bt021's price

[AlexAdams]

Is £130 delivered for a new pair a good enough deal to be worth hitting buy it now and storing them for a few weeks until I need them?

[Red Herring]

I'd say that sounds like a good deal if those are the tyres you want yes.

[AlexAdams]

The way you put that made me check, and indeed they're not the ones I wanted which were the BT23's! I'm pretty convinced to get Maxxis supermaxx's now. I always worry if I buy really expensive tyres that I'll be really upset if they were to get damaged before being completely worn out!

[Red Herring]

I wasn't wanting to put you off them, different people buy tyres for different reasons. The BT023 is effectively an upgrade on the 21 for only a little more money, but that doesn't necessarily make the 21 a bad tyre choice.

I just think when it comes to rubber it's better to find what you want at the best price rather than just having something because it's cheaper than the rest......

[AlexAdams]

The bt23 seems a lot more. I'm weighing up maxxis supermaxx vs continental conti motions, either must be better than the original 10 year old dunlops on my bike!

[shiftin_gear98]

PR4's


That is all.

[Corny Gizmo]

Conti motions are a good cheap all round tyre, had them a few times

Getting PR4s next though :)

[Nutsinatin]

Having ridden with both the BT21s and Conti Motions I would choose the Contis. They are an older tyre and ride like a 10 year old tyre, nothing wrong with them but there is a reasonable difference between them and more modern tyres (e.g. Michelin Pilot Roads 3/4) especially in the wet. The BT21's were a better tyre but were just too unpredictable and would slide or spin up unexpectedly which I've not experienced with other tyres. The Contis were much more neutral and predictable especially when they started to slide.

However you can get a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 3's delivered for £162 which I would say is worth the extra £32. They have a bit of a sharper profile so tip in quicker and have better dry grip as well as much better wet grip as well as a very quick warm up (and work better than anything else I've ever tried in the cold (below 5*C)). I could get about 8000 miles out of them compared to the 3500 I got from the BT21s. Conti Motions were also good for around 8000 miles.

[AlexAdams]

Cheers for the feedback. I've ruled out the BT21's anyway but your feedback suggests they're poor value if they only last half of what a highly rated tyre can do! The Conti motions appear good value, all things considered I probably want something more towards more grip/less life balance, 4000 miles a set seems like plenty!

I'll probably take the advice and get the Michelin's if they're available for the price you've mentioned!

[Grim-Lock]

Currently running conti-motions myself and as has been said already, very good predictability and above average in all areas. I found them distinctly more confidence inspiring than the stock dunlops but have only used the 2.


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[JM2]

They're not poor value if they are half the price and they do everything else you want. But by far, the best rubber is new rubber - whatever. The second best rubber is rubber that behaves like nearly new rubber when it isn't. And all bets are off when a screw embeds itself too far off centre.

[Red ones]

3,500 miles out of BT021s???

I'm at 13,500!!! They're just at that point where they become twitchy and temperamental; the front pushes out slightly, the rear slips a little too much.

[Red Herring]

3,500 miles out of BT021s???

I'm at 13,500!!! They're just at that point where they become twitchy and temperamental; the front pushes out slightly, the rear slips a little too much.

It's all down to tyres and how you use them. I get anything from 500 to 2,000 miles from the rear tyres on my SV but I don't use it for anything other than playing. Fronts last marginally more when road riding.

[Red ones]

I think I better go fetch my pipe and slippers.

500 miles??? That's about a week and a half for me!!!

[AlexAdams]

However you can get a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 3's delivered for £162 which I would say is worth the extra £32. They have a bit of a sharper profile so tip in quicker and have better dry grip as well as much better wet grip as well as a very quick warm up (and work better than anything else I've ever tried in the cold (below 5*C)).

I struggled to find someone to fit 'internet' tyres within a reasonable distance to me especially considering I'd have to take the tyres in the car and my bike to the garage . I got a quote for £50inc vat for fitting (ride in ride out) £212 total. However they offered to supply and fit (ride in ride out) the PR3's for £200 inc vat. So that's where I'm at, I've booked it in for next Sat am. I'm spending quite a lot more than planned and not sure how good a deal I've got due to high fitting costs, bearing in mind I'm not confident about supporting the bike whilst the front wheel is out and bike is faired so a pain to support underneath.

[Red Herring]

You're the wrong side of the M25 for me otherwise I'd say get them couriered direct to my address and then ride down when it suits and I'll fit them for the £3 it costs to get rid of the old ones. It's what quite a few of my mates do and I end up with an endless supply of rear tyres to practice my doughnuts on...... £50 is just a rip off.

[AlexAdams]

Well first impressions are that the PR3s are much more comfortable over minor road imperfections! The garage struggled to break the beads of the old tyres because they were so hard!

[Toooldtodie]

Who doesn't like new tyres?
New chain and sprockets good too... these are all things we dread having to pay for, but transform the bike.
I commute 800 miles a month and have used Bridgestone T30s. They last about 11k which is pretty good in my book. Will try PR4s next time just to compare.
What you use the bike for and personal preference are the main factors in tyre choice.

[Red ones]

14,600 miles out of a pair of BT-021. Yippee!

Getting another pair on Tuesday.

[JM2]

Someone hasn't been trying hard enough.

[Red ones]

My car does 10,000 to a set of tyres.

[Red Herring]

How long is a piece of string..... I get anything between a few hundred and a few thousand miles out of my motorcycle tyres, it entirely depends on what you run and what your priority is. Each to their own. It's a bit like trying to compare fuel consumption figures......

[shiftin_gear98]

Which is like watching paint dry.

[Red Herring]

Which is like watching paint dry.

What type of paint, I find emulsions seem to dry a whole lot faster than gloss....:D

[Toooldtodie]

Water based, like beer. I agree.