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ophic
05-09-14, 02:02 PM
Had a spill on my bike yesterday - plonker pulling out on me. I must have been doing 20mph and I lost it trying to swerve and brake to avoid him.

Anyway, my right hand side R&G crash bung just broke off at the bolt and did nothing to prevent any damage whatsoever. The crash bung itself was barely even damaged.

I'm just a little underwhelmed by this and I thought I'd vent this here.

As you were...

_Stretchie_
05-09-14, 02:14 PM
Sorry to hear it dude.

-Write R&G address on envelope
-Take a pic of the bike
-Take pic of the bung
-Print pic of bike
-Print pic of bung
-Type and print "FU R&G" in biggest font possible to fit on A4
-Fold and insert all print outs into envelope
-Post
-Giggle to self as 'closure' occurs
-Drink beer
-Eat meat


Who loves you baby

ophic
05-09-14, 02:41 PM
I was actually so disappointed I left it at the side of the road. Having conscientiously removed the bolt from the path of oncoming traffic, of course.

I might go find it later... like I said, it was barely damaged.

DanSp
05-09-14, 02:46 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/b46892e2564d956462d31fabe9aea0c3.jpg

I agree they only work in certain circumstances! My off was a bit quicker than 20mph though!


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Bibio
05-09-14, 03:38 PM
TBH i have seen a few fairing being smashed due to having bungs fitted and from what i have seen they only protect the bike if you drop it and even then not by that much as you end up smashing other parts.

i have a set of R&G bungs sitting here that i have been meaning to fit. i have dropped the bike twice at standstill and suffered minimal damage with the OEM brackets fitted.

but there are other people who swear by them.

BBadger
05-09-14, 04:12 PM
I wouldnt fit r&g's if u paid me too. To many story's of them snapping and doing nout.

Custom made is the way forward you can choose materials and lengths you trust.

BBadger
05-09-14, 04:12 PM
I wouldnt fit r&g's if u paid me too. To many story's of them snapping and doing nout.

Custom made is the way forward you can choose materials and lengths you trust.

Plus they cost a fraction of r&G

Geodude
05-09-14, 04:44 PM
Where from BBadger?

BBadger
05-09-14, 04:47 PM
Jabbeebikerbits.Co.uk

I did a little thread on it not to long ago as I kitted out the new bike.I'm on my phone so can't post the link but a quick search should throw it up

Geodude
05-09-14, 04:49 PM
Thanks muchly BB will have a search :)


Edit: Found your thread BBadger heres the link (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=211917) for anyone else interested

ManMango
05-09-14, 05:22 PM
Literally about 30 minutes ago i just ordered a replacement half kit for my also snapped crash bung...

I had my off at about 30-35mph bike slid quite some distance, the bung shaved a bit but not much it also snapped off pretty much straight away.

When emailing their support hoping to get a replacement as there site specifically states ''designed to bend and not snap'' I was told if the bung is in warranty they will replace. If not a replacement half kit if £32+£5 delivery.

They also told me that when they snap it is usually due to over tightening and all their bungs should be tightened to the correct values. Perhaps the case for most people that have them snap? Perhaps not? I don't see how a company could get so popular if there products really are that bad!

missyburd
05-09-14, 05:41 PM
Motosliders all the way for me! (Sorry to hear of your spill :()

Nutsinatin
05-09-14, 05:48 PM
Talk to FG1 - pretty sure exactly the same thing happened to him and it was put down to a warranty issue and he got a load of R&G kit free from them as a result.

ManMango
05-09-14, 05:56 PM
Free stuff! I feel I should have pushed them a bit more even though mine where purchased by previous bike owner about 3 years ago.

I just wanted a replacement bung/bolt for the failed product nothing more than that.

