650 v 1000

[yamrdtez]

being new to SV's I feel I must ask this question. my 99 naked 650 in the short time I have owned it as impressed me it's very light and handles a treat.by far not the quickest bike I have owned but I didn't purchase the bike for speed, not sure regards reliability but only test of time can tell me this.
back to the question, is the 1000 much better than the 650.
cheers Tez

[yamrdtez]

forgot to mention reason for this is that I have owned 600's and 1200 Bandits (k series)
but besides the 12's having so much more torque I found that the 600's handled so much better. the same frame was used for both and the 12 motor seemed too powerful for the frame to cope.

[Swin]

I seem to recall some people on here saying that the SV1000 has a better build quality than the 650, but as I haven't owned a 1000 I can't comment on that myself.

Personally, I've decided not to replace my pointy just yet - I'm going to work on making it more comfortable for my back complaint rather than replace, and I think I'll probably only replace it with another SV in a few years time anyway

[Redmist]

Depends on your definition of "better" I guess!

The SV1000 goes very well and is a blast to ride just for its punch, nothing like a superbike but plenty for the roads. But its heavier so gives it away in the corners.

Again its all relative, I trackday'd the 1000 and could still get thrills in the corners.
Build finish is not so much better than the 650 I don't think, although mine had a little mis-treatment from the last owner leaving it stood in salty crud for a while so maybe I'm a one off!
Obviously the bike itself is made better to begin with as it needed to cope with the extra horses, so basically things feel beefier than the 650.

[yamrdtez]

I seem to recall some people on here saying that the SV1000 has a better build quality than the 650, but as I haven't owned a 1000 I can't comment on that myself.

Personally, I've decided not to replace my pointy just yet - I'm going to work on making it more comfortable for my back complaint rather than replace, and I think I'll probably only replace it with another SV in a few years time anyway

regards the back problem if your happy with the bike get some high bars fitted. I have 4/5 inch rise bars fitted and just love my bike. i to suffer big time with my back but I have no probs with my sv and it's raised at the back (pardon the pun)

[yamrdtez]

Depends on your definition of "better" I guess!

The SV1000 goes very well and is a blast to ride just for its punch, nothing like a superbike but plenty for the roads. But its heavier so gives it away in the corners.

Again its all relative, I trackday'd the 1000 and could still get thrills in the corners.
Build finish is not so much better than the 650 I don't think, although mine had a little mis-treatment from the last owner leaving it stood in salty crud for a while so maybe I'm a one off!
Obviously the bike itself is made better to begin with as it needed to cope with the extra horses, so basically things feel beefier than the 650.

thanks for your reply redmist. like said very happy with my 650 but for longer journeys I was thinking of adding a 1000 to my collection if it would be worth while.

[rickylp]

regards the back problem if your happy with the bike get some high bars fitted. I have 4/5 inch rise bars fitted and just love my bike. i to suffer big time with my back but I have no probs with my sv and it's raised at the back (pardon the pun)

How hi did you go at the rear? I've seen risers from around 15mm to 45mm! I'd like to raise mine but don't wanna by the highest and be ridiculously high!

[yamrdtez]

How hi did you go at the rear? I've seen risers from around 15mm to 45mm! I'd like to raise mine but don't wanna by the highest and be ridiculously high!

with try and upload a pic of my bike before I got the knife out:D
if you need any more info let me know and I will try and help

[yamrdtez]

how do I upload pics off my computer:rolleyes::confused:

SORTED, I HOPE.

[yamrdtez]

How hi did you go at the rear? I've seen risers from around 15mm to 45mm! I'd like to raise mine but don't wanna by the highest and be ridiculously high!

you must be a tall chap to look at 15mm dogbones

, your head would be in heavens:cool:

[rickylp]

I meant a rise of 15mm to 45mm

[yamrdtez]

how tall are you, I will take the measurement of my bones lol, and let you know.

[rickylp]

6ft 2 mate

[yamrdtez]

6ft 2 mate
no probs mate I am 6-1 so should suit you fine, will measure to mo and let you know.

[rickylp]

Cheers ��

[yamrdtez]

my pride and joy

[rickylp]

Looks good mate

[yamrdtez]

work is still on going, end can as been changed but mainly it's a tidy up:love:

[yamrdtez]

total length of dogbones are 5 inches and when I sit on the bike the balls of my feet touch the tarmac. hope this helps T

ps the bones used were the original, cut chopped and rewelded

[Mark_h]

I've had a 650 and a 1000, both nakeds. The thou is MUCH faster and has better brakes and suspension. Some people will complain they don't handle. Either they've never ridden one and are just repeating web opinions or aren't doing it right. Anyone who follows me in the tight twisty stuff will confirm they handle fine, you just need to give it a bit more input.

Get through a bit of fuel, I generally get 112 miles from full to light on regardless of how hard I ride it.

If you want proper quick agility, get a modern sports bike. If you want lazy power the SV1000 is OK but there are better bikes out there. If you just want a really cheap way to bring a grin to your face, get yourself an SV1000 and make your own mind up. Everyone I've ever lent it to gets off with an ear to ear grin saying things like "nobody really needs that, but can I have another go"

[yamrdtez]

thanks for your reply Mark, at 52 yrs young I purchased my 650 sv for fun and reliability. I love my classic 2 strokes and own 7 of them. I feel my 650 will do the job that I want it to, but I am considering going for the 10 for longer 2 up journeys. and I must add I will be keeping my 650 for the grin factor.

[Swin]

regards the back problem if your happy with the bike get some high bars fitted. I have 4/5 inch rise bars fitted and just love my bike. i to suffer big time with my back but I have no probs with my sv and it's raised at the back (pardon the pun)

I had come to the same decision myself, thanks for the recommend!

[Mark_h]

thanks for your reply Mark, at 52 yrs young I purchased my 650 sv for fun and reliability. I love my classic 2 strokes and own 7 of them. I feel my 650 will do the job that I want it to, but I am considering going for the 10 for longer 2 up journeys. and I must add I will be keeping my 650 for the grin factor.

I planned to keep my 650 too. However after riding the thou it just felt dull so sold it. the thou two-up is still just as quick it's just stopping gets a tad more exciting.

[wideguy]

I've ridden a bone stock SV1000, and one that was highly modified, had lots of power, and excellent suspension.
I like my 650 better than either.

[mattSV]

I've had a 650 and a 1000, both nakeds. The thou is MUCH faster and has better brakes and suspension. Some people will complain they don't handle. Either they've never ridden one and are just repeating web opinions or aren't doing it right. Anyone who follows me in the tight twisty stuff will confirm they handle fine, you just need to give it a bit more input.

Get through a bit of fuel, I generally get 112 miles from full to light on regardless of how hard I ride it.

If you want proper quick agility, get a modern sports bike. If you want lazy power the SV1000 is OK but there are better bikes out there. If you just want a really cheap way to bring a grin to your face, get yourself an SV1000 and make your own mind up. Everyone I've ever lent it to gets off with an ear to ear grin saying things like "nobody really needs that, but can I have another go"

What he said...

I had both as well, in the faired variety. The 650 was a great bike, but I always felt a lot more confident on the thou - the suspension combined with the extra weight just made it feel more planted in the corners. If I had to choose between the two, I would take the thou every time