View Full Version : SV650s to Street Triple?
Adam Ef
11-12-16, 08:23 PM
Hi. I've noticed a few people on here seem to have gone from riding SV650s to Triumph Street Triples. I'm still considering doing the top yolk bar conversion on my SV but also got thinking maybe I should just be looking at putting the money it's going to cost (a few hundred £ as I'll be paying someone to fit it all) towards a different bike that is already slightly more upright. The obvious choice would be something like a Street Triple.
Can anyone offer their experience of going from an SV to the Striple and what they prefer. Is the position and feel of the bike a lot different? A few kg lighter doesn't sound like much? But does it feel lighter to ride? Is that due to the bars and position and something that would be similar on the SV once the conversion was done? Also power, gearing and throttle response, especially at lower city and town speeds? I don't really need any more power than the SV and to be honest would sometimes benefit from slightly less. I'd like to use the SV in the city more but with the steering handling and engine wanting to do more than the 20 to 30mph city speed limits I never end up using it as much as I'd like. I do like to have enough power to position myself quickly on dual carriageways though and get out of blind spots on overtakes.
Any other input or insights of what the bike change would offer would be greatly appreciated. It would cost a fair amount I think to even trade in or sell towards a Striple, so if it wouldn't be much different to the SV with bar conversion then I'd probably not think about it.
scotty217
11-12-16, 09:22 PM
Hi mate, I changed from my SV sk6 to a 2012 Striple at Easter. I feel that i sit much taller than my SV, i can see farther, and there is oodles of creamy smooth power. I feel that i can filter better because of this better riding position and vision. Brakes are excellent and acceleration is a dream, I feel that you can bimble along at 25 in top, twist your wrist and be flying in no time. My route to work is Telford to Birmingham centre: A5 - M6 - A34 with a wee short tunnel at the end where i always flip my visor and listen to that V twin blare - now a triple wail! If you do change to a striple you won't regret it.
Scotty
carelesschucca
11-12-16, 11:01 PM
There is a huge difference between the SV and a street triple, especially if you go for the R.
The only things that aren't better in my opinion are the steering lock and on bike storage.
If you are coming from a faired SV the riding position is completely different, you will get a much better view of what is happening and you'll have more usable power on tap. The build quality in my opinion is miles better but I rode a curvy and that thing loved to rust.
The best idea though is go for a test ride and see and feel the differences for yourself.
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 12:06 AM
Thanks guys.
@Carelesschucca, when you say steering lock I take it you mean inability to turn as tightly? I do find I'd like my SV to be able to turn slightly more tightly than it can. And on bike storage as in under seat? There's not masses on the SV although the bit under the rear seat is useful for a few small bits I tend to use my Kriega 10 and or 20 bag fixed over it if I'm carrying anything bigger than sandwiches and a small U-Lock. I'm guessing the Kriega setup would work fine on a Striple.
@Scotty217. I do love the sound of my SV and my only experience of the Striple is hearing someone who lives down the road come home occaisionaly and it sounds very quiet and whirry, although by the looks of it it transforms into a great sound once moving?
Do either of you have a screen on yours? How would that compare to the faired SV? I do find the SV protection from the fairing to be just about right for me although also appreciated the feel of being open to the wind on my previous naked bike to experience the ride speed more. Being battered by wind was definitely tiring on longer journeys though.
two people I know have Street Triples, both say it's the best bike they've ever owned.
Personally, I don't like the looks and it sounds like a hoover, even with an aftermarket Arrow can on it!
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 10:17 AM
I'm not blown away by it aesthetically either as it does look a bit busy for my liking, similar to the MT07 with quite a lot going on in the lower half, but the main thing for me is the ride. If I was going on looks I'd choose something more calssic, Bonneville etc for my tastes but would probably regret it when actually riding it.
From examples I can find on Youtube it sounds great when opened up! I'd agree about the hoover comment at lower speeds, which is my only real world experience of our neighbour coming home at 10mph down a small road with that sewing machine sound that so many bikes have.
I'm not sure if it's the clip-ons on the SV that make it feel heavier to ride than it is? Steering on smaller roads at lower speeds can be hard work for extended times. Long faster rides with sweeping curved roads and it's great. In fact even the low position is perfect at 60mph+ as wind pressure on your chest lifts you to a perfect light feeling riding position. But an hour at lower speeds and my wrists and neck complain. A more upright position might sort that, but then I don't want to be hanging off the back of the bike battered by wind at 70mph either.
Looks like there's a few nearby at a dealer second hand so I may go have a look. All just ideas at this stage as I won't have the budget until next year. Just trying to decide whether to hold off investing in the SV bar conversion at the moment.
You won't get the money back if you invest in the bar conversion.but its a whole heap cheaper than the stripple.
