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Thinking about getting an iMac, any users on here convince me to make the change from Windows to mac :)
I'm all ears.:smt111
shiftin_gear98
22-09-15, 02:57 PM
Not a user myself, my wife is a graphic designer and has had a Mac since just after I met her - 1998.
She would never use a PC, for her work.
You might get better replies from others if you state your intended use. I'd take a punt and say something to do with photography.
Bluepete
22-09-15, 02:59 PM
I asked a similar question...
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=3003448&highlight=Imac#post3003448
Bought a PC.
Pete ;)
Yes, the main reason will be for post processing photographs...
and not for playing games...... well the odd one or two and for watching films on.
Cheers Pete for the link, interesting read :)
apple mackintosh were king of the hill a long long time ago for graphics design for the simple reason adobe only wrote software for the mac and they were single task machines. graphics designers to a certain extent know pretty much burger all about hardware so graphics designers stuck to what they knew. in these modern times there is nothing between them so for the extortionate price of a mac you can have an all bells and whistles windows/linux machine. if its the mac OS you are interested in then i'm pretty sure you can run it on a pc as a mac is no longer fixed to hardware/processors as of old.
the worst machines for crashing and messing things up when i was at uni were the macs.
have a look at http://www.hackintosh.com/
Transformed my i7 pc in to a mac pro :). You have to be a bit choosey on hardware but it went on my home built win 7 pc easily and been running for 2years +
Wife has an iMac and Apple now class it as vintage and wouldn't repair it once the graphics card packed up. Got it fixed but I had to take it apart myself and send the card off. PCs are better for upgrading individual components as and when you feel you need more power/ram/storage.
Littlepeahead
22-09-15, 06:15 PM
I have the latest version of full Photoshop on my PC at work. I also run it on an 8 year old laptop and ancient PC (still with Windows XP.) I have no problems with any of them running Photoshop on Windows.
shiftin_gear98
22-09-15, 06:58 PM
I wasn't saying macs were better, personally I think apple are a rip off. As soon as you have bought it it's out of date. Her last mac could no longer be updated, so nothing would run properly. Nothing wrong with the machine. It's now decomposing in it's box. Nearly 3 grand later she had a new one. Will be out of date again shortly. And yes Lance, like me she knows **** all about the techie stuff.
Amadeus
22-09-15, 07:49 PM
I would consider MacOS a much better architecture and much more stable than Windows.
If you have the right applications available, I would recommend a Mac.
I had a play on one tonight, and for the same money I could probably build an all singing / dancing PC....
Gonna have to think about this really hard.... I do like the iMac 27 screen...
damn you apple....
Bluepete
22-09-15, 09:15 PM
The screen was the real attraction for me too Richie. I've still not upgraded my current screen, but it's very high up on my list!
Pete ;)
ermmm you can get a big screen for a pc and better quality for the price.
You can buy very good 4K screens for decent money now. The latest Macs are 5K IIRC & do look fantastic, but then again for that price you expect it.
For processing photos look at Quadro cards Richie, something like a K620 should suffice, or if your feeling flush a K2000 or K2200
andrewsmith
23-09-15, 06:22 AM
Mac screens are superb
My work screen is same age as my macbook and it's shocking compared
sent with all the fury of a clogged drain!!
going for a PC with a 4k monitor me thinks :)
I've decided to get one of these..... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190971164895?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) and this monitor (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380948112112?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
can someone take a look to see it I'm doing the right thing... :) please
DarrenSV650S
25-09-15, 09:13 PM
lol good luck
It doesn't even tell you what you are buying. Get the mac ;)
I've decided to get one of these..... (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190971164895?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) and this monitor (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380948112112?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
can someone take a look to see it I'm doing the right thing... :) please
Screen looks fine, but I would avoid the PC. Everything about it screams cheap: case is cheap, he has the spec of the motherboard wrong (even though he has linked to the specs!!!!), no manufacturer of the memory or HDD. Oh, and a Gaming machine with no GPU?!
Checking on Ebuyer, Scan & DABS for other PC Deals. Chillblast are also worth a look at for a built system.
To see what a build of components would cost use https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ as a guide. It will give you the wattage needed and generally any incompatibilities (incorrect CPU socket, memory, CPU cooler etc)
Thank you very much for the Wise words.... I'll give that PC a miss...
