LED headlight conversion

[Crawling Finn]

All,

Has anyone got experience with these ones?
http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h4-led-headlights-headlamps/h4-cree-philips-led-headlight-kit-g4

I was thinking on trying one on the Gladys as for four months my commuting is in dark.

[Jayneflakes]

They look interesting, if you go for it do give us a write up of them.

Good luck

[DarrenSV650S]

There are some beam pattern pics here. They don't look great. I think to get decent ones you would be spending a lot more

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/horizon-leds/184522-horizonleds-co-uk-h7-philips-lumileds-luxeon-headlight-kit-fitted.html

[embee]

Someone on another forum got an H4 LED from http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/led-bulbs-especially-for-motorcycles-shop.php


The guy who runs it seems to be a genuine sort by all accounts. The lamp they do looks exactly like the gen3 version at the site you linked to, but at half the price. Just an option. The forum member seemed pretty happy with it, but I can't vouch for the comparison versus a decent modern lamp like an Osram or Philips.


If you do go for the gen4 version please post up your findings. At lest there's a 10% discount voucher on offer at the moment.

[tom_e]

Someone on another forum got an H4 LED from http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com/led-bulbs-especially-for-motorcycles-shop.php


The guy who runs it seems to be a genuine sort by all accounts. The lamp they do looks exactly like the gen3 version at the site you linked to, but at half the price. Just an option. The forum member seemed pretty happy with it, but I can't vouch for the comparison versus a decent modern lamp like an Osram or Philips.


If you do go for the gen4 version please post up your findings. At lest there's a 10% discount voucher on offer at the moment.

I might give these a punt after Christmas £50 isn't going to break the bank if they turn out to be crap.

[Bibio]

dont bother. LED dont have the intensity for throw. get yourself some decent nightbreakers instead.

[NTECUK]

There are some beam pattern pics here. They don't look great. I think to get decent ones you would be spending a lot more

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/horizon-leds/184522-horizonleds-co-uk-h7-philips-lumileds-luxeon-headlight-kit-fitted.html

People think about what makes the light source in your reflector.
Its a hot wire ie it looks like this -.
Hid arc light sorce is shaped different so that's what causes bleed over.
Led Cree source is again different.
So just need the appropriate reflector.

[Toooldtodie]

dont bother. LED dont have the intensity for throw. get yourself some decent nightbreakers instead.

Bibio you're absolutely right. Osram Nightbreaker bulbs are superb. Most of my commute at this time is on an unlit A road and they can light up the path ahead like the Sun on full beam and still be useful dipped. Best £12 upgrade I made to the bike.

[Corny Gizmo]

Bibio you're absolutely right. Osram Nightbreaker bulbs are superb. Most of my commute at this time is on an unlit A road and they can light up the path ahead like the Sun on full beam and still be useful dipped. Best £12 upgrade I made to the bike.

+1 - Really good for £12

[NTECUK]

In the car I prefer Philips X-treme Vision.
But osram are cheaper and better than standard

[embee]

Agree. I used Osram Nightbreakers (original version) in the car, they lasted about 3 years which is fine. replaced them with Philips X-treme Vision which I'd say were noticeably better.


I've put Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited in the bikes. Can't do a direct comparison as I haven't done a back to back, but I'd say they are very similar to the X-treme Vision.

[Toooldtodie]

Thanks, nice to have a recommendation. Will consider them as a replacement when the time comes (soon no doubt!).

[Mickle]

It might be me being tight, bit £125 for headlight bulbs that appear not to work that good?

Me, I would go for the night breakers and put around 1000 miles of petrol in the tank

[yorkie_chris]

They do look better thought out than the usual chinese tat that you see, actually some thought gone into heatsinking them (most important thing with LEDs)

You're probably lucky to get 1300 lumens out of the usual 55w halogen fed by ageing wiring... so 3000 lum would be a big jump.

However, a set of nightbreakers fed by a relay and some nice shiny clean wire would leave you £100+ to go to the pub with...

[AlexAdams]

Don't forget that the regulator relies on the headlights using a certain amount of current to use a good portion of the energy created by the generator, without the this regulators overheat and fail (common fail area on curvy's that don't have the headlights on all the time).

[Toooldtodie]

Don't forget that the regulator relies on the headlights using a certain amount of current to use a good portion of the energy created by the generator, without the this regulators overheat and fail (common fail area on curvy's that don't have the headlights on all the time).

Now that is a very good point!

That should be written in bold font with lots of exclamation marks!!!!!!

[yorkie_chris]

Don't forget that the regulator relies on the headlights using a certain amount of current to use a good portion of the energy created by the generator, without the this regulators overheat and fail (common fail area on curvy's that don't have the headlights on all the time).

So why did they fit a headlight switch?

The regulators fail because they're fookin naff... even with people who always have lights on.
They don't fail any more regularly on the naked version that draws half the headlight power than the fairy model.

[Toooldtodie]

Maybe the start of a new thread... but is there anything that IS well made, designed and basically fit for purpose on the SV!!!!

[NTECUK]

Bibio has experience of hid conversion kits .search his posts.

[NTECUK]

Your need to dismantle the head light's and fit a kit like this.
https://www.retrofitlab.com/en/xenon-projectors-1/mini-h1-bi-xenon-projectors-50-44.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA7rmzBRDezri2r6bz1qYBEiQAg-YEtgtwKAeemDsBVvQCUs8qDYHC0y4gYK0UQudiQlR154caAtrS 8P8HAQ

[Bibio]

Your need to dismantle the head light's and fit a kit like this.
https://www.retrofitlab.com/en/xenon-projectors-1/mini-h1-bi-xenon-projectors-50-44.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA7rmzBRDezri2r6bz1qYBEiQAg-YEtgtwKAeemDsBVvQCUs8qDYHC0y4gYK0UQudiQlR154caAtrS 8P8HAQ

been there done that, if you want light output stick to 50w 5000k H4 hid. or philips/osram

[NTECUK]

And their you have it from the proverbial horses mouth....

[yorkie_chris]

dont bother. LED dont have the intensity for throw. get yourself some decent nightbreakers instead.

I'd have to question that they don't have the intensity for throw, the chip on these modern things looks reasonably. The LED dive lights with modern power LEDs in certainly do throw.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff53/Packhorse/Lights/magasphericsst90.jpg

[NTECUK]

I'd have to question that they don't have the intensity for throw, the chip on these modern things looks reasonably. The LED dive lights with modern power LEDs in certainly do throw.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff53/Packhorse/Lights/magasphericsst90.jpg

When the lamps led through and through yes LED are great.
But were talking a mix of reflector designed for incandescent filament.with a planar light source.
Its not going to do justice.
Love the LED lamps on thr nissan but that's how it came out of the box.

[Crawling Finn]

OK, have spent my life savings on a single unit which came about £75 shipped. Out came the Philips Extreme Vision bulb and in went the LED. Fitting was easy however the adapter that fits on the H4 base is quite soft plastic which means you need to be careful when fitting the unit. You need to fit the adapter on the reflector, fit the original rubber cover, then fit the unit through the cover.
I'll try to get some pictures up later, but so far I feel that the spend was justified.
Lights are now significantly more powerful - both lo and hi beam. Low beam pattern is slightly higher but I have dropped the aim a bit down and nobody has been flashing their lights on me so far. The pattern is good shape with small areas of reflection over the base line at around 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock which doesn't seem to dazzle other road users too much.
Intensity seems similar to a H4 HID conversion kit I have tried before but with better pattern (tried that on Honda CBR 600F though and in the end I was left without lights in dark when the ballast went dead). Additional benefit of the LED unit is that I can carry a spare H4 bulb under the seat and replace it very easily on the road if needed.

[tom_e]

Decided to take a punt as well, and they're brilliant much better throw than traditional lamps good spread on the road and the beam pattern looked good to me backed up by doing over 300 miles over the last few days with no one flashing me.
They're going to make my commute down poorly lit country roads much nicer.

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[stuartb]

finn/tom - which unit did you go for? Have you got a link for it?

I've gone from normal H4 to some ebay special superbright, to the Philips ones, and I'm still not happy with how far ahead they light the road.

[tom_e]

finn/tom - which unit did you go for? Have you got a link for it?

I've gone from normal H4 to some ebay special superbright, to the Philips ones, and I'm still not happy with how far ahead they light the road.http://www.horizonleds.co.uk/exterior-leds/cree-led-headlights/h4-led-headlights-headlamps/h4-cree-philips-led-headlight-kit-g4

[Crawling Finn]

That's the one tom_e is giving you a link for. You need to email them if you want to purchase a single unit rather than a twin kit. They will then give you a discount code which allows you to purchase just one pulb.