View Full Version : Bernie Ecclestone Bribes Bavaria!
Luckypants
05-08-14, 09:30 AM
Apparently you can bribe a country to drop a prosecution for bribery against you...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/ecclestones-100m-getoutofjail-card-9648030.html
Now €100m is gonna smart, even for Ecclestone but buying your way out of trouble appears to be always an option for the rich.
I especially like his suggestion they should use the money to build an F1 circuit.
But yes, this seems like a fantastic bit of law.
Jambo
Biker Biggles
05-08-14, 10:45 AM
Apparently you can bribe a country to drop a prosecution for bribery against you...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/ecclestones-100m-getoutofjail-card-9648030.html
Now €100m is gonna smart, even for Ecclestone but buying your way out of trouble appears to be always an option for the rich.
The cynic in me says,"Stay cynical,you were right":twisted:
Sid Squid
05-08-14, 10:55 AM
What an irony - you give a nice big wodge of cash, to get you off having given someone a nice big wodge of cash.
...but buying your way out of trouble appears to be always an option for the rich.
It's all part of the appeal of being rich. That's why we all want to be rich. If it was the same as being poor, no-one would bother :smt064
maviczap
05-08-14, 11:49 AM
One rule for the rich, one for the poor.
Isn't this the way Al Capone operated?
Plus he'll make money out of any track he builds in Germany.
He is a modern day gangster.
Spank86
05-08-14, 12:15 PM
I wonder if that works for other offences?
Tried for murder? Kill the judge!
nice to have the cash. i see nothing wrong with it and look at it like an out of court settlement just like insurance companies do.
much like the phone hacking with murdoch's cronies its not right but the victims get a resolution ( not sure if the victims of the f1 case are clear cut)
Got to look at it from the same perspective as instead of points and a fine people get speed awareness courses if it's not that naughty
Nutsinatin
05-08-14, 05:03 PM
What would his punishment have been if convicted? £60m might well be bigger than any fine they could have levied against him and saved themselves court costs/prison costs?
Luckypants
05-08-14, 05:08 PM
He could get up to 10 years in prison if found guilty.
It just seemed most ironic to me that prosecution for making an illegal payment could be got out of by making a legal payment. Smoothing the way with money can be both illegal and legal, depending who the recipient is :smt040
littleoldman2
05-08-14, 06:12 PM
I just love the last line in this link http://www.thelawyer.com/analysis/opinion/bernie-ecclestone-the-bribery-case-and-the-60m-settlement/3024144.article?
These people are not from our world:rolleyes:.
MisterTommyH
05-08-14, 06:41 PM
Got to look at it from the same perspective as instead of points and a fine people get speed awareness courses if it's not that naughty
Haven't got to look at it that way at all. By accepting a fixed penalty or a speed awareness you are admitting the offence. By paying the court in this way the defendant avoids being judged either guilty or not guilty. No criminal record and he only gets to do it cos he's got money. A fine should be equal to all (proportionally not talking about fixed penalties).
What would his punishment have been if convicted? £60m might well be bigger than any fine they could have levied against him and saved themselves court costs/prison costs?
But that's because he doesn't mind paying that money if he avoids the nick. If it's not available to all it shouldn't be available to the rich.
But that's because he doesn't mind paying that money if he avoids the nick. If it's not available to all it shouldn't be available to the rich.
It is available to all, as said above it is part of German Law. So long as the parties agree a settlement amount that's it.
MisterTommyH
05-08-14, 07:02 PM
So if the guy who he paid hands over an equivalent proportion of his nett worth would they accept that? Or was the settlement arrived at because he has shiz loads of money? If the latter then it's not available to everyone at all. The appearance of equality is not equality.
Edit: Incidentally I understand the bloke he paid is actually in nick, although I only got that from another .orger.
Sid Squid
05-08-14, 07:08 PM
If you were able to make the problem disappear by paying a "settlement" wouldn't you do the same? I can't see what Bernie's doing that should be criticised, the German legal system I see rather differently.
Them again, if convicted the German state would be spending taxpayers money on keeping Bernie in jug, charge him 60 mil and essentially everyone is better off, no?
One rule for the rich? Only rich people can buy Maseratis - how elitist! I have a right to a Quattroporte bruvver. Come the revolution we'll all have, well, errr nothing - which is the only way to ensure we're all "equal".
The Idle Biker
05-08-14, 10:46 PM
Ecclestone buys himself out of a bribery case. Is that a classic or what? Sepp Blater must be winking his corrupt **** off in admiration at this.
dizzyblonde
06-08-14, 09:54 AM
One rule for the rich, one for the poor.
He is a modern day gangster.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmX2VzsB25s
Hold on he's innocent http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/28671472
He got off because the chief witness changed his story and said that the the quid pro quo was never explicitly stated. That blew a hole in the prosecution's case and they were happy to settle.
The only question that remains is; how big a bribe did Bernie give to get the guy to change his story.
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