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DomP
20-03-15, 11:54 AM
Well I've serviced my yzf r125 ready for my first ride after doing my cbt, any advice? I'm planning on just doing a few short journeys on known roads to begin with then when I'm more at ease with general riding /gear changes I will book some more lessons.

I found on my cbt I really just needed some time on my own to really get to grips with knowing what great I'm in etc.

NTECUK
20-03-15, 12:18 PM
Take it easy.
Hold your head up and look were you Want to go.

SvNewbie
20-03-15, 12:19 PM
My first ride after my CBT was on a bike I rented for a weekend. Rode it around all weekend (literally 12 hours a day!), by the Sunday I felt comfortable enough to ride around central London without too many issues.

Just take it at your own pace.

maviczap
20-03-15, 01:39 PM
Now you've passed they'll be less stress on you, so you can relax a bit, take your time and keep it smooth.

it'll all come together.

DomP
20-03-15, 03:37 PM
Thanks folks, I'm a little apprehensive but determined. Any insurance places I should try tonight?

Nutsinatin
20-03-15, 06:57 PM
Where you based?

DomP
20-03-15, 09:17 PM
Herefordshire, miles from anywhere!

figaro
21-03-15, 08:40 AM
Just get some miles under your belt, that's the only way to learn and to progress.

It's good practise to look as far ahead as you can, make a habit of it. If it goes a bit tits-up in a corner, look towards the exit, don't target fixate, you will go to where you're looking, so look to where you want to be heading.

And on quieter roads have a mess around with countersteering.

Robbyrner
21-03-15, 11:00 AM
My advice would be just don't panic, take your time and focus on doing things properly/safely. Speed isn't important.... Yet!

DomP
21-03-15, 08:50 PM
I have to be honest, I didn't go out today. I spent a while looking at insurance and couldn't decide on comprehensive etc. Then had to take our German exchange student out for the day.

Any insurance advice?

figaro
21-03-15, 09:05 PM
Any insurance advice?

Yes. Buy fully comp, but buy the cheapest.

DomP
21-03-15, 09:25 PM
That's my instinct, do you add legal and personal injury cover, it's only 35 quid extra.

figaro
21-03-15, 09:34 PM
To be honest most insurers add it as a matter of course, gratis. Or they do for me anyway. Don't pay too much for extras; helmet and leathers cover shouldn't cost more than, say, £20 extra. Likewise protected NCB. If they start asking too much, just forget them.

There's a huge amount of brokers, but not that many underwriter, and the underwriters all charge about the same, so don't think those extra pounds spent on a posh logo will carry any weight. Just get your legal cover as cheaply as you can and go ride.

DomP
21-03-15, 09:45 PM
So legal cover, helmet and clothing, personal injury and 12 months breakdown for £35 is quite good then

figaro
22-03-15, 05:39 AM
Sounds alright to me.

aesmith
22-03-15, 08:25 AM
Sounds good. Have a think about whether you really need fully comp though. Depends on how much the bike's worth, and the excess on the policy. Also, would you want a claim on your record at this stage?

figaro
22-03-15, 08:37 AM
There's next to no difference between fully comp and third party only insurance these days, so it's not really worth going for anything less. Don't forget that once you pass your test you will have to specify pillion cover - you don't get pillion insurance as standard.

aesmith
22-03-15, 09:35 AM
There's next to no difference between fully comp and third party only insurance these days, so it's not really worth going for anything less.
People make that assertion, but it's by no means always the case. My price dropped by 35% changing from comprehensive to third party only.

figaro
22-03-15, 09:46 AM
I always compare quotes when I renew insurances, and more often than not the third party quotes are as dear, and sometimes even dearer, than fully comp. In my experience it's been that way for at least the last 15 years or so. Dunno if it's an age thing, or maybe my rather shop soiled license makes a difference, but that's certainly how I find it.

aesmith
22-03-15, 10:01 AM
Just out of interest I re-ran my quote knocking 20 years off my age, and 20 years off my experience, and it only put the price up by £3 for TPO, £10 for fully comp making it a 40% saving for third party only. Knocking another 10 years off doubles the price, but with still the same difference between cover levels.

However you've got me wondering so I'm going to try some comparisons and see if the price difference is due to me or to my insurer.

figaro
22-03-15, 10:05 AM
Throw a load of convictions at it, that's probably what's making the difference with me.

aesmith
22-03-15, 10:10 AM
Let's hope Dom hasn't got a load of convictions, if he's only just done the CBT.

figaro
22-03-15, 11:07 AM
Let's hope Dom hasn't got a load of convictions, if he's only just done the CBT.

Pah! He's not even trying! My very first provisional license at 16 came with two endorsements already on it. Guess I was never cut out to behave...

DomP
22-03-15, 03:09 PM
No im a good boy! Not that young to be on a 125, I'm 35 going on 36 but decided to work my way up to an SV. Plan is to spend summer on my Yzf r125 when having lessons then once mod 1 and 2 are passed move up.

Too sensible maybe, but Im cautious and don't want to take on more than I'm capable of.

DomP
22-03-15, 03:13 PM
Any way I've been out and done 40 miles. Feels weird especially as I passed my cbt nearly a month ago and haven't ridden since. Some of it was far from perfect but I kind of expected that. Bit of 'I'm sure I cancelled that signal' and jittery moving off from junctions.

I did find I had a better idea of what gear I was in compared to when I did my Cbt.

figaro
22-03-15, 04:12 PM
35?!

You're just a pup.

DomP
22-03-15, 04:32 PM
Ha ha cheers mate, I feel it!

Dunn-y
22-03-15, 05:53 PM
My insurance more than doubles when I go Fully Comp over TPFT. And my excess is £650 regardless of what type of cover I go for so I just stick with TPFT.

figaro
22-03-15, 08:14 PM
Must be just me then.

DomP
22-03-15, 08:53 PM
Yeah excess is ridiculous, but I'm happy to pay less than £200 fully comprehensive with legal/personal injury cover and breakdown. One plus of being 35.

figaro
22-03-15, 08:57 PM
Wait til you get over 50, mine was under £70 with pillion cover, euro cover, helmet and leathers and £100 excess...

DomP
22-03-15, 10:00 PM
Wow that's loose change these days.