My nephew got an award

[timwilky]

http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/life-saver-liam-s-special-award-1-7026700

What the press does not say is that he has started a campaign to have the defibrillator locations advertised. Apparently there are a couple in places such as the council offices/ market office etc. But of no use to Joe Public unless you know in advance where to find one in an emergency.

OK, he ain't perfect despite being my nephew. After all he rides one of them R6 things.

[maviczap]

Good work by your nephew Tim, this is progress, but as a country we are far behind other contries in the placement of defib's.

The only place I'd expect to find one outside of a hospital would be a supermarket.

[L3nny]

Good work that man.

There are a lot of defibs in small villages, there was one in the place I used to live, but that's mainly because it was over 20 miles from the nearest Hospital.

You can only use the defib with help from a 999 operator as understanbly they are in a locked box, if you call 999 and report a heart attack they give you the location of the nearest one and the combination to the lock plus instructions on how to use it. Not much point advertising it's location too much as it would only encourage theft.

Disclamer: this was the case in my NHS trust, you notherners put gravy on your chips so who knows what goes on up there ;)

[maviczap]

Good work that man.

There are a lot of defibs in small villages, there was one in the place I used to live, but that's mainly because it was over 20 miles from the nearest Hospital.

You can only use the defib with help from a 999 operator as understanbly they are in a locked box, if you call 999 and report a heart attack they give you the location of the nearest one and the combination to the lock plus instructions on how to use it. Not much point advertising it's location too much as it would only encourage theft.

Disclamer: this was the case in my NHS trust, you notherners put gravy on your chips so who knows what goes on up there ;)

I have a ticket that says I can use one :p

TBH this is why we're so backward in the use of Dfib's, as the ones in supermarkets & other locations are fully automated, so long as you follow the Dfib's electronic prompts (if it has a speaker), then they are pretty idiot proof.

It won't deliver a shock, if no shock is needed.

There's none of that Tv hospital holding the paddles connected to curly electric cables.

To train someone to JUST use the Dfib would take no more than an hour, maybe less.

Its the other parts of First Aid that take more time to train folk to treat the casualty when you're first on the scene

[Littlepeahead]

We've got 5, yes 5 on site at Lord's! Per square meter I think only Heathrow have got more. But then we do have a lot of elderly Members and people doing sport. I've got my refresher training next month.

Every public building has to have dozens of fire extinguishers yet people rarely die in fires in public buildings. Loads die from cardiac arrest and other heart problems yet defibs are not a requirement. It's crazy.

Well done to your nephew. Glad it had a happy ending.

[maviczap]

Every public building has to have dozens of fire extinguishers yet people rarely die in fires in public buildings. Loads die from cardiac arrest and other heart problems yet defibs are not a requirement. It's crazy.

Yep & the battle we had to get ours included in our kit took ages.

In the US, there's Dfib's everywhere, as we've been taught, as they've recognised how easy it is to get someone back from a heart attack using a Dfib.

If they've figured it out, why can't the UK?

[Littlepeahead]

Because no one's family yet sues for not having one available and saying that their relative died due to the lack of one being there when needed. Maybe if they did it would be like the States.

[Teejayexc]

Because no one's family yet sues for not having one available and saying that their relative died due to the lack of one being there when needed. Maybe if they did it would be like the States.


And how long would it be before someone using a de-fib gets sued for incorrect use or not following procedures, just like the good ol' youessa?

[BanannaMan]

Well done on your nephew Tim. :thumbsup:








And how long would it be before someone using a de-fib gets sued for incorrect use or not following procedures, just like the good ol' youessa?



Five minutes or the first time it doesnt save someone, which ever comes first.


I have a woman trying to sue my work for the third time now after she hit me in our car park.
Fortunately not had to go to court yet as the police report finds her at fault.

[Specialone]

The big shopping areas tend to have a few, I know touchwood in Solihull gas a couple.
I think they should make it the law that all cars should carry a kit in their cars that work off the car battery.

[Red ones]

James Bond had one in his DBS in Casino Royale saved his life too.

It's almost impossible to misuse one. Once you have put the electrodes on the rest is automatic. We've had a couple at work for years and turn up with them if you're looking a bit off colour.

[maviczap]

And how long would it be before someone using a de-fib gets sued for incorrect use or not following procedures, just like the good ol' youessa?

Probably a very very long time, because the automatic ones WILL not deliver a shock unless the machine detects a faulty heart rhythm.

There's also legislation that prevents people acting as a ' Good Samaritan' being sued by the person they were trying to help.

[Quiff Wichard]

He has your smile Tim

[Quiff Wichard]

Oh wait ....
I've never seen your smile ..