They are a proper hooligan of a bike in the right(wrong) Hands.
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 11:02 AM
Can it be ridden easily in a non-hooligan way? Does it behave at lower speeds and I guess most importantly is the steering "lighter"?
If I did the bar conversion on the SV I know I wouldn't get the money back if I sold it, in fact it may even be worth less, which is part of the reason I'm sceptical about doing the conversion to solve my problems... if it doesn't work then I'd be spending more on it, then lose from selling and have even less for something else. But if I sell the SV as it is with clip ons and add on the bar conversion money I'd be nearer a Striple, albeit an older early model with a fair amount of miles on. Looks like they sometimes go for about £3200. My SV with all the add ons right now might be worth £2300 ish and the bar conversion with parts is likely to be about £300 to £400?
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 11:04 AM
I've also got a very rare 250 that I'm currently doing up and having second thoughts on looking at my list of things to do on it! That might sell towards funding a Striple too unless I get motivated!
maviczap
12-12-16, 11:43 AM
We'll I would have a Street Triple but the looks don't do anything for me, I want them to encase the head lights in a fairing like my Curvy has, I think it would look great, but the naked triple doesn't. Sorry
Having put Gilles Vario bars on mine, to raise the riding position, I would say its worth it, plus a gel seat + double bubble transformed the long distance comfort.
The Vario bars take all the weight off your wrists & palms, so riding in town is a much happier experience, although I don't think the V twin is the nicest to ride in slow traffic, the Triple or an inline 4 would be smoother.
The curvy is a bit of a PITA to do a bar conversion on, only because the fairing restricts what you can do safely within MOT regs, but it is worth doing because the OEM clip ons & seat are the work of the devil, I could ride more than 30 miles without excruciating pain, and I'd have to stop.
Something like this won't break the bank & may solve your immediate dilemma and discomfort.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-CNC-41mm-Riser-Clipons-Clip-On-Handlebar-For-Honda-Suzuki-Kawasaki-/391203002547?hash=item5b158418b3:g:~WIAAOSwL7VWhNu W
IMHO I'm sure its the angle of the OEM bars that's responsible for most of the discomfort, my Vario bars are almost horizontal.
If these work, then buy some better quality, if not start saving for the Striple
carelesschucca
12-12-16, 12:23 PM
Thanks guys.
@Carelesschucca, when you say steering lock I take it you mean inability to turn as tightly? I do find I'd like my SV to be able to turn slightly more tightly than it can. And on bike storage as in under seat? There's not masses on the SV although the bit under the rear seat is useful for a few small bits I tend to use my Kriega 10 and or 20 bag fixed over it if I'm carrying anything bigger than sandwiches and a small U-Lock. I'm guessing the Kriega setup would work fine on a Striple.
@Scotty217. I do love the sound of my SV and my only experience of the Striple is hearing someone who lives down the road come home occaisionaly and it sounds very quiet and whirry, although by the looks of it it transforms into a great sound once moving
Yeah, steering lock as in when you are pushing the bike around it has a fairly substantial turning circle (same for slow speed maneuvering) I very quickly developed the bad habit of spinning the bike around on the side stand because the bike is tiny compared to anything else I've owned and its so easy to do...
Underseat storage on my R (2011 version) is almost non-existent, I can get a small disc lock in there or my wallet. Certainly not both, if I'm riding about I normally use a magnetic tank bag for my stuff.
The bike in general is the most practical sports bike I've had the pleasure of riding, it is really just a daytona with high bars and no fairings. I've done everything on mine from track days to 3,000 mile trips round Europe two up, I love the bike dearly and there is absolutely nothing out there that I want to change it for...
I've got an official Triumph screen for mine but I hardly ever use it I don't think the bike needs it unless I'm doing big marathon trips.
I've also got a set of Arrows for the bike which make a good difference to the noise, ironically it can make the bike really loud.
The extra power compared to the SV isn't huge but you will come to need it...
Trying to think about things I miss from my old bikes that the Street doesn't have, and the only thing I really miss from either of my suzuki's is that top end crazy bonkers rush of an IL4 600. the Street just doesn't do that crazy yeehaa let's go mental, but then again that was the reason I got rid of the gixer. The streets engine just smoothly goes about its business of pushing you along the road without having those crazy steps in power...
Honestly try one, you will love it... I still laugh at my first riding experience on a Street, I sat at the traffic lights outside the dealers and went to ride off like I would on the Gixer, gave it the same revs and dropped the clutch like I had been and away I went down Renfrew highstreet on the back wheel giggling and screaming in delight and fear, it didn't really matter either I just felt proud to be riding a British bike. :-D
carelesschucca
12-12-16, 12:28 PM
Oh yeah there is a downside to all this, every old codger will want to warble on about how they used to ride a Triumph in the good old days and tell you how great it was compared to their mates BSA...
