need to be worried about: http://www.helmsleyarts.co.uk/shows+on/20-06-2014 really, does it attract that many people?

[andrewsmith]

No its the Farmyard Rally http://www.farmyardparty.com/farmyard-party/directions

It will be about the same time.
The route would be:
- A1/ A66 services
- Barnard Castle
- Stanhope
- Allendale
- Hexham
- Campsite

[Bibio]

as an example! from Southend-on-Sea it should only take you 8-10hrs including lots and lots of stops. if your taking MW for 1/2 of it then you can knock a good 2hrs of that.

personally MW's do my nut in and i find them more tiring than the scenic route.

[kaivalagi]

No its the Farmyard Rally http://www.farmyardparty.com/farmyard-party/directions

It will be about the same time.
The route would be:
- A1/ A66 services
- Barnard Castle
- Stanhope
- Allendale
- Hexham
- Campsite

So something like this (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Brandon+Rd%2FB1108+to:40+Elm+High+Rd,+Wisbec h+PE14+0DQ,+United+Kingdom+to:B1178+to:B1190+to:A1 58+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Unknown+road+to:A18+to: A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248+to:Main+St%2FA614+to :B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+to:B1257+to:A168+to:B6 271+to:Moto+Service+Area+Middleton+Tyas+Ln,+Scotch +Corner+(A1%2FA66),+North+Yorkshire+DL10+6PQ+to:Ba rnard+Castle,+County+Durham+DL12,+UK+to:Stanhope+t o:Allendale+to:Hexham+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and +Bunkhouse,+Bellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=53.859007,0.911865&spn=3.868576,10.821533&sll=52.65806,0.697632&sspn=0.497296,1.352692&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbARIgMdlP0LAA%3BFQBeIwMdrp4CAC nPgO2rIgPYRzFrVQqkNiKzjA%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w%3BFXLHKw MdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFT0BPAMd2 znr_w%3BFTqSPQMd1njo_w%3BFTfBPgMdGo_m_yGvc3rRlnt7T imXNt5VlJ9-SDGvc3rRlnt7Tg%3BFYRLQAMdY6Xi_ykxgk2ZXyN8SDGCQ2aqo jXioA%3BFRRpQwMdWk_h_yn1igN9FTN8SDG0A6LQPzJOsQ%3BF S9RRQMdu7vd_ykxkCR66rB9SDGiW0EhPI_Xzw%3BFfnQRgMdcM Xf_ykVmDENYpB9SDEEwA0heCs6qA%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4a r58qzNimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mivtw&z=7) with our back road route...

personally MW's do my nut in and i find them more tiring than the scenic route.
I know what you mean, frustrating as hell...

So, what do you think guys, you up for this? Again I worry about running out of fuel....I wonder if my jerry can fits in my panniers lol...

edit: Guys, fuel at Wisbech (point D) then M180/A15 (Point J - 115 miles) then A1/A66 services (Point T - 100 miles)

[Matt-EUC]

I think I'm going up with Monsieur TonyK.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[andrewsmith]

So something like this (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Brandon+Rd%2FB1108+to:40+Elm+High+Rd,+Wisbec h+PE14+0DQ,+United+Kingdom+to:B1178+to:B1190+to:A1 58+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Unknown+road+to:A18+to: A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248+to:Main+St%2FA614+to :B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+to:B1257+to:A168+to:B6 271+to:Moto+Service+Area+Middleton+Tyas+Ln,+Scotch +Corner+(A1%2FA66),+North+Yorkshire+DL10+6PQ+to:Ba rnard+Castle,+County+Durham+DL12,+UK+to:Stanhope+t o:Allendale+to:Hexham+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and +Bunkhouse,+Bellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=53.859007,0.911865&spn=3.868576,10.821533&sll=52.65806,0.697632&sspn=0.497296,1.352692&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbARIgMdlP0LAA%3BFQBeIwMdrp4CAC nPgO2rIgPYRzFrVQqkNiKzjA%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w%3BFXLHKw MdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFT0BPAMd2 znr_w%3BFTqSPQMd1njo_w%3BFTfBPgMdGo_m_yGvc3rRlnt7T imXNt5VlJ9-SDGvc3rRlnt7Tg%3BFYRLQAMdY6Xi_ykxgk2ZXyN8SDGCQ2aqo jXioA%3BFRRpQwMdWk_h_yn1igN9FTN8SDG0A6LQPzJOsQ%3BF S9RRQMdu7vd_ykxkCR66rB9SDGiW0EhPI_Xzw%3BFfnQRgMdcM Xf_ykVmDENYpB9SDEEwA0heCs6qA%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4a r58qzNimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mivtw&z=7) with our back road route...


I know what you mean, frustrating as hell...

So, what do you think guys, you up for this? Again I worry about running out of fuel....I wonder if my jerry can fits in my panniers lol...

Yes
The services at middleton Tyras will be safe for everyone (andy)

Yes
The services at middleton Tyras will be safe for everyone

[kaivalagi]

I think I'm going up with Monsieur TonyK.
Fancy joining the back road bimble?

