The Purge

[DJ123]

Reference the film with this title, do you think this would work in a modern society?

[Spank86]

of course not.

[Matt-EUC]

Doubt it very much. There are a few things I'd like to do, however.

No killing though.

[BanannaMan]

Silly premise to think criminals would limit themselves to one night.
If anything it would just make them worse as criminals usually don't follow the rules.
Why not wait till the all clear is sounded and then knock off or rob anyone you like.
The police can't be everywhere.

[L3nny]

I never understood why the people who wanted to stay out of it just didn't go abroad on Purge day.

Why would normal law abiding citizens suddenly want to kill a random stranger one day of the year?

What about insurance? Who pays to clean the mess up? Hospitals are closed on purge day if you've been shot but what if you've had a genuine accident? What if you were shot 2 mins before the end of the purge? Will they admit you before you bleed to death? What about crimes that will affect people long term like filing a fraudulent insurance claim?

There would have to be so many rules governing the rules of the purge you may as well not bother.

[Balky001]

No it would not work. It would mean there were few decent people and more evil/mental people left at the end of it. I think they cost of post traumatic stress counselling would be pretty massive too

[ClunkintheUK]

Define work. Given that there are a number of less then scrupulous very wealthy people, some of whom already own a small army, I don't think it would end well for the 99%. There were people at the top of companies who were perfectly happy to lay of 1000's of people using the crisis as an excuse (not many, but some). I don't think they'd wait 10 years for a good recession, and go through the hassle of actually laying people off when they could just send some heavies round to kill them once a year, much cheaper and easier.

[DJ123]

I never understood why the people who wanted to stay out of it just didn't go abroad on Purge day.

Why would normal law abiding citizens suddenly want to kill a random stranger one day of the year?

What about insurance? Who pays to clean the mess up? Hospitals are closed on purge day if you've been shot but what if you've had a genuine accident? What if you were shot 2 mins before the end of the purge? Will they admit you before you bleed to death? What about crimes that will affect people long term like filing a fraudulent insurance claim?

There would have to be so many rules governing the rules of the purge you may as well not bother.



Lets say that 1000 people get 'purged' & they were all on full benefits-housing, JSA, etc etc which is going to be in the region of £15k+ per year. You've just saved £15,000,000. Clean up should be fairly easy as you could say that all bodies from the purge are considered to be donors for organs, body parts etc (if they aren't entirely full of holes).
War rules-somehow a war has rules that are enforced!

[LewSpeight]

Can someone please explain this "Keith_D" that keeps cropping up in these polls haha

[Scoobs]

Can someone please explain this "Keith_D" that keeps cropping up in these polls haha

It's in reference to the original keithd (small k small d) who would invariably add an "I don't care" option. Laterly known as the keithd option.

There's some forum history for you right there.

PS - Had to vote keithd

[ClunkintheUK]

Might sounds like I am inciting, but £15,000,000 to the UK finances is the same as you sending a letter second class rather then first class.

If you are going to count lives in society by the amount they cost the state, then you would be better off re-introducing the death penalty. They are far more expensive to maintain then benefit scroungers.

[johnnyrod]

It's just a daft premise for a film. Take a look at the numerous countries where the state has failed to maintain control and just how crap life is for people there.

[DJ123]

Might sounds like I am inciting, but £15,000,000 to the UK finances is the same as you sending a letter second class rather then first class.

If you are going to count lives in society by the amount they cost the state, then you would be better off re-introducing the death penalty. They are far more expensive to maintain then benefit scroungers.



That's only the cost saving. Add up the money you make on re-selling the houses to people, selling the body parts from the 'donors' and the money you've made from selling the weapons. Soon adds up year on year!

[Spank86]

Lets say that 1000 people get 'purged' & they were all on full benefits-housing, JSA, etc etc which is going to be in the region of £15k+ per year. You've just saved £15,000,000. Clean up should be fairly easy as you could say that all bodies from the purge are considered to be donors for organs, body parts etc (if they aren't entirely full of holes).
War rules-somehow a war has rules that are enforced!

You,would only save 15mil in the short term because you've also taken 15mil of spending out of the economy over the next year, plus all the spending that's resulted from it so a lot more people are now out of work.

[ClunkintheUK]

Spank, That does highlight one of the interesting problems with capitalism now just starting to come through. Namely that having a super rich effectively takes money out of the economy, as they cannot spend it fast enough. I am talking about the 0.1%.

[Mark_h]

Might sounds like I am inciting, but £15,000,000 to the UK finances is the same as you sending a letter second class rather then first class.

If you are going to count lives in society by the amount they cost the state, then you would be better off re-introducing the death penalty. They are far more expensive to maintain then benefit scroungers.


More cost-effective to guarantee everyone 5 years of quality retirement. No work, good health cover, all the support you could want or need. To be taken at any time over 55 years of age. Once over your 5 years you get shipped off to an old folks retirement village. Unfortunately this village has no internet or telephones but lots of lovely country walks and comfy chairs. In reality the old folk village is actually a meat rendering plant converting folk into compost, fuel and veggie sausages.


Old folk will cost more than pretty much any other element of society and in most cases no longer contribute much in tax or spend. Also fixes the problem of providing food for veggies.


Sounds like a plan to me.

[L3nny]

Or use them as batteries, Matrix style

[ophic]

Mark_h, you're scary.

[Matt-EUC]

Mark_h, you're a genius.


Fixed.

[Spank86]

Spank, That does highlight one of the interesting problems with capitalism now just starting to come through. Namely that having a super rich effectively takes money out of the economy, as they cannot spend it fast enough. I am talking about the 0.1%.
Depends how much of it they have, some is ok because the money doesn't sit idle (unless its in a mattress) the banks move it about and invest it. Of course this creates its own problems if there's too much money being loaned compared to really being in the system.

[ClunkintheUK]

Yeah, some wealth inequality is fine, but too much makes organic growth difficult. When you start relying too heavily on external investment for growth (be in bank debt or wealthy investors) rather then getting a decent price for your wares and re-investing it, it starts causing other problems. Suddenly entrepreneurs become beholden to people higher up the food chain again, rather then making an excellent product.