Assault or not?

[carelesschucca]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/2015/july/canepa-facing-assault-charges-after-2013-mugello-crash/

Just seen this performance from Niccolo Canepa so what do you guys think?

[Ch00]

Looks like he intentionally did something to the front of the other bike either pushed the bars or grabbed a handful of brake.

Not on in my book!

[nutzboutbikes]

What a massive tool.

[littleoldman2]

Speechless:confused:

[Bibio]

make an example and ban both of them as the other rider clearly done something prior for the incident to come to a head like that.

[Red Herring]

There is nothing the other rider could have done that would excuse behaviour like that, period. That was quite deliberate and the sport needs to send a very clear message that such actions will not be tolerated. Regardless of what the courts decide I'd like to think he won't be on another grid anytime soon.

[carelesschucca]

He's out riding in World Super Bikes at the moment. So his team and Ducati don't seem that bothered by it. Well not at the moment.

[Red Herring]

That's alright, I can handle disappointment....

[Bibio]

There is nothing the other rider could have done that would excuse behaviour like that, period. That was quite deliberate and the sport needs to send a very clear message that such actions will not be tolerated. Regardless of what the courts decide I'd like to think he won't be on another grid anytime soon.

the other rider might have we dont know. for any professional sports person to react like that it must have been something serious. only banning one of the riders just makes the other rider and possibly other riders think they can get away with misbehaving. banning both puts out a much stronger message.

[NTECUK]

Bit late in the day tbh.

[carelesschucca]

the other rider might have we dont know. for any professional sports person to react like that it must have been something serious. only banning one of the riders just makes the other rider and possibly other riders think they can get away with misbehaving. banning both puts out a much stronger message.

Riders have reacted similarly just because they've been baulked on a fast lap during qualifying, or a rider has made a harsh overtake, or even been in a place when they are being lapped thats caused the other rider to loose the chance of a race win (in their mind) I wouldn'y say any of them are a banning offence... However grabbing out at another riders bike and causing them to crash is.

Your phrase WE DON'T KNOW means your judging and finding someone guilty for their actions, when you don't know what those actions were. A little harsh methinks.

[Bibio]

the way i looked at it was the rider that caused the crash is a professional and you dont get to that level of racing without having seen and done it all before so to warrant a reaction like the one he made must not have been trivial.

lets say we were out on a run and i tried to kick you off your bike but nobody seen me do it, you then catch up with me and in retaliation you kick me off my bike but people seen you do it, who would be at fault?

[carelesschucca]

Hahaha you're mad Lance if I'm ever in court and you're on the jury I'll be asking to have you removed.

[Bibio]

thats a shame as i would have been your best chance of getting off :-)

anyway who cares the GM is coming and i'm getting excited :riding:

[NTECUK]

lets say we were out on a run and i tried to kick you off your bike but nobody seen me do it, you then catch up with me and in retaliation you kick me off my bike but people seen you do it, who would be at fault?

Lot's of people do naughty thing's.
Not Getting caught doing it is the tricky part...

[ophic]

the way i looked at it was the rider that caused the crash is a highly paid, highly strung and highly stressed toff and you dont get to that level of racing without having seen and done it all before so to warrant a reaction like the one he made means it could have been anything.
Fixed for you. Mildly.

[Amadeus]

lets say we were out on a run and i tried to kick you off your bike but nobody seen me do it, you then catch up with me and in retaliation you kick me off my bike but people seen you do it, who would be at fault?

Traditionally, that requirement is called "evidence".;)