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after the fun in the sun and the coming of winter it's time to think of next years AR and were people would like it to be.
for me i would like to see it being held in Wales as i have never been, second to that North York Moors and third would be The Lakes.
so mighty Orgers where would you like to see it being held this year?
yes i know it's up to the Moderators to make the decision but we can dream and give them a nudge.
i was a bit disappointed with this year as there was only one submission even though it was a cracker. so people get your thinking hats on and give us some competition for next year.
keith_d
09-09-14, 10:26 PM
Personally, I'd quite fancy a trip to the south west. Maybe around dartmoor and bodmin moor. I cycled round there once and it almost killed me. Some of the little lanes around there would be much more fun with 100 horsepower than they were with 0.1 horsepower
Fordward
09-09-14, 10:29 PM
Hartlepool, or Grimsby.
garynortheast
10-09-14, 08:10 AM
Farkin Cha'ham innit...
carelesschucca
10-09-14, 08:24 AM
Anywhere the roads are amazing, a bit of good riding and good banter. Really must make the effort to get there.
Lance, the best way to get what you want in life is do it yourself. Get working :D
On thoughts of AR 14 I'd like to experience the same area again. Maybe along the lines of the TOGMIE thing.
Fancy Wales for 2015 too. Had good reports from the 675 fest, apart from the rain.
Specialone
10-09-14, 10:43 AM
You can't beat wales, it's ace :)
I might even consider going to it, I could lead an off road ride for the dirty gits amongst us :)
SvNewbie
10-09-14, 10:48 AM
Wales would be great, been around the north a few times this year so would be good to see what Central / South Wales has to offer.
West country would also be interesting though unfortunately is pretty far away for the North / Scottish contingent.
Wideboy
10-09-14, 11:20 AM
AR10 was in wales and it was the best AR I've been too.
andrewsmith
10-09-14, 11:33 AM
Anywhere the roads are amazing, a bit of good riding and good banter. Really must make the effort to get there.
Lance, the best way to get what you want in life is do it yourself. Get working :D
So GM2015
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andrewsmith
10-09-14, 11:36 AM
To put as a suggestion, if people are receptive to a longer distance ride (I'm talking 180+ miles) southern Scotland would be doable from the Ar14 site.
The few that did the Sunday route this year will say, the AR ride was just a taster
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carelesschucca
10-09-14, 11:53 AM
Maybe i should put a bid in for AR2015 to be at The Macdonald Hotel, Kinlochleven. Sadly you'd never get it that far north. Above Manchester is too far for some. Can you imagine the carnage there'd be if I lead an AR rideout... YIPPEE!
SvNewbie
10-09-14, 12:07 PM
Maybe i should put a bid in for AR2015 to be at The Macdonald Hotel, Kinlochleven. Sadly you'd never get it that far north. Above Manchester is too far for some. Can you imagine the carnage there'd be if I lead an AR rideout... YIPPEE!
I'd be well up for it, if you can arrange for it to be in one of the 2 weekends a year with decent weather and, of course, if I don't need to renew my passport to get there ;)
Specialone
10-09-14, 12:16 PM
AR10 was in wales and it was the best AR I've been too.
Agreed
i dont think where is the problem i think the lack of spare cash is the problem. the AR and the GM attendance numbers have been falling in recent years. also the lack of new members not knowing what the AR or GM is and dont know if they are entitled to go.
the AR is the Annual Rideout event and the main sv650.org once a year get together and all are welcome to attend.
the GM is the Glencoe Massacre and is held in Scotland and run by the Ecosse members and all are welcome to attend.
you also have other gatherings set up by members like TOGMIE and so on.
every event is organised so EVERY member is welcome to attend.
if your a new member and looking at this thread then i can tell you now that you are entitled to go to the AR, GM or any other organised event on sv650.org and will be most welcome no matter what event. geeezzz you can even organise one of these events if you wish.
Wideboy
10-09-14, 02:03 PM
Maybe i should put a bid in for AR2015 to be at The Macdonald Hotel, Kinlochleven. Sadly you'd never get it that far north. Above Manchester is too far for some. Can you imagine the carnage there'd be if I lead an AR rideout... YIPPEE!