Yes
The services at middleton Tyras will be safe for everyone
More concerned with the bit in between...but think I've figured out something where we can't go wrong, edited above

[Matt-EUC]

Fancy joining the back road bimble?


It'll be a fecking long way for me. Two/three hours over to you then 8 hours oop north.

Might meet you when/if you join the A1.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[kaivalagi]

I wasn't suggesting meeting at the start, have a look at the route I posted more recently (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=nr7&daddr=Brandon+Rd%2FB1108+to:40+Elm+High+Rd,+Wisbec h+PE14+0DQ,+United+Kingdom+to:B1178+to:B1190+to:A1 58+to:Silver+St%2FB1225+to:Unknown+road+to:A18+to: A15+to:A164+to:A1079+to:B1248+to:Main+St%2FA614+to :B1248+to:Newbiggin%2FB1257+to:B1257+to:A168+to:B6 271+to:Moto+Service+Area+Middleton+Tyas+Ln,+Scotch +Corner+(A1%2FA66),+North+Yorkshire+DL10+6PQ+to:Ba rnard+Castle,+County+Durham+DL12,+UK+to:Stanhope+t o:Allendale+to:Hexham+to:Demesne+Farm+Campsite+and +Bunkhouse,+Bellingham+NE48+2BS&hl=en&ll=53.859007,0.911865&spn=3.868576,10.821533&sll=52.65806,0.697632&sspn=0.497296,1.352692&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFbARIgMdlP0LAA%3BFQBeIwMdrp4CAC nPgO2rIgPYRzFrVQqkNiKzjA%3BFfZFKwMdvVj4_w%3BFXLHKw MdURP8_w%3BFfD_KwMddQP-_w%3BFZiTLAMda3r9_w%3BFWyDMAMdKWP7_w%3BFSOfMQMdZsv 6_w%3BFUy0MQMdvaf5_w%3BFdLVMwMdh_H4_w%3BFWE-NQMdyhj5_w%3BFUzSNgMdq__3_w%3BFXpkNwMdWeH3_w%3BFVN SOAMdO-L2_w%3BFUkXOgMdxcPz_w%3BFZ62OgMdkyTx_w%3BFT0BPAMd2 znr_w%3BFTqSPQMd1njo_w%3BFTfBPgMdGo_m_yGvc3rRlnt7T imXNt5VlJ9-SDGvc3rRlnt7Tg%3BFYRLQAMdY6Xi_ykxgk2ZXyN8SDGCQ2aqo jXioA%3BFRRpQwMdWk_h_yn1igN9FTN8SDG0A6LQPzJOsQ%3BF S9RRQMdu7vd_ykxkCR66rB9SDGiW0EhPI_Xzw%3BFfnQRgMdcM Xf_ykVmDENYpB9SDEEwA0heCs6qA%3BFfJtSQMdXp_d_yFPr4a r58qzNimxvmdco5V9SDFPr4ar58qzNg&t=h&mra=mivtw&z=7), see if there is somewhere to meet on the way up, worst case we could meet at A1/A66 services but that's a long way up!

[Matt-EUC]

Not fussed. Will organise a time when I have conferred with mr K and looked at le map.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[Matt-EUC]

Could possibly meet at "D"

[NTECUK]

ok what time at D???

[Matt-EUC]

Will have to talk to the TV guys.


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[Matt-EUC]

About 3.5 hours after we leave :D


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

Were looking to leave D at midday

[Matt-EUC]

Secluded or scheduled? :p


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[NTECUK]

Secluded or scheduled? :p


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.
hardy fn har:smt076

[Matt-EUC]

Sorry :/


Sent via the medium of interpretative dance.

[Bibio]

Kaiv, taking the road from Barnard Castle to Hexham that late in your journey is not a good idea. you will be tired/fatigued and those roads are not for the faint hearted at the best of times. my advice would be to take the A68 and take it easy.

my experience with long journeys (i do 300+ every sunday on small twisty roads) is that the closer you get to your end destination the more you want to push on and this is where mistakes happen. however if your a seasoned long journey rider then bash on :-)

[suzukigt380paul]

maybe not the best route but the one that google maps throws up for me in ipswich is A14 & A1M,and even with the current road conditions its showing,rightly or not 5 hours 16min plus stops,and 320 miles for me from ipswich,in theory if i leave mine at 7am i could be at Demesne Farm Campsite by 1pm,dont really want to be in the seat till late evening,but apart from being very boring the A1/M cant be that bad on a bike,can it!!!

