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timwilky
08-12-16, 03:46 PM
See the local rag

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/tributes-to-dead-biker-jared-alexander-24-from-preston-1-8280511

So this is a known thug/thief who was riding a stolen bike. Does he deserve tributes or condemnation or even to be called a "biker". Should the headline not be tributes to dead bike thief.....?

Harsh or fair. Discuss

Mr Speirs
08-12-16, 04:33 PM
Fair!

No sympathy.

ophic
08-12-16, 04:35 PM
There was a video ad on the article for Intimissimi. Umm... I forgot whatever opinion I had.

DuncanC
08-12-16, 05:30 PM
I feel for his family its not their fault he was a wrong un. I am for more worried for the poor sod he used to commit suicide against. What ever the circumstances they will always know that they were involved in ended someone's life.

timwilky
08-12-16, 06:30 PM
He is from a known gang of thugs that threatened to strip naked a WPC and set her on fire. He was already in custody when his gang all got criminal asbos for robberies and assault etc.
There are suggestions he was attempting to get away when he was involved in the collision.

The rag has censored comment.

maviczap
08-12-16, 09:37 PM
Guess thats some kind of karma.

No sympathy

mattSV
08-12-16, 10:59 PM
Oh dear.

How sad.

Never mind.

andrewsmith
09-12-16, 07:19 AM
No sympathy!

They get what they have coming .

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shiftin_gear98
09-12-16, 09:36 AM
Feel sorry for the person he hit. He however sounds like a **** wit waste of skin.


Strike one from the gene pool.

SV650rules
09-12-16, 01:20 PM
People like this deserve all they get, to describe them as a waste of oxygen is being kind. It's just bad when they involve others, a nice brick wall would have been very welcome.

Swin
09-12-16, 04:35 PM
Sounds like a thief got his just desserts really

Shame for his parents, but it's hard to feel any sympathy

BanannaMan
10-12-16, 06:00 AM
Good riddance to bad rubbish.


And TBH,
People publicly grieving someone like this makes me have little sympathy for them as well.

Iansv II
10-12-16, 03:52 PM
Having had my bike nicked on thursday, he got what he deserved, just hope the innocent party isn't affected badly

454697819
12-12-16, 11:13 AM
I'm a bit torn - Technically i agree just deserts and all that - But, playing devils advocate here, the report states it was as stolen bike, not that he stole it, nor that he rode it knowing it was stolen.

I doubt this to be the case given his past, but let not be jury and executioner until the full facts are known.

SV650rules
12-12-16, 06:17 PM
I'm a bit torn - Technically i agree just deserts and all that - But, playing devils advocate here, the report states it was as stolen bike, not that he stole it, nor that he rode it knowing it was stolen.

I doubt this to be the case given his past, but let not be jury and executioner until the full facts are known.

This blog says owner of bike knew who stole it and told the police, should be easy enough for police to find out if the bloke who was killed knew these lowlife pond scum - they have probably been causing problems for years and taking up valuable police time

http://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2016/12/motorbike-involved-in-lostock-hall-crash-was-stolen/

keith_d
12-12-16, 08:25 PM
Sympathy for the person he hit - yes.
Sympathy for the parents - maybe. They were responsible for his upbringing
Sympathy for the thief - nope. Just a Darwin award candidate

Specialone
13-12-16, 12:00 AM
I don't wish death on anyone but you reap what you sow, for all we know he may have killed someone later in life in this way.
Bike theft is at epidemic levels lately, so it's inevitable the ksi figures for the thieves is going to increase too.

454697819
13-12-16, 12:14 PM
This blog says owner of bike knew who stole it and told the police, should be easy enough for police to find out if the bloke who was killed knew these lowlife pond scum - they have probably been causing problems for years and taking up valuable police time

http://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2016/12/motorbike-involved-in-lostock-hall-crash-was-stolen/

Again

Don't disagree with the theory, but based on the article in question we don't have enough evidence to reliably come to a safe conclusion.

But we know the answer don't we, and he had it coming.

rgds

keith_d
17-12-16, 08:01 AM
Again

Don't disagree with the theory, but based on the article in question we don't have enough evidence to reliably come to a safe conclusion.

But we know the answer don't we, and he had it coming.

rgds

This is the Internet - we don't expect to find safe conclusions here.

SV650rules
17-12-16, 09:53 AM
This is the Internet - we don't expect to find safe conclusions here.


The internet is basically full of the opinions of people not qualified to back them up with anything as boring as facts.

A few years ago there was a case of a girl blogging from the middle east (Syria) and some news services were using this source, bet their faces were red when it turned out that the blogs were from a man based in Scotland. The moral is, if you want dodgy information just Google, its all there for the taking.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/13/syrian-lesbian-blogger-tom-macmaster

Blapper
18-12-16, 01:36 PM
Another example of Darwinian theory at work. I don't know if I do feel for his parents really as they must have known what he was like and most likely at least put no effort into bringing him up with decent values.

Yeah, if any innocent people were involved, I feel very sorry for them.

My wife is a police call taker/dispatcher and she says that the police are chronically understaffed and if the same relatively few scumbags/nutters were locked up, they wouldn't be.

NTECUK
18-12-16, 03:52 PM
Whilst you should never want to see some one shuffle off this world.
There's some people whose absence benefits the meany but for the need of the few.
I think that's what Spock ment.

yorkie_chris
21-12-16, 11:52 AM
Feel more sympathy for a rat in a trap than scum like that.

Anyway, was there a lot of damage to the van?

timwilky
23-01-17, 10:59 AM
just to close this off with confirmation that the bike was stolen, thieves identified etc.

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/i-lost-a-son-myself-and-no-family-should-have-to-have-that-news-1-8347867

Blapper
26-01-17, 07:20 AM
I feel more sorry for her than I do for the other family's loss. The police have been arrogant and neglectful in this case in my opinion.

NTECUK
26-01-17, 01:11 PM
I feel more sorry for her than I do for the other family's loss. The police have been arrogant and neglectful in this case in my opinion.

Yes sad that no-one Help.....

littleoldman2
26-01-17, 08:18 PM
just to close this off with confirmation that the bike was stolen, thieves identified etc.

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/i-lost-a-son-myself-and-no-family-should-have-to-have-that-news-1-8347867

Sad to say but this report does not surprise me at all.