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hongman
22-05-14, 05:31 AM
Just before Xmas last year someone got pulled for something stupid they were doing.
The police issued a fine, and also told this person to produce documents at the station.
For reasons unknown this person had just realised they did neither.
It's been about 6 months now and nothing.
Has this person really got away with it, or what?
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Did they give their correct details at the time? Would have thought if they did then the coppers would have issued a NIP along with a declaration of who the driver was. Which if they were it has to be issued within 14 days of the offence.
Sadly they may have issued it and it's gotten lost in the post, if they did and can prove it was within 14 days of the offence then no, you ain't got away with it.
After the 14 days the deadline is for court proceedings to be issued within 6 months.
Let's hope you did though!
Littlepeahead
22-05-14, 07:15 AM
Did said person move house in the last six months and did they inform the DVLA of their move?
hongman
22-05-14, 07:58 AM
All correct details given, and yes said person did move house but DVLA was informed.
100% no letters landed!
All correct details given, and yes said person did move house but DVLA was informed.
100% no letters landed!
I'd feel a sense of relief if it was me :)
timwilky
22-05-14, 08:12 AM
When I was a learner driver in the 70s, I got a producer, so did my mate in the passenger seat. He tore his up. As a result he got a £25 fine.
In the 80s, I got a producer and couldn't find my licence. Presented MOT and insurance. Summons arrived fro Leigh magistrates court stating on further investigation it was established Mr Wilkinson did hold a full licence for the class of vehicle he was driving". Still fined for failure to produce.
I have in the past waited over 5 months to get a letter that no further action is to be taken against me. They like to make you sweat the full 6 months.
No NIP needed as the person was reported at the time for the offence.
They have 6 months to start a prosecution. Your friend would get either a summons in the post or an offer to accept guilt and be given a fine outside of the court.
MisterTommyH
22-05-14, 06:45 PM
No NIP needed
This.
An NIP is only needed to make you aware that you might be prosecuted if, for some reason, you didn't know there was any action ongoing (i.e. caught by a Gatso).
If stopped by a real life occifer then you consider yourself under investigation.
They have 6 months to start a prosecution.
and this
It's been about 6 months now and nothing.
:cheers:
hongman
27-05-14, 12:40 PM
I'll leave it another 4 weeks and then assume I somehow escaped the system :p
Thanks for all the advice
maviczap
27-05-14, 04:18 PM
I'll leave it another 4 weeks and then assume I somehow escaped the system :p
Thanks for all the advice
May as well come quietly Hong
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hongman
27-05-14, 06:05 PM
It's not me it's a FRIEND!
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is this one of your imaginary friends again Hong. keep taking the pills m8 :-)
maviczap
27-05-14, 06:33 PM
It's not me it's a FRIEND!
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That's what they all say & I'm the King of England.:queen:
Pull the other one Son:D
carelesschucca
27-05-14, 06:44 PM
I'll leave it another 4 weeks and then assume I somehow escaped the system :p
It's not me it's a FRIEND!
Schizophrenia, at least you're never alone Hong...
hongman
27-05-14, 06:56 PM
Um Um Errrrr...
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carelesschucca
27-05-14, 06:58 PM
C'mon one of you give a decent response.
hongman
27-05-14, 06:59 PM
My friend says no comment but I told him its too late!
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maviczap
27-05-14, 07:39 PM
Bang to rights I think :D
Red Herring
31-05-14, 08:16 AM
It would very much depend on what the ticket was for and who issued it.
Producers are very rarely issued these days because all the information is available on-line. The exception is when it is an endorsable ticket and you didn't have your licence with you to surrender, so you need to take it to the station in order to comply with the conditions of the ticket. These tickets are very rarely overlooked, if it was a ticket with points then the most likely explanation is the officer lost or mislaid their part of the ticket (does happen, more often than it should....)and it never got entered into the system.
If it was a cheap ticket for something minor then it is possible the officer didn't do it properly (I would be questioning their competence if they were also issuing a producer in those circumstances) in which case they may well have elected to "lose" their part when they realized their mistake. It may also be that the ticket office simply decided not to pursue it when they reviewed the "evidence" but they are efficient buggers and they normally write to the driver to either chase up the production or to give you the good news.
My money is on the officer losing their part, either way I wouldn't recommend contacting the local ticket office and asking.......
hongman
01-06-14, 02:25 AM
Thanks RH.
I remember complaining to myself becuase when they asked for my documents I had both parts of my license with me, and they checked via radio I had mot and tax. Knowing everything was OK there I wondered what the point of giving me a producer was!
I was astonished at how much information they had on me on their in car computer as well!
Iv been pulled over since then and nothing was mentioned when my license was checked, so I'll just thank my stars I seemed to have caught a break in this occasion for whatever reason.
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