Oh God I'm gonna be that old codger one day...
I had a Daytona 675.
I had the Striple for a long test.(Aswell as a tiger 800).
Even the more powerful Daytona can be well behaved with a somewhat more peaky motor.
The reasons why I went for the tiger over the Striple was its foot pegs are father forward.
Im being honest and I should have gone with a Striple as they are lighter and have better ground clearance.
I did a low speeds skills day on the Daytona and the two striples on the same course were more agile.
The R is a better bet if you like to tailor the suspension.
The styling is a bit marmite.
I like the dame edna tbh.
When I did tec up north for an AR my Daytona went from my uesual 42 mpg to over 50mpg.
The motor is very flexible.
But its a 3 cyl and thats inherent in the makeup of a 3.
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 01:42 PM
Thanks for all the input everyone. I'm definitely tempted. Budget and saving will be the decider I think. I do love the SV though. For the couple of issues I have with it there's a lot that is right about it. I'm coming to appreciate that more the more I take the 250 I'm doing up out. It shows the SV to be a very smooth, planted and solid machine, compared to the twitchy plank that is the 1983 250!
Time for a trip to browse a couple of dealers nearby and plan for the future maybe : )
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 04:44 PM
Way out of budget but very near me! ... https://www.gumtree.com/p/triumph-motorbikes/triumph-street-triple-675-r-675cc-motorcycle/1203887330
If you didn't want to spend a bunch of money on a stripple, try test riding the new SV650. Also a naked with a nice upright riding position. I test rode one and loved it. A couple of orgers have bought one and love it.
SV650rules
12-12-16, 07:45 PM
If you didn't want to spend a bunch of money on a stripple, try test riding the new SV650. Also a naked with a nice upright riding position. I test rode one and loved it. A couple of orgers have bought one and love it.
Have not ridden a stripple and although I had heard good things about them the looks and price put me off. I have been riding new AL7 since May and it is really nice bike with nice riding position, low seat height (a must for me) and a beaut engine and over 70 mpg not hanging about - also Euro4 emissions compliant. Seat could use a little more padding, but I have ridden for a couple of hours and still had some feeling in my cheeks :D
Have read triumph triple forum about vibrations from engine between 5 and 8 k revs that can make your hands numb that triumph have not been able to fix. The latest SV is smooth as silk throughout rev range. I have never noticed any vibration either through bars or in mirrors, either at tickover or moving - I am also becoming addicted to the V twin soundtrack (the sound was the thing that I first noticed about the SV, and I just had to go over and find out which bike was making that lovely noise).
A 90degree V twin is the most naturally very well balanced of all configurations and does not need all the fancy balance shafts to smooth out vibrations (with varying degrees of success). Unfortunately the 45 and 60 degree V twins found in cruisers are the worst balanced and render your rear view mirrors useless.
Adam Ef
12-12-16, 08:54 PM
The new SV did cross my mind. I imagined they'd all be expensive and new or very nearly new still, but looking at the Striple prices it may not be that much different. Cheers. Will try and get a look at one if I go dealer visiting in the coming weeks.
macamxthe1st
13-12-16, 09:28 AM
I had a Street Triple a couple of years ago but have also been riding a new SV since May. For me it would be the SV every time for lots of reasons not least the very unpleasant vibration patch on the Triple. It would be my view that if you rode both back to back for half an hour you may well come down on the side of the Triumph but if you lived with both and racked up the miles then it would be the L7 SV.
Geoff.
I was offered £1000 trade-in against my k3 which brought the price down to £4000 net for the non-abs version or £4500 with abs. Still thinking about it. The only thing I didn't like was the digital display but I could learn to live with it.
SV650rules
13-12-16, 10:59 AM
I was offered £1000 trade-in against my k3 which brought the price down to £4000 net for the non-abs version or £4500 with abs. Still thinking about it. The only thing I didn't like was the digital display but I could learn to live with it.
I think L7 digital display is really neat, with engine temp, gear position, fuel level, remaining miles etc. I find it very informative and easy to read and a lot of bike makers seem to be going for the horizontal tacho now.
I have seen comments from people who tested MT-07 that because their instrument display is on the rider side of handlebars it is a distinct effort to look down, the Suzuki L7 display is forard of the bars, more in your normal sight line.