[kaivalagi]

Fair enough Paul, just throwing options out there...we stick with the more direct route via the A1, filter through some traffic, and have a moderately tywisties bit that weas posted before, maps link (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=NR7&daddr=Downham+Rd%2FA1122+to:Elm+High+Rd%2FA1101+to :52.9449936,-0.423375+to:Unknown+road+to:Unknown+road+to:54.606 4967,-1.6794324+to:54.7486863,-2.0101728+to:54.8964334,-2.2599339+to:B6305+to:Bellingham,+UK&hl=en&ll=53.891391,-0.98877&spn=3.865584,10.821533&sll=52.646396,0.409927&sspn=0.248715,0.676346&geocode=FfAqIwMdYX0UACkTolx8M-LZRzFi_nxbvCSuGw%3BFRK4IgMdhmIGAA%3BFU9gIwMd9p0CAA %3BFWHgJwMdMYr5_yl1cl6P6T14SDHvDqSGv09whA%3BFd-cLAMd_PHx_w%3BFRPAPgMdw5Dm_w%3BFc8mQQMdiXjm_ykNf1B zzIJ-SDEJEi51gl33lw%3BFZFlQwMdVFXh_ykz1xNwPjN8SDFtzdpEW W56rg%3BFTGnRQMdrYXd_ykJeUGLJ7d9SDGENiKNBkhvzg%3BF XxtRgMd5wDe_ynFZf2b07l9SDH76FVIZETpDw%3BFTR1SQMdtJ rd_ymhWdrCvJV9SDHArbQLCSQDPQ&oq=NR7&t=h&mra=mivtw&via=3&z=7)

So it's meet at Morrisons Wisbech (Point C) for 10am with a 10:30 departure, and we'll be at point D McD's for midday for others to meet up if they want to, leaving there at 12:30ish

Final offer :)

[andrewsmith]

Kaiv, taking the road from Barnard Castle to Hexham that late in your journey is not a good idea. you will be tired/fatigued and those roads are not for the faint hearted at the best of times. my advice would be to take the A68 and take it easy.

my experience with long journeys (i do 300+ every sunday on small twisty roads) is that the closer you get to your end destination the more you want to push on and this is where mistakes happen. however if your a seasoned long journey rider then bash on :-)

Fair point!

written with a biro

[NTECUK]

Ok that's settled. We're stick with this who has got the widest bike in the front.
The KTM might be the tool of choice for the small gaps?

[kaivalagi]

Ok that's settled. We're stick with this who has got the widest bike in the front.
The KTM might be the tool of choice for the small gaps?

That's what I'm thinking, although if I bring the KTM I would likely put the panniers on so it would still be the wisest....the Rocket can filter, it's still all about the width of the handlebars which makes it easier than the KTM with panniers wider than the bars, as I've found out before now :)

I'm gonna ring the insurers in the next few days to find out how much they want to sting me for putting more annual mileage on my policy....as I have no means to barter I would imagine they'll try and put their commission back onto the damn thing again....we'll see. Next time around I'll put more mileage on the damn thing and take a smaller hit upfront!

[kaivalagi]

My experience with long journeys (i do 300+ every sunday on small twisty roads) is that the closer you get to your end destination the more you want to push on and this is where mistakes happen. however if your a seasoned long journey rider then bash on :-)

I'll happily do 300 miles in a day for fun but these are mostly roads I've been on before, I've never done 350 miles on back roads only that I have no idea about...I will no doubt get my fill of back roads from the AR route and from going home via Manchester and the Peak District...not back to work until the Wednesday so I figure taking a scenic route home via family :)

@Matt, take a look at the latest map (post 83 above (http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2961599&postcount=83)), point D for midday, but it's nearer Sheffield at a McD's

[NTECUK]

Panniers. Your bringing what!!!
Hair dryer. Hair straighteners,Evening suite lol

[Bibio]

i'm more of a 'bike... wallet... lets go...' kinda guy.

[NTECUK]

Admit I have my gear going via 4 wheels. But I guess I could still pack light as we did it in the 80's.

[kaivalagi]

Panniers. Your bringing what!!!
Hair dryer. Hair straighteners,Evening suite lol

We'll see, it could always be the 20l kreiger and a rucksack if not enough space....would help with filtering :)

[andrewsmith]

We'll see, it could always be the 20l kreiger and a rucksack if not enough space....would help with filtering :)

I'm using panniers but I've got a tent to carry but can filter with them on

written with a biro

[kaivalagi]

I can filter with them on, just might take out a mirror like before :)....have you seen how wide an smt is with panniers...they about the same as the adventure, big aluminium things...

I could always strap on the dry bag on the rack :)

[andrewsmith]

Yes orose's is silly!
Richies BMW is even worse

written with a biro

[kaivalagi]

Forgot Orose has an SM-T too, I assume he's at the MAG do in Helmsley when the AR is on then?

[andrewsmith]

Forgot Orose has an SM-T too, I assume he's at the MAG do in Helmsley when the AR is on then?

yep

Attendance mandatory

[NTECUK]

I put my Oxfords on the 675. It's quite shocking how fat it makes its ass.
Gone through my key elements
My "sticky string " feels Ok but I might get some new ones and the gas has been used for inflation of push bikes. So new is needed. Hopefully halfords sell it.

[andrewsmith]

I put my Oxfords on the 675. It's quite shocking how fat it makes its ass.
Gone through my key elements
My "sticky string " feels Ok but I might get some new ones and the gas has been used for inflation of push bikes. So new is needed. Hopefully halfords sell it.

They should

written with a biro

[dizzyblonde]

Are you lot bringing the kitchen sink or something?

[Bibio]

i think they plan to build their own 'parlour' when they get there.