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I've just got on my sv650 6 weeks ago - done 2000 miles and I am loving it :smt040. And I've got 1 more month of being an
honorary 33bhp club member! So of course I'll have so much more to learn when I derestrict it. Anyway, I'm dreaming
up what bike I next want and I think I'm going for something a little sportier. I don't like gixxers, don't know what it is
but they just don't do it for me, nor cbrs. Or Ducatis on the whole.
So I feel like it's between the zx6, r6 or Daytona 675. The Daytona is becoming more and more appealing. Love that
it's a little more unique too. Speed triple is also an option, but I would generally rather a faired bike - if I were to choose
it, it would be based down to a test ride. With the speed triple being naked, how much do you feel the wind?
So after all that writing, can anyone give any experiences of these bikes, advise or suggestions of other bikes?
Now I know full well I'll only be able to make a properly informed decision by test riding, and I will test ride everything
I can get my hands on but whilst I'm this age no shop will trust me. Plus I don't want to be riding something so much
faster than my currently restricted bike. So this is all a bit of fun.
Only the 2013 daytona
It's that much better? Have you ridden it?
Had it for over a year 10,000 miles non R.
It goes were you point it. Stops on a 5p.
Has a very smooth strong engine.
Real roads fast enough
And how does 3 cylinder compare to 4? Do you feel like you're screaming about on it everywhere? Also, what else have you ridden, and how do they compare?
carelesschucca
19-07-14, 08:30 AM
the 675 triple engine is a thing of beauty. It's got more low down grunt than a 600 4 pot, its smooth right through the rev range and will rev out nicely its got plenty of power for the real world for me its perfect for a road bike.
But you're about to get a new bike when the SV gets full power. I think people are far to desperate to get off the SV and onto something bigger. it took me four years to decided that ragging the life out of the SV wasn't enough and I wanted more. The SV is a great wee bike (once you've got the suspension sorted) stick with it love it cherish it. I wish I'd had the money to keep mine but hey ho.
I'v had a few bikes as I started off at 16 with a FS1E.
Had a lay off bikes for 10 years. Got back into it with a SV.
Cracking bike,budget suspension was switched for cheap second hand shock, new springs and oil up front. Its brakes were already sorted.
Then the RSVR (gen 2).
That's a bit of a animal didn't like slow town work. etc. But enjoyable just because of what it is.
Then as my joints are at 50+ giving me a hard time went for a lighter easy to use option.
Thing is I'm faster on this than the aprillia as it's so easy to use.
But get expert on the SV. Sort the chassis and your have a ball. Full power a properly ridden SV round the lanes will keep with any IL4 600.
But the 675's, all you read about them is praise and I'm very happy with it.
But you're about to get a new bike when the SV gets full power. I think people are far to desperate to get off the SV and onto something bigger. it took me four years to decided that ragging the life out of the SV wasn't enough and I wanted more. The SV is a great wee bike (once you've got the suspension sorted) stick with it love it cherish it. I wish I'd had the money to keep mine but hey ho.
I know it'll be a totally different ride, more than doubling the power! I'm not in any rush to get a bigger bike, I've
got an awful lot to learn on my SV even with it being restricted - (since it can still go just as fast through any corner
as any other stock SV, unless its a 100+ bend :rolleyes: )
That being said, I will of course derestrict it as soon as it's legal. And then I may look into upgrading suspension
and brakes, but I'll see - I'm nowhere near to pushing the bike to it's limits.
Nonetheless, I'm just window shopping for a life of riding bikes ahead of me :D
Taken a fancy to the RC8. It's kind of ugly, but it's grown on me so much, and a v-twin that big is bound to be fun.
Reviews seem very positive on it.
Although this is many many years away before I'd be able to come close to being able to use so much power. And
even still, I don't think there are many people who could. From what a lot of people on here say, most people don't
reach the limit on the SV. Besides all of that, I gather riding a bike with ABS and every other modcon you can think
of detracts from the fun? Having never experienced it, just going off what I read.
I'v had a few bikes as I started off at 16 with a FS1E.
Had a lay off bikes for 10 years. Got back into it with a SV.
Cracking bike,budget suspension was switched for cheap second hand shock, new springs and oil up front. Its brakes were already sorted.
Then the RSVR (gen 2).