That statement works both ways though ;)
dizzyblonde
10-09-14, 02:58 PM
Wales would do me. I go to an AR ''IF'' it appeals. This year's appealed greatly, I've not been to Northumberland. I couldn't go to the last Welsh one as I was pregnant. All the ones inbetween didn't appeal, so I didn't go.
This rule would apply wether I lived in the north or the south. I really don't care how long I have to ride to get there. As it showed at the GM, I crashed my bike en route, stuck it on a breakdown truck and arrived at Kinlochleven in the car, because the event really did float my boat.
I'll likely be living down south at AR time next year, that doesn't necessarily mean I'll attend an AR in the south on my doorstep.
I would like it to be in the lakes, basically because I like it there. However I used to live in Wales but didn't have a bike at the time so that would appeal as well.
But if I have to do motorway miles heading south might as well do it properly, so, Italy?...
i'll go anywhere apart from densely populated areas, i dont like them as it gives me a sore head. i dont see the point in going for a ride and having to leap frog cars all day.
The journey to the AR can be as much as an event as you want to make it too.
Matt-EUC
11-09-14, 04:29 AM
I'm down for wales. Anywhere the roads are good and the beer is cheap tbh.
andrewsmith
11-09-14, 06:00 AM
The journey to the AR can be as much as an event as you want to make it too.
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Spank86
11-09-14, 12:10 PM
West country would also be interesting though unfortunately is pretty far away for the North / Scottish contingent.
Don't worry about the scots, they wont be allowed in by then anyway :D:p
JamesMio
11-09-14, 12:19 PM
Northern Ireland...?
(releases cat amongst pigeons...)
I'm being half-serious like; it's beautiful, quiet, accessible (*how many folks make it over every May for the NW200?).....
Ferries from Liverpool & Cairnryan are cheap enough if you book them at the right time.
Oh, and they sell proper Guinness too.
andrewsmith
11-09-14, 02:13 PM
Northern Ireland...?
(releases cat amongst pigeons...)
I'm being half-serious like; it's beautiful, quiet, accessible (*how many folks make it over every May for the NW200?).....
Ferries from Liverpool & Cairnryan are cheap enough if you book them at the right time.
Oh, and they sell proper Guinness too.
You organising? ;)
JamesMio
11-09-14, 03:45 PM
Certainly could do... 3 of our guys are over there today anyway in talks with a certain ferry company.
Just saying.
carelesschucca
11-09-14, 04:08 PM
Well there's Mr James Mio put a bid in for AR2015.
Well done James you're a top bloke.
Excellent. I'll get the ferry from Troon. It would be the closest AR to me yet. :)
punyXpress
11-09-14, 08:20 PM
Hey James
Time it the week before or after one of the N.I. races
Two birds, one stone & all that.
Cheers!
littleoldman2
11-09-14, 08:36 PM
Cheers James, what a top man. Looking forward to it:D.
kaivalagi
11-09-14, 08:57 PM
Anywhere there are good roads is good, I did thoroughly enough the AR this year, the routes were ace, especially the Sunday....but I think the GM2015 (which I will make every effort to get to next year) will cover the ace Scottish roads quite nicely based on what I saw from this years posts!
I'm up for Wales, and that's a long way from me, nearly as much as AR14 was, but as I've never really spent much time over there I reckon it would be a good adventure.
I'd also be up for the Lakes, I spent a day there not too long ago and the back roads were insanely undulating and winding, maybe a bit too much for some though? I know they're the most taxing roads I've ridden so far....the ones I found anyway :)
edit: WIfey just reminded me I may be away next year, plans are afoot for a trip to Fiji again, not been since 2012, this will be my backup plan for a summer treat now :(
Matt-EUC
11-09-14, 09:59 PM
Move the date for Fiji.
kaivalagi
11-09-14, 10:44 PM
It'll likely be 4+ weeks during the school summer holidays, not much room to move...if I can do the AR date though I will, too good to miss if doable :)
Red Herring
12-09-14, 08:13 AM
As I suggested on another thread, lets hold it at a circuit somewhere in Wales, book a group trackday on the Saturday, decent roads to ride on the Sunday, and usually ideal locations for loads of people to get together and generally have fun.... We could organize all kinds of other bike related tomfoolery as well, perhaps a gymkhana, a slow riding course....... best doughnut followed by a tyre changing challenge!