I wouldn't potentially be paying out £300+ on repairs if the bung hadn't snapped. Stuff would still have damaged but maybe only £200 worth of damage instead xd

I felt a little but mugged forking out again for something that MIGHT help next time.

johnnyrod
05-09-14, 06:21 PM
I've also got Motosliders but their range of bikes is limited. They are good and I've bunged it down the road a few times up to about 50mph. They'll be a nightmare to get off some day as the bolts are starting to bend but they're proof that the good ones do work.

missyburd
05-09-14, 08:23 PM
They'll be a nightmare to get off some day as the bolts are starting to bend but they're proof that the good ones do work.
Mine too haha, better that than them breaking off themselves! :D

Sid Squid
06-09-14, 08:46 AM
Generally speaking there are too many variables in the anatomy of a crash to be able to say definitively if a bung has performed well or not.
Some early crash bungs were very strong indeed, staying resolutely in place whatever loads were placed upon them, sounds great - exactly what you want, right?
Wrong - those won't let go and pass all those loads into the frame and bend it, sometimes even snapping the mounts off of the engine.
Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it.

PS. Crash bungs, with some notable exceptions, are mostly crap.

Pricey12
06-09-14, 03:17 PM
I'm no engineer, but the R&G crash bungs for the SV look flawed by design to me. The fact that they bolt on to a bracket surely makes them weaker. On my Ducati Monster the bungs screwed directly into the end of a replacement engine mount bar and not on to a bracket. Never tested them though...

Bibio
06-09-14, 03:22 PM
no. spreading the point of impact reduces the stress. a single focused source can cause more damage then if it were spread out, this is why you have crumple zones in cars.

Pricey12
06-09-14, 03:27 PM
Fair point.

BBadger
07-09-14, 12:28 PM
I don't see how a company could get so popular if there products really are that bad!

I fully agree, but i feel your paying alot for the name on top of the product.

SIII
07-09-14, 06:32 PM
I will still be fitting them. Saves a serious wedge if you drop the bike and are lucky enough to have them there to save it. Dropped my SV after R&G's fitted - not a mark!

Fitted front axle, fairing and paddock bobbin thingy's to the Gixxer. Might work in a crash but will save a lot of money if i drop or have a low speed slide off.

High speed - its fecked anyway - so whats it matter if bungs snap or not ?

Specialone
07-09-14, 06:48 PM
Only good for stationary drops IMO, after that you can forget it.

missyburd
07-09-14, 07:28 PM
Only good for stationary drops IMO, after that you can forget it.
I had a drop picking up speed down a sloped gravel track (half asleep and left choke on) and the motosliders held up very well...just ground down another few ml, no other damage. Oh and a diesel slide at about 10mph which claimed my rev counter but probably would have claimed a lot more besides without the bungs. For a naked bike they're worth their weight in gold I reckon, perhaps far less functional on faired bikes with more stuff to scuff and scrape.

SIII
07-09-14, 07:46 PM
Only good for stationary drops IMO, after that you can forget it.

Worth fitting then :cool:

ophic
07-09-14, 08:35 PM
I had bikesliders fitted originally and in a similar spill, they worked, ground down a bit and didn't really save anything on the bike, but they performed as expected. But they were replaced by R&G sliders because the insurance couldn't source identical ones. It's a bit frustrating that they're more expensive and not as good.

I do remember a split second of sliding down the road thinking "is that my slider?" as it whizzed off across the tarmac.

Mark-SV-UK
07-09-14, 09:33 PM
To be fair its not crash bungs at fault its the rubbish bracket suzuki supply to fit fairing to bike. Its a piece of crap and hollow with no strength at all mine snapped as well. All r&g would say is there product worked its the bracket that failed. I hope you get it sorted mate. I was unlucky the brackets were main reason my bike was writen off as they snapped they inpailed the engine

ophic
07-09-14, 09:40 PM
There's no Suzuki brackets as I don't have lower fairings. These mount on a bracket that spans across two engine bolts, and then a bolt through the slider fixing it to the bracket. This bolt just snapped clean off.

Specialone
07-09-14, 10:28 PM
Worth fitting then :cool:
Don't drop your bike while stationary, or buy a bike with engine bars and no expensive fairing.

Bibio
07-09-14, 10:37 PM
To be fair its not crash bungs at fault its the rubbish bracket suzuki supply to fit fairing to bike. Its a piece of crap and hollow with no strength at all mine snapped as well. All r&g would say is there product worked its the bracket that failed. I hope you get it sorted mate. I was unlucky the brackets were main reason my bike was writen off as they snapped they inpailed the engine

R&G come with a separate bung frame which is a loooot more substantial.

Mark-SV-UK
07-09-14, 10:41 PM
Wish I had known that would still have my sv now :-(