That's a bit of a animal didn't like slow town work. etc. But enjoyable just because of what it is.
Then as my joints are at 50+ giving me a hard time went for a lighter easy to use option.
Thing is I'm faster on this than the aprillia as it's so easy to use.
But get expert on the SV. Sort the chassis and your have a ball. Full power a properly ridden SV round the lanes will keep with any IL4 600.
But the 675's, all you read about them is praise and I'm very happy with it.
What upgrade do you think most improved the SV?
I might be able to squeeze my wallet enough to make money for 1 upgrade this season, just depends how much
difference it makes.
The Daytona is becoming more and more attractive..
Maybe the the easiest thing is just service the front forks.
People neglected them if we're honest.
Font feel is the biggest confidence booster and will be a easy job.
I'd say the springs are the easy to get right for your weight. It's going to show up the back end. But you can source quite a few shocks of the bay that will make a difference.
Brakes I put HH pads by ebc.
They were powerful and progressive.
Above all ride it look after it and ride
carelesschucca
19-07-14, 03:08 PM
What upgrade do you think most improved the SV?
I might be able to squeeze my wallet enough to make money for 1 upgrade this season, just depends how much
difference it makes.
The Daytona is becoming more and more attractive..
Suspension upgrades transform the SV, front forks as has been said is a great start and fairly cheap, then if you want have a look at the back end, in reality you don't need more power but it is nice. After the suspension the best thing I did to the bike was change the gearing by putting a bigger back sprocket on the bike. An end can does make the bike sound nice but it doesn't really do much. TBH the best upgrade you can make to any bike is improve the rider, and at the moment I'm needing a fair bit of improvement.
throw some cash at an SV650 and it turns the bike into something that i personally think is a keeper. my bike is a lot more capable than i am and i'm fairly capable of throwing it about. i think all in all i spent £500 over the price of the bike once i sold off all the other stuff like the front end etc.etc. but i now have a bike that is capable of munching miles with ease. the extra £500 was including a custom built Nitron Sport shock and cosmetics like powder coating.
depending on the rider the only time you loose out is on the straights against SS bikes. get onto the small single lane twisty back roads and the bike comes into its own with that lovely V-Twin engine.
yes there are much better bikes out there and if your young then explore the options as life is to short.
davepreston
19-07-14, 04:30 PM
buy a triumph
see here
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=211906
Got a street and it's unreal. Get a trumpet :) don't listen to dp ;)
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Suspension upgrades transform the SV, front forks as has been said is a great start and fairly cheap, then if you want have a look at the back end, in reality you don't need more power but it is nice. After the suspension the best thing I did to the bike was change the gearing by putting a bigger back sprocket on the bike. An end can does make the bike sound nice but it doesn't really do much. TBH the best upgrade you can make to any bike is improve the rider, and at the moment I'm needing a fair bit of improvement.
Suspension it is then. The last owner put on a blueflame exhaust, sounds brilliant. So I don't need to make an excuse to fund a new exhaust :D
But as you say, I've got a long long way ahead with my own skill. Every time I improve in something, I find another big flaw which needs working on. I couldn't work out why my lefthanders were messy, but now I've realised I'm not putting my body into the turn and end up leaning my body right, bringing the bike out of the turn. How daft. I'm getting there.
yes there are much better bikes out there and if your young then explore the options as life is to short.
Just 20 years old, I've got lots of time with lots of motorbikes ahead of me :smt112
So this is just some forward planning, mapping out my next bikes!
Don't get me wrong though, I'm in no hurry to lose the SV - I completely love it.
buy a triumph
see here
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=211906
I guess you've had some bad luck!! What was it like to ride - a street triple I presume?
Got a street and it's unreal. Get a trumpet :) don't listen to dp ;)
Does the wind not become an issue?
I'm very approving of the British manufacturer too..
Phoenix22
19-07-14, 09:36 PM
Get a ZRX 1100 or 1200. Proper man's bike that will easily hold it's own with pretty much anything out there if your balls are big enough!!! Plenty of character too that only a big Kwak can give. A genuine 130 RWBHP is easily achievable with plenty more to come, depends how deep your pocket is!!
Just a thought. Look for a local bike safe course. Will point you in the right direction.
Just a thought. Look for a local bike safe course. Will point you in the right direction.