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 08:16 AM
Track days never have and never will appeal to me. If an AR was based around one, I wouldn't attend.
I go home on a Sunday as I have children.
carelesschucca
12-09-14, 08:17 AM
As I suggested on another thread, lets hold it at a circuit somewhere in Wales, book a group trackday on the Saturday, decent roads to ride on the Sunday, and usually ideal locations for loads of people to get together and generally have fun.... We could organize all kinds of other bike related tomfoolery as well, perhaps a gymkhana, a slow riding course....... best doughnut followed by a tyre changing challenge!
Anglesey please it looks an amazing track since its been done up. Should be on the BSB calender if you ask me (shame no one does)
Track days never have and never will appeal to me. If an AR was based around one, I wouldn't attend.
I go home on a Sunday as I have children.
You could bring the kids and make a break of it like I did with my lot for AR14
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 10:35 AM
You could bring the kids and make a break of it like I did with my lot for AR14
Personally speaking, I don't agree with taking kids to a weekend of adult nature. In that I mean, people are devoting their time off for a bit of R&R for their own entertainment.
I spend every minute of the day with a very active four year old. I can't wait to have a few hours away from him to myself. I wouldn't wish him upon anyone in a get together such as an AR...regardless of how cute they may think he is, I'm not getting a moments R&R myself. The teenager, well he ain't a problem. But again, why should others who work all week want somebody else's kid hanging about.
That's what we have family time and holidays for, not biking weekends where I want to drink copious amounts of alcohol and just not be mum ;)
Ah I've only got the teenageer to worry about and being a grumpy git don't generally chat with the others on the run after the days events.
Not that your not all lovely people ;)
Red Herring
12-09-14, 02:00 PM
Track days never have and never will appeal to me. If an AR was based around one, I wouldn't attend.
I go home on a Sunday as I have children.
I'm not suggesting it be based around one, the AR is, and always should be, based around a social get together. The idea on the other thread was to have a dedicated group within a trackday so that people who have never ridden around a track before would have the opportunity to do so safe in the knowledge that some twerp on an R1 wouldn't come along and knock them off. The problem with organizing such a thing is getting enough people together to be able to take over an entire group/session from a trackday organizer, hence I suggested it might be possible to combine it with the AR.
That way people who might not be inclined to shell out to travel miles just for a trackday might be tempted if it was linked in with a social event as well. Doing the trackday wouldn't be compulsory, just an option. Anyone else on here old enough to remember the Performance Bike magazine "Frenzy" events at Cadwell Park in the 90's, they were a complete riot!
keith_d
12-09-14, 02:56 PM
An optional track day on the monday after the AR would work for me. Though if it's a long way from home we might want to hire a van to carry petrol cans, paddock stands, etc. And also take back any broken bikes
Littlepeahead
12-09-14, 07:07 PM
I did the Tour de France Yorkshire Dales route on Wednesday, in the sunshine, and Buttertubs Pass put a huge smile on my face and not just because it is the road straight after the free cheese tasting at the Wensleydale dairy. Trouble is it's probably full of tourists on a Saturday. Same as the moors from York to Whitby which we did on Tuesday, when the roads were pretty quiet, the sheep behaved, there weren't many cyclists either.
Wales was a terrific AR, much of that was down to the organisers, who did a great job of finding a venue that suited everyone. Sadly I believe it's now sold.
Matt-EUC
12-09-14, 07:09 PM
I reckon wales looks like the majority favourite.
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 07:09 PM
Some of AR11 was on the Tour de France route
There ain't that many tourists up there. We managed to get around 70 or more motorcycles round it no problem on a Saturday.