The only thing I added (and have done this on other bikes) was a couple of bright blue 5mm LED's wired into the turn indicator circuit (the connections are available inside the headlight shroud) - I find the little green arrow lights fitted to most bikes are pants, and having seen the result of leaving a turn signal flashing on a bike I think it is probably one of the best safety things I have done. Will try to get photo on here, but because they flash its a bit hit and miss LOL - a video would be better.
picture of one blue LED, both (with hazards on) and unlit - they are mounted in the instrument cover via a couple of half round indents made with small round file (held in place with hot-melt glue)
I bought mine from Maplin a few years ago, can't find them in catalogue but worth an ask in a shop - similar to these
https://www.amazon.co.uk/20pcs-Lamp-Light-Bulb-Wired/dp/B00H98OS2W
macamxthe1st
13-12-16, 11:36 AM
The only thing I added (and have done this on other bikes) was a couple of bright blue 5mm LED's wired into the turn indicator circuit (the connections are available inside the headlight shroud) - I find the little green arrow lights fitted to most bikes are pants, and having seen the result of leaving a turn signal flashing on a bike I think it is probably one of the best safety things I have done.
Excellent little mod. I don't care how experienced you are it is something everyone does at some time and as you say the penalty can far outweigh the crime.
Geoff.
Oddly I can't remember a vibration on my old 675 (2013-) or any vibes on my Tiger 800????
BoltonSte
13-12-16, 12:55 PM
Everyone else has covered the good bits. I have kriega on mine. I have an old set so bought the new s-hook straps, the loops go under the subframe and are on there permanently with just a little bit sticking out. The hooks on the bag. The US-10 is about the same width as the tail so will be fine, I have been camping with the full 2 x 10's and 20 on and it was fine.
carelesschucca
13-12-16, 01:46 PM
the very unpleasant vibration patch on the Triple.
Oddly I can't remember a vibration on my old 675 (2013-) or any vibes on my Tiger 800????
Please don't take this as cheek,you mention vibration patch, can you give more info? The fact NTECUK seems confused too.
I will be honest amd say I have had a vibration issue on the Street and it was very specific and because there was something wrong that could be sorted. Having said that your vibration might be completely different.
God I'm so nosey :-D
I went from a SV650S to a 2012 Street Triple and back to a new SV650 (the L7).
I know the Triumph is lighter but it didn't feel that way to me, it felt bulkier, more solid and more stable at speed.
It is a lot thirstier than the SV; I'm a slow rider these days so the triple was wasted on me but it felt a lot quicker than than the SV which you'd expect with another 25 bhp. Ridden slowly, I would get 51 mpg on the triple, the new SV ridden similarly gives 75 mpg.
The triple runs hot too, the fan comes on very quickly in the summer and you feel the heat at traffic lights. At low speeds it is noisy, the whistling blender noise is apparent even with ear plugs, it never bothered me but people would stop and look to see what the noise was (I had stock, high level pipes).
The suspension on the non-R (mine) was harsh - I had the forks rebuilt by Reactive Suspension of York and bought a Nitron rear shock but it was never a "plush" feel (I understand the R is better). I'm only 5'6 and I found the riding position comfortable on the triple with a slight forward lean, some complain about the seat but I found it ok.
Overall, mine was reliable in 9000 miles/1 year, I had many "niggles" with switches but it wouldn't stop me buying another if I wanted a quicker bike, the post-2012 models are more economical but someone on the US RAT site claims they are less reliable based on people posting problems. I don't think the triple likes short commutes but that's only my opinion.
macamxthe1st
13-12-16, 03:40 PM
Vibration Patch. between 6-8.000 rpm, it would induce tingling and numbness in my hands, right hand more effected than left.
Geoff.
the only time mine vibrated was if I opened the throttle wide in a high gear at low revs, other than that, mine was very smooth. I don't know where you're situated but there's a very well respected independent (Triumph certified) mechanic/guru in South Lincolnshire if you decide to buy a triple, people travel from the south coast for him to work on their bikes (he also runs maintenance classes): Clive Wood
carelesschucca
13-12-16, 06:36 PM
Vibration Patch. between 6-8.000 rpm, it would induce tingling and numbness in my hands, right hand more effected than left.
Geoff.
Gotcha, I know what you mean, I just didn't find it a hassle :) Its really sad that it did cause you an issue.
I do need to remember that my street is a toy, and nothing more, I commute maybe once or twice a month in the summer.
wyrdness
14-12-16, 10:45 AM
I had a 2013 Street Triple (non-R) for 3 years. It's a really great bike, much better than the SV. I didn't have a problem with vibration on mine. The only downside of the standard bike is that the suspension (particularly the rear) is pretty harsh. The R is apparently much better.
Triumph made a lot of changes between the 2012 and 2013 models, so any niggles with the earlier models may be sorted on the later ones. I had no issues at all with mine in three and a half years of daily riding. I'd definitely recommend the Street Triple as a step up from the SV.
]Um as both the tiger and the Daytona were post 13 models maybe it's why I don't experience it.
Did 14k on the Daytