Pointy - Wrist ache when riding pillion

[Corny Gizmo]

Morning Org,

I have had my new SV for 2 months or so now, the issue is when the other half is on the back I get terrible wrist ache (Right Wrist)

I also find myself bracing the bars with my palms when breaking, this also causes pain.

These issues are not found when riding solo, is there anything I can do, change, stop doing etc to make it better? we have a 600 mile ride at the end on June and im dreading it to be honest.

[NTECUK]

Get some sort of grab rail for the pillion
Alternatively brake hard, then accelerate hard. Wait for the thud.
Continue and ring A+E at the end of the ride ;)

[Purity14]

The pillion is leaning on you.

Get the pillion to sit on their seat, maybe get an anti slip mat for her ****.
Then get one of them belts with handles on, and get her to hold onto that, and lean back away from you.

[Corny Gizmo]

To be fair, she does pile into me when under heavy braking.

And after re-reading my original post it seems clear that she is causing the problems.

Thanks people

[dkid]

The pillion is leaning on you.
get an anti slip mat for her ****.
Then get one of them belts with handles on, and get her to hold onto that, and lean back away from you.


+1. Anti slip pillion covers, search for triboseat. Oxford do the love handles. I use both for the wife and she swears by them.



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[dkid]

Here you go http://www.triboseat.com/

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&productId=888471&categoryId=165547&langId=-1


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[Bibio]

something else to consider is how you are sitting. keep your elbows bent al all times as doing so relives the pressure on your wrists. the more you sit up the more your arms straighten out and the more weight you transfer onto your wrists.

[Corny Gizmo]

Cheers for the link dkid!

Bibio - I think you have a point there as when I notice the ache setting in, the first thing I do is bend my elbows, I dont know why I change my riding position when she gets on though, its subconscious as I say because it doesnt hurt when solo

[Corny Gizmo]

Just ordered the Triboseat, see how that goes, then ill buy handles if necessary.

thanks for the help guys

[Jayneflakes]

Change your rear shock preload so that the bike handling is not affected by it squatting down so hard, get her to sit upright with out slumping onto you and change your riding style so that you do not have to brake so hard. Your other option, get her a bike of her own. :D

[NTECUK]

Wait till she falls asleep.
Then your find out what fun long trips with a pillion are all about.

[Corny Gizmo]

Haha Jayne, I'm trying to get her on her own bike, iv already got the preload set to 6 out of 7. I do try and ride smoother :)

[Corny Gizmo]

Haha not looking forward to that ntec!

[NTECUK]

Party my fult for looping the lock and chain round me so she could comfortabley hold on.
I din't notice until we took the slip road of the A12 and slowed down.

[Jayneflakes]

I have fallen asleep as a pillion, but never on the SV. The bike I fell asleep on was an old CB250 Superdream... Now you know why I fell asleep!:smt042

Pillion on my SV though is a magical experience because the wife can make it handle in ways I never reach and also if I sit just right, magic happens. \\:D/

With the preload, the idea is to compress the spring a little more so that the extra weight does not make the back end squat, however on the SV this so basic as to be crude and may not even make that much difference. The shock on my bike is so hard that it takes me and a load of shopping before the back feel compliant. With out the preload, as soon as I sit on it, it squats like an incontinent Granny in Tesco! :rolleyes:

[Sweetthy]

+1 for the triboseat!! Since we got it the ride with the wife is so much more comfortable!

[Sid Squid]

Ride gently. Brake gently, earlier. Use a greater proportion of rear brake to keep the bike flatter and cause less front dive. Ensure your passenger understands that pillioning on a bike is not passive like being a passenger in a car - they're not ever going to ride for you, but a bit of anticipation goes a very, very long way. There should be no need for your passenger to hold super tight, you should be riding so as to make their journey as easy as possible. Some pillions find putting a hand on the back of the tank when braking is more comfortable than the grab rail. As a rider you should not be leaning heavily on your hands, the bars are a control not a grab rail. The cutouts on the tank are for your legs, even a gentle squeeze of the tank relieves the pressure on your hands enormously.

[Nobbylad]

Bit late now you've ordered one....http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=208182&highlight=tribo+seat

[Jason H]

As Sid has said, she can also place a hand on the back of the tank under braking that may have her moving her weight in to you. This does require her to anticipate what you are going to do. Squeezing the tank with your kness does also make a huge difference.

Ensuring you are in shape can help on the bike generally as well (not just 2 up), focus on your core muscles (abs and lower back) and quads.

Really pillions shouldn't have to hold on they ought to be able to hold themselves with a combination of thier thighs/knees, core muscles and feet on the pegs. Only under spirited riding (increased lean angles, heavier acceleration and braking) should they possibly need to hold on (this does take time and practice at riding pillion though).

J

[Corny Gizmo]

Brilliant advice here guys I should definitely put it into practice. I do change my riding style dramatically when she's on it, the rear brake causes a lot less jolt too as Sid pointed out. I just feel that maybe because of the combined weight of us maybe the bike sits too low thus altering my riding position too much. Iv tried 7/7 on the preload and the bike felt really springy and she didn't like it. Would longer dog bones help to raise it and keep it there or do I need a stiffer spring?

[Corny Gizmo]

Cheers nobbylad, it was only £14 so not a massive kick in the teeth

[SUPERSTARDJ01]

Here you go http://www.triboseat.com/

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&productId=888471&categoryId=165547&langId=-1


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Tribor seats are excellent so are the love handles get her to brase herself on the tank and hold a grab rail with the othe.

[Corny Gizmo]

Wow, got the TriborSeat yesterday, what a difference, no more weight shifting everytime I do anything.

Very happy! thanks guys, now im not dreading the Sunset 2 Sunrise ride :)

who else is going btw?

[dkid]

Glad it's made a difference for you. Happy riding!