I did the Tour de France Yorkshire Dales route on Wednesday, in the sunshine, and Buttertubs Pass put a huge smile on my face and not just because it is the road straight after the free cheese tasting at the Wensleydale dairy. Trouble is it's probably full of tourists on a Saturday. Same as the moors from York to Whitby which we did on Tuesday, when the roads were pretty quiet, the sheep behaved, there weren't many cyclists either.
Wales was a terrific AR, much of that was down to the organisers, who did a great job of finding a venue that suited everyone. Sadly I believe it's now sold.
the Dales is NOTHING compared to the north west coast of Scotland. mile upon mile of empty roads with stunning scenery.
missyburd
12-09-14, 07:19 PM
Ireland or Wales very definitely appeals to me, never been to Ireland and I still haven't had a chance to take the bike to Wales yet (I'll be going next year regardless of AR, tis shocking seeing as I lived there for 3 years!). As someone mentioned earlier the event of riding to and from the chosen venue is all part of it, as has been repeatedly proved with the GMs, you can easily be organised and sort a day or two either side of the weekend to make the most of it.
Littlepeahead
12-09-14, 07:32 PM
the Dales is NOTHING compared to the north west coast of Scotland. mile upon mile of empty roads with stunning scenery.
I don't disagree, I've driven them, in fact while sat in our holiday cottage near York we were planning our 2015 Scotland trip, however, for me it would mean a 2 day ride just to get there, and while I can get time off for that sort of jaunt for a lot of people AR has to be do-able Friday to Sunday due to work and family commitments. This makes somewhere more middle of the country a bit more practical for a one day two night get together.
We are planning another TOGMIE so certainly no bids for an Essex AR.
i liked the venue Dizzy done but would like to see a more 'basic' event.
AR14 was a great venue but the numbers were poor.
i really do like the idea of Wales, but who if anyone will take the challenge is the question.
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 07:45 PM
i liked the venue Dizzy done but would like to see a more 'basic' event.
AR14 was a great venue but the numbers were poor.
i really do like the idea of Wales, but who if anyone will take the challenge is the question.
There is a campsite further towards Ingleton that is log cabin based. Not unlike the ones at the GM. However, I've not investigated them, so no idea of cost etc. Think it's nearer a pub being in the village too.
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 08:02 PM
Scrap that, nowhere near a pub. Cabins very like the bunkhouse at this year's AR.
However, I have seen a pub near there hold small bike rallies.
I loved this year's AR. Should have been more in attendance, as it was near perfect for all requirements.
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 08:12 PM
There is another option. I know a campsite in Lincolnshire that would have us no questions. They get booked fairly quickly though.
And it has a pub at the end of the camping field.
Fruity-ya-ya
12-09-14, 08:20 PM
Scrap that, nowhere near a pub. Cabins very like the bunkhouse at this year's AR.
However, I have seen a pub near there hold small bike rallies.
I loved this year's AR. Should have been more in attendance, as it was near perfect for all requirements.
I would have loved to make ar14 and will make every effort to make ar15 wherever it might be (passports aside).
As long as you lot are there I know I'll enjoy it.
andrewsmith
12-09-14, 08:24 PM
There is another option. I know a campsite in Lincolnshire that would have us no questions. They get booked fairly quickly though.
And it has a pub at the end of the camping field.
:winner:
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 08:28 PM
With pie, made by Tommy Coopers twin :lol:
andrewsmith
12-09-14, 08:32 PM
Oh yes!!
kaivalagi
12-09-14, 09:26 PM
Only around the corner from me for a change too :)
Cadwell park nearby lol :)
Teejayexc
12-09-14, 09:30 PM
There is another option. I know a campsite in Lincolnshire that would have us no questions. They get booked fairly quickly though.
And it has a pub at the end of the camping field.
Not Randywharf by any chance?
dizzyblonde
12-09-14, 09:38 PM
Only around the corner from me for a change too :)
Cadwell park nearby lol :)
You've been there too ;-)
Funnily enough I think the Buell forum stayed at Cadwell during this years charity do. I'm not sure where they've previously stayed, wouldn't be hard to find out.
Not Randywharf by any chance?
No, where's that?
the Dales is NOTHING compared to the north west coast of Scotland. mile upon mile of empty roads with stunning scenery.
And midges
Matt-EUC
13-09-14, 01:03 PM
And rain. And Scottish people.
Nobody wants that.
And rain. And Scottish people.
Nobody wants that.
i'll remember that, young man ;)
andrewsmith
13-09-14, 05:08 PM
Roads are damm sight better though
kaivalagi
13-09-14, 05:28 PM
Roads are damm sight better though
Worth all the midge bites and then some :)
andrewsmith
13-09-14, 08:40 PM
Worth all the midge bites and then some :)
:winner:
carelesschucca
13-09-14, 09:20 PM
I can bite everyone too. Prefer giving cuddles myself.
missyburd
13-09-14, 09:27 PM
Worth all the midge bites and then some :)
We were up there for a week a fortnight back, not one midge bite and probably only saw 5 the whole time! Brilliant holiday :p
I'm not suggesting it be based around one, the AR is, and always should be, based around a social get together. The idea on the other thread was to have a dedicated group within a trackday so that people who have never ridden around a track before would have the opportunity to do so safe in the knowledge that some twerp on an R1 wouldn't come along and knock them off. The problem with organizing such a thing is getting enough people together to be able to take over an entire group/session from a trackday organizer, hence I suggested it might be possible to combine it with the AR.
That way people who might not be inclined to shell out to travel miles just for a trackday might be tempted if it was linked in with a social event as well. Doing the trackday wouldn't be compulsory, just an option. Anyone else on here old enough to remember the Performance Bike magazine "Frenzy" events at Cadwell Park in the 90's, they were a complete riot!
The AR does not have to involve a track for some twerp on an R1 knocking someone off as Scoobs proved ;)
The AR does not have to involve a track for some twerp on an R1 knocking someone off as Scoobs proved ;)
Errr.....oops!
Wales would be a good call. Maybe I could ride it this time instead of twerping the R1.
Can we get a site with hard standing and electric hook up.
widepants
17-09-14, 05:25 PM
We were up there for a week a fortnight back, not one midge bite and probably only saw 5 the whole time! Brilliant holiday :p
We were there the same time and saw No midges..:)
dizzyblonde
17-09-14, 08:46 PM
Can we get a site with hard standing and electric hook up.
There was plenty of hard standing at AR11, there was also the choice of a field with electric hook up or not.
There was also the offer of Jon Gomm playing for the pass of a hat(he's nice fella) but he's now famous(his gigs are sell out, but I've had the honour of seeing him live) . Instead you got Basil Fawlty at the reception desk :lol:
Anwhere that isn't hundreds of miles from me and isn't on a weekend I am working.
I would suggest the Cotswolds, the roads are nice but always really busy in the summer at weekends.
Wales is always good :)
Ok a list of previous locations for AR's (For those who dont know or havent been aorund that long...
Wales (North and South)
South west (Somerset/Dorset)
Cotswolds (Twice)
Yorkshire area (3 times) inc Cat N Fiddle
Northumberland
Essex
Surrey/Kent/Sussex
Midlands/N.Wales
I think that covers the past 14 years or so. I am sure i have missed a couple.
Personally i love South/Mid Wales and the Southwest.
The early AR's were just basically rideouts and people sorted their own accommodation and met at an agreed meeting point. The later ones have involved a lot of planning and more recently gone a bit easy on the whole thing.
So people, make your choices, get involved make some plans and submit your ideas. An AR15 area will be created over the next few days and this thread will be moved into there.
For all the organisers and attendees. Remember, its a thankless task as you will not please everyone, but enjoyable at the end of if when you get a load of strangers turn up because you organise it.
Littlepeahead
24-09-14, 09:20 PM
And Soulkiss will suggest we all ride round the M25. Like sprouts at Christmas, a terrible idea, but a tradition and therefore has to be done.
Spank86
24-09-14, 09:22 PM
I've never seen sprouts riding round the m25 at Christmas.
Sir Trev
25-09-14, 11:43 AM
I've never seen sprouts riding round the m25 at Christmas.
Try drinking a few more Emva Cream and absinthe cocktails this coming Chrimbo and there is a good chance you will.
andrewsmith
27-09-14, 09:13 PM
Well the seeds are being sown for a possible boarders bid for next year or something else
The Idle Biker
28-09-14, 08:14 PM
Anglesey please it looks an amazing track since its been done up. Should be on the BSB calender if you ask me (shame no one does)
Just got back from Anglesey. Epic track, but too narrow for BSB IMO. Welsh Wales rains a lot though doesn't it. Rained every day of 4 that I was there.
Thunderace
28-09-14, 08:24 PM
Yay lets have another AR oop Norf so nobody turns up!
littleoldman2
28-09-14, 08:29 PM
I ride the roads of the Yorkshire Dales, North Pennines, Lakes, Cheviots and Scotland nearly every weekend. Lovely as they are I'd like to go to somewhere else. So up in a bid on some decent roads.
maviczap
28-09-14, 08:29 PM
Yay lets have another AR oop Norf so nobody turns up!
Some of us from darn Sarf made it this year :rolleyes:
It was a good AR IMHO
andrewsmith
28-09-14, 08:59 PM
nowt wrong with the roads up north!!
Matt-EUC
28-09-14, 09:11 PM
nowt wrong with the roads up north!!
Only that they're up north.
carelesschucca
28-09-14, 09:12 PM
Just got back from Anglesey. Epic track, but too narrow for BSB IMO. Welsh Wales rains a lot though doesn't it. Rained every day of 4 that I was there.
Is it any narrower than Cadwell Park? Or is just the fact that its not owned by MSV? Not a go at you IB, it just does my nut in that we have good tracks that don't get used but we go to another country for BSB!
Thunderace
28-09-14, 09:16 PM
Some of us from darn Sarf made it this year :rolleyes:
It was a good AR IMHO
Yeah but you managed to attend feck all rideouts other than the AR so shush!
carelesschucca
28-09-14, 09:20 PM
Andy lets face facts great roads scare the softie southerners...
Andy lets face facts great roads scare the softie southerners...
Ya fink lol
carelesschucca
28-09-14, 09:25 PM
thinking??? Na never been known for that. :)
andrewsmith
28-09-14, 09:34 PM
Or they get a case of hungry bum
Red Herring
29-09-14, 07:38 AM
Andy lets face facts great roads scare the softie southerners...
Yeah, of course they do. Thing is, we're used to actually meeting something coming the other way.
Yeah, of course they do. Thing is, we're used to actually meeting something coming the other way.
And it's just as likely to be over our side of the road too.
kaivalagi
29-09-14, 08:39 AM
I think Wales seems the most appropriate place for next time around, no excuses for anyone not making it unlike AR14...
There'll be sheep to keep the northerners company on and off road and great roads to keep the softie southerners in check too
Thing is you need someone in wales to actually prepare it.
Luckypants
29-09-14, 09:02 AM
Thing is you need someone in wales to actually prepare it.:cool:
Bluepete
29-09-14, 09:33 AM
Mike just volunteered!
Good on yer Mike! Knew you would come through.
So. Where are we staying? Bunkhouse near Bala?
Pete ;)
_Stretchie_
29-09-14, 09:39 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I'm coming in the car then
;)
Luckypants
29-09-14, 10:19 AM
Mike just volunteered!
Good on yer Mike! Knew you would come through.
So. Where are we staying? Bunkhouse near Bala?
Pete ;)
I've considered doing it a few times and basically life just gets in the way. I'm not volunteering as once more life is in the way.
FWIW the bunkhouse we used to use for North Wales Rideouts is now holiday cottages. I know other places.....
JamesMio
29-09-14, 10:45 AM
Anwhere that isn't hundreds of miles from me...
Yay lets have another AR oop Norf so nobody turns up!...
It never fails to amuse me when folks complain about having to ride their motorbikes somewhere, to then ride their motorbikes.
;)
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