Right back to looking :)
These 2 look to be sufficient:
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Asgard-2.html
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Centurion-Skylake-PC.html
Remember if you are having a 4K monitor you want the PC/Graphics card to be able to transmit 4K resolution
Build the PC yourself, that way you can make sure all the components are exactly what you want.
Are you going to be using it for games or just photo editing? Would have thought a decent on board GPU would be okay for that?
ethariel
25-09-15, 10:08 PM
I'd also have second thoughts on the monitor.
Something like - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Monitors+%26+TVs/4K+Resolution/Asus+PB287Q+28%22+4K+60Hz+1MS+Gaming+Widescreen+LE D+Monitor+-+Black+?productId=64745 is a bit more expensive but a far superior quality if display (you are going to be doing image processing on it after all) just jeep it out of direct sunlight onto the screen
ethariel
25-09-15, 10:16 PM
It's very easy to pick up a mediocre PC that does a little of everything but not much of what you want.
The one you linked has a retail component value of about £400, over half of that is the CPU, although the motherboard is really poor.
If you are looking for a PC that does fairly decent image processing without going down the Quaddro route you should be looking to lay out at least £650 in retail components and build it yourself (Win 7 you can pick up for about 30 to 40 quid online for an OEM copy) plus the monitor.
Photo editing software - Photoshop - works with CUDA cores so the inboard graphics will struggle, adding an NVIDIA GTX 960 or better will help (£150 ish and up) or similar but i loathe AMD cards so won't mention them as i hate having a 200W heater under the desk.
Half the fun is picking what you WANT then the horror of having to scale back the £4,000 monster you just specced out)
These 2 look to be sufficient:
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Asgard-2.html
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Centurion-Skylake-PC.html
Remember if you are having a 4K monitor you want the PC/Graphics card to be able to transmit 4K resolution
Build the PC yourself, that way you can make sure all the components are exactly what you want.
Are you going to be using it for games or just photo editing? Would have thought a decent on board GPU would be okay for that?
I'd also have second thoughts on the monitor.
Something like - http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Monitors+%26+TVs/4K+Resolution/Asus+PB287Q+28%22+4K+60Hz+1MS+Gaming+Widescreen+LE D+Monitor+-+Black+?productId=64745 is a bit more expensive but a far superior quality if display (you are going to be doing image processing on it after all) just jeep it out of direct sunlight onto the screen
I've just bought this monitor (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121772428009)
and asked a mate to build me a PC.
Intel i7 4th gen
2Gb graphics card 4K compatible
1 or 2 Tb HDD
16Gb DDR3 ram
and a decent power supply and case and mother board.
:)
Amadeus
03-10-15, 05:33 PM
Don't forget the floppy drive
andrewsmith
03-10-15, 08:03 PM
The 5.5" drive
sent with all the fury of a clogged drain!!
I'd recomend you also add one of these as a boot drive, I stuck one in my laptop and it transformed it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Internal-Retail-MZ-75E250B-CN/dp/B00RG87DUY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444044175&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=ssd+samsung&psc=1
Bluepete
05-10-15, 07:28 PM
I'd agree with the SSD for the OS.
You don't need one with huge memory, but the speed they work at is awesome. I have one in an old PC that runs our media centre, streaming DVD quality films to the TV, cinema room and various tablets. Startup time is about 25 seconds, every button click gives an instant response.
Have fun!
Pete ;)
I've just bought this monitor (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121772428009)
:)
Monitor has arrived :)
Happy bunny, just got to get the Tower unit built :)
with a mac you pay for convenience. Take it out of the box. Turn it on.
(and then swear at it loads whilst you get used to it not being windows)
is this any good ???
and I've got a 64Gb SSD dive for the O.S sorted
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321706194813?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I always laugh when people use old things like "macs are better for video/images....cooking my dinner".
I work in the media/pap industry and yes macs are prolific but there is nothing that Macs that do that PCs can not and they are not better for video/images, if anything the screens are worse on the iMacs as they are all glossy and the gamma setting out the box is completely unrealistic which makes images seem vibrant, any video/image editing should be done in colour calibrated screens using a Spyder (or similar) to set them up.o
Bluepete
01-11-15, 08:50 AM
On the subject of calibration, does anyone have a spider or similar I can borrow? Cheeky I know, but you don't get it you don't ask!
Pete ;)
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