Parking ticket!! Help

[Flameboy]

Hi Guys, Today I parked up in Hinckley and when I returned I found a lovely parking ticket stuck to the seat of my bike... I'll be honest I do generally park wherever I can put my bike but do I have any rights to appeal this ticket?

The ticket is for being "parked or loading/unloading in a restricted street where waiting and loading/unloading restrictions are in force"

It was observed from "11:36am to 11:37am"

As you can see from the pictures I'm not parked on the road but next to some bike stands obviously for push bikes but still.... also their is a pedestrianised zone but this is a good 10 meters down from my bike.

Pleease let me know if you think I have any grounds to appeal cos although I do probably park "illegally" I'd hate the idea of paying the council anything else.. Facts though please if there's an appeal! :twisted:

Thanks guys - Flame :cheers:

[Spank86]

Well the double yellow lines apply on the pavement as well.

You might try appealing based on the fact that you're not on the specifically restricted street so not contravening the exact regulation they've got you down for (making no comment in your appeal about the double yellows) but Technically you're definitely parked illegally.

Appealing is usually worth it since Whenever I've done it they've extended the discount period so I've lost nothing by doing so except the price of a stamp.

[DJ123]

2 things:
1) the pedestrian zone & no vehicles
2) the yellow dashes on the kerbside indicate no parking on the kerb


I have been in this position & failed in the appeal due to point 2.

[Biker Biggles]

You could try claiming the yellow markings were so faded/chipped and in poor condition that you missed them.
Then as you noticed the restriction further along the road you retuned to your vehicle and moved it.You were only there for a minute?
I doubt it will work though

[aesmith]

2) the yellow dashes on the kerbside indicate no parking on the kerb
Those dashes mean "No Loading", there should also be a sign to that effect.

[DJ123]

Those dashes mean "No Loading", there should also be a sign to that effect.

No parking also applies


https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/Transport%20and%20Streets/Parking/street/singleanddouble.aspx


http://www.devon.gov.uk/dft-sign-and-line-leaflet.pdf

[Red Herring]

The road includes the footpath and land adjacent to it forming part of the highway, so you are clearly on it.

Parking restrictions apply to a length of road, and across it's entire width, so you are within the restricted zone.

You can stop on double yellow lines for the purpose of loading/unloading which includes picking up or setting down passengers, however the kerb markings indicate there is also a no loading restriction in place at this location.

Basically mate, you shouldn't have parked there.

[squirrel_hunter]

You could try "I was parked at the bicycle rack, my tax disc says I have a bicycle".

It wont work, but its worth a laugh.

[Spank86]

You could try "I was parked at the bicycle rack, my tax disc says I have a bicycle".

It wont work, but its worth a laugh.

"how can you issue a ticket to a modern art installation?"

[LiquidFlux]

You're legally allowed to park anywhere outside of London on the pavement as long as it's not obstructing pedestrians and you're legally allowed to park on the road parallel to you.

Highway code 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

In your case, the double yellows alone would get you.

[Heorot]

Good to know. I do the same in the centre of Norwich when I need to go to my bank. There is a dedicated bike parking area in the city but it's a 10 minute walk away from the bank. Perhaps I should just accept that I need the exercise.

[aesmith]

Still worth a try at an appeal. You could try asking on this forum to see if they can help you find any loophole ...
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

[Red Herring]

How is it worth an appeal, I can't think of a more blatant bang to rights against him case? All he will achieve is missing the opportunity to pay a reduced early settlement.

[Littlepeahead]

We were looking for parking in Welwyn Garden City today, it appears to have no bike bays, and Stu wanted to park in a very similar spot to this, cycle bay, pedestrianised across the pavement going to the shopping centre with double yellows to reach it. There was already one motorcycle parked there but I stopped him as based on this he'd have been parking illegally. Instead we ended up leaving it near the John Lewis car park in a corner, but annoying that there is just nowhere to park there 'legally' for bikes we could find.

[Spank86]

How is it worth an appeal, I can't think of a more blatant bang to rights against him case? All he will achieve is missing the opportunity to pay a reduced early settlement.
Very rarely.

I've appealed (and lost) every ticket I've ever had and always been offered the early settlement discount on an extension.

I'm still ahead on the money front from savings through not paying.

[Flameboy]

After reading all that has been said I think I'm going to appeal just for the sake of it... It dose state on the back of the ticket that "If you challenge the PCN within 14 days and the challenge is rejected, the enforcement authority will usually re-offer the 14-day discount period" I'm going to go with faded lines & not in the pedestrian area... worth a shot & I'll keep you all updated

[Red Herring]

Best you not show them your photos then as the lines and markings are clearly visible in them. Oh, and the pedestrian area isn't for another 30 yards according to the sign, and even you said they didn't issue you with the ticket for that.

Are you appealing just because you want to waste their time or because you actually believe you were allowed to park there, or do you think we shouldn't have parking restrictions and people should be allowed to park anywhere they like?

[Flameboy]

Best you not show them your photos then as the lines and markings are clearly visible in them. Oh, and the pedestrian area isn't for another 30 yards according to the sign, and even you said they didn't issue you with the ticket for that.

Are you appealing just because you want to waste their time or because you actually believe you were allowed to park there, or do you think we shouldn't have parking restrictions and people should be allowed to park anywhere they like?

I don't generally disagree with parking restrictions, in general motorcyclists can park for free & I've never had a problem chucking my bike wherever I want as out of the way as possible that is. I'd never just block a pavement off or anything like that. I just think It's pedantic to ticket me for parking where I have, Illegally or not.


Whilst a decision is reached, the PCN is frozen. If we believe the Penalty Charge Notice was served correctly, you will once again be given the opportunity to pay at the discounted amount, if the challenge is submitted within 14 days of the PCN being served.

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