Spot the Sv

[maviczap]

Seems to me the driver was at fault here, but the cyclist didn't help the situation. The drivers reaction was a bit OTT and just because there's a cycle path doesn't mean you have to use it.

Anyway, spot the SV :p



EDIT: Link removed as the language breaks the u-rating.

[pookie]

too much shouting.. I'm glad he had a camera.. The driver should try giving cycling a go.. he might learn something new :).

You are right the on the driver its a bit too Vinnie jones and lock stock especially with that jacket. Bed time reading of John Franklin Cyclecraft may help him understand, however if you drive a car as wide as a barge on roads which are narrow its a bit harsh to punt other road users out of the way just because they are slower and stick out. I hope some poor cyclist down the road doesnt get flattened by a black range rover.

[L3nny]

The driver just about sums up how I feel about cyclists. In Milton Keynes there are cycle lanes everywhere so you can get anywhere in the town without going near a road. That's too casual for the hard-core lycra clad Wiggins wannabes though. They have to ride 3 abreast on a 70 mph dual carriage way practicing their slipstreaming.

[ClunkintheUK]

I know that road very well indeed. The "cycle lane" was one of the first put down in London, probably close on 20 years ago now. It isn't really a cycle lane, its just a strip of green down the pavement. They haven't put ramps on the dozens of kerbs for people's drive ways, and people walk in them all the time. The surface is pretty much guaranteed to give you a bad day with a fine layer of gravel pretty much permanently on the surface and absolutely shreds tyres. They are pretty much impossible to ride on a road bike, and very dangerous on any other bike, because of all the driveways and the risk of hitting a pedestrian, even if you have slowed right down. I remember when they put them down thinking that they were going to be a bad idea for exactly this reason. Also in the direction the cyclist was going, most people do about 25 on a push bike anyway and if you really do need to overtake visibility is basically perfect for a good 3/4 mile.

[maviczap]

The driver just about sums up how I feel about cyclists. In Milton Keynes there are cycle lanes everywhere so you can get anywhere in the town without going near a road. That's too casual for the hard-core lycra clad Wiggins wannabes though. They have to ride 3 abreast on a 70 mph dual carriage way practicing their slipstreaming.

Yes, but just because they're cycle lanes everywhere doesn't mean the cyclists have to use them.

I wouldn't want to use them when I'm whizzing about at 20mph, as if I hit a pedestrian, its going to hurt both of us, and pedestrians are another law unto themselves. Many cycle lanes are poorly planned & end abruptly without warning

The cyclist wasn't riding 2 abreast & just shouted because the 4x4 was about to squash him, which is a normal reaction.

Too many people in hurry to get somewhere in their cars these days, when holding back for a second isn't going to change anything.

Its a symptom of too many vehicles on the roads these days, with not enough space for them all, so drivers get frustrated & boil over

[maviczap]

I know that road very well indeed. The "cycle lane" was one of the first put down in London, probably close on 20 years ago now. It isn't really a cycle lane, its just a strip of green down the pavement. They haven't put ramps on the dozens of kerbs for people's drive ways, and people walk in them all the time. The surface is pretty much guaranteed to give you a bad day with a fine layer of gravel pretty much permanently on the surface and absolutely shreds tyres. They are pretty much impossible to ride on a road bike, and very dangerous on any other bike, because of all the driveways and the risk of hitting a pedestrian, even if you have slowed right down. I remember when they put them down thinking that they were going to be a bad idea for exactly this reason. Also in the direction the cyclist was going, most people do about 25 on a push bike anyway and if you really do need to overtake visibility is basically perfect for a good 3/4 mile.

Indeed, an example of a poorly planned cycle lane

[Luckypants]

Sorry chaps, link removed as the language is not u-rated.

[maviczap]

#-o Ooops sorry Mike

Check You Tube for Pirory Lane Road rage if you want to see the vid

[ClunkintheUK]

I do like the Boris Bikeways (cycle super highways) Good surface, enough space, and part of road traffic, not part of pedestrian traffic.You still need to watch out and pay attention, but they give the cyclist a bit of back up and have in my experience worked really well.

[ClunkintheUK]

#-o Ooops sorry Mike

Check You Tube for Priory Lane Road rage if you want to see the vid
corrected for you (Priory Lane)

[maviczap]

corrected for you (Pirory Lane)

Re corrected for you, he'd misspelt his video title :p

Probably angry fingers ;) :D

[ClunkintheUK]

Haha, sorry my bad.

[Amadeus]

Yes, but just because they're cycle lanes everywhere doesn't mean the cyclists have to use them.


Certainly true.
On the other hand it could be argued that cycle lanes are there to help not just cyclists and when cyclists use the road (rather than a cycle lane), they cause bigger problems for other road users (i.e. car drivers).

A bit of a no-win situation but I think if a cycle lane is there, cyclists should use them.

[maviczap]

As clunk pointed out in some pathways are too dangerous to use when they are on a footpath. 70kg cyclist @ 20mph is a heavy object.

i use ones around here, but they are painted on the road, so discourage (but not prevent) car drivers from squeezing me off the road

but thats no use for narrow roads.

people just need to calm down a bit and just give everyone a bit more space on the road.

Generally i do find chelsea tractor drivers amongst the worst drivers on our roads, always whizzing down country roads at far too fast velocities.

[L3nny]

A. 70kg cyclist @ 20mph is a heavy object..

Too many people in hurry to get somewhere in their cars these days, when holding back for a second isn't going to change anything.

Maybe the cyclists should also slow down a bit then.

[maviczap]

Maybe the cyclists should also slow down a bit then.

Speed limits for cycle paths then? :rolleyes:

[pookie]

Isn't it victimising cyclists by saying they should'nt be on the road. Cycling infrastructure is there to support cycling but not mandatory for cyclists to use them. The primary position is an acceptable riding position.

Chief inspector Ian Vincent, Cycle Task Force, said:

"There is no specific Metropolitan police service guidance on cycle safety. We refer cyclists to the Highway Code and Transport for London's (TfL) cycling safely page, which recommends cyclists ride assertively, away from the gutter. If the road is too narrow for vehicles to pass you safely, it may be better to ride in the middle of the lane to prevent dangerous overtaking."

Unless that overtaking car is a meat wielding angry bloke in a tight leather jacket in which case being dead right wont make any difference.

Oh and that was a lovely yellow curvy sv. Where do I collect the prize?