Theres a couple I've got my eye on back in Norfolk, will be doing them towards the end of August when I've got my bike derestricted :D
Citizen
20-07-14, 02:23 PM
Don`t under estimate the SV, I ride with a ZX9R rider who fair enough leaves me in his power band on a straight but otherwise Im always in his rearview mirror.
I`d say keep it, use it to hone your skills and in the meantime save for the next bike.
I do also like the Daytonas, look really smart.
otaylor38
23-07-14, 01:50 PM
Yeah. The sv is a good bike. Enough power for the twisty roads etc etc
Wish Id sorted the suspension on mine though. Those front forks can be quite off putting in a bend if you hit a bump i found.
Its only since iv got the vfr that iv realised just how bad the sv suspension was, if you know what i mean.
Bobbydigital36
23-07-14, 04:17 PM
Another vote for a 675 here.
I found my STR does everything better than my SV, apart from engine braking and yes they are double the price but I found the SV felt extremely heavy, sluggish and outdated when I rode the Street Triple R.
For value the SV seems unbeatable in standard trim but once you start making it more refined it starts to creep up in to some serious amounts. Seems like a fine balance between upgrading the SV to spec you desire and spending enough money on the SV where you could have bought something better.
Another vote for a 675 here.
I found my STR does everything better than my SV, apart from engine braking and yes they are double the price but I found the SV felt extremely heavy, sluggish and outdated when I rode the Street Triple R.
For value the SV seems unbeatable in standard trim but once you start making it more refined it starts to creep up in to some serious amounts. Seems like a fine balance between upgrading the SV to spec you desire and spending enough money on the SV where you could have bought something better.
The price of the SV, and the fact it was a v twin (I need to have a 33bhp restrictor for just one more month! And v twins take restriction very well) was basically the reason I got it. Then I realised there's such a huge love for them, and I see why! Absolutely loving my SV. Just been through snakes pass, utterly amazing.
So I think I'll keep it stock, find the bike's limits - which will be a long time from now, then think about upgrading.
Has anyone ridden the street triple and the daytona? Differences?
I have the street r and it's miles better imo. Not hard to see why though.
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andrewsmith
27-07-14, 07:20 AM
There is nothing wrong with the SV. Yes it loses out on the straights, but I'll keep up through the bends at a rate of knots.
written with a biro
There is nothing wrong with the SV. Yes it loses out on the straights, but I'll keep up through the bends at a rate of knots.
written with a biro
Never said there was, I love my bike and still have loads to learn. Just a bit of fun looking at bikes when I do change!
suzukigt380paul
28-07-14, 06:04 PM
I've just got on my sv650 6 weeks ago - done 2000 miles and I am loving it :smt040. And I've got 1 more month of being an
honorary 33bhp club member! So of course I'll have so much more to learn when I derestrict it. Anyway, I'm dreaming
up what bike I next want and I think I'm going for something a little sportier. I don't like gixxers, don't know what it is
but they just don't do it for me, nor cbrs. Or Ducatis on the whole.
So I feel like it's between the zx6, r6 or Daytona 675. The Daytona is becoming more and more appealing. Love that
it's a little more unique too. Speed triple is also an option, but I would generally rather a faired bike - if I were to choose
it, it would be based down to a test ride. With the speed triple being naked, how much do you feel the wind?
So after all that writing, can anyone give any experiences of these bikes, advise or suggestions of other bikes?
Now I know full well I'll only be able to make a properly informed decision by test riding, and I will test ride everything
I can get my hands on but whilst I'm this age no shop will trust me. Plus I don't want to be riding something so much
faster than my currently restricted bike. So this is all a bit of fun.as to feeling the wind on a speed triple or any naked for that matter!,at legal speeds there isnt realy that much differance,but any faster then it becmes a real pain with out a fairing
suzukigt380paul
28-07-14, 06:13 PM
And how does 3 cylinder compare to 4? Do you feel like you're screaming about on it everywhere? Also, what else have you ridden, and how do they compare?if you compare the 1050 speed triple/sprint engine to a il4 engine,then there isnt really that much differance,and as ive said before the only thing wrong with the 1050 engine is that it one cylinder short of being a good engine,and just as boring as a il4 engine,the 675 may well be a different story,but have never been on one
My zx6r is a different world to the 675, Ok there's years tween them but for a fuel injection bike the 13 daytona is smooth and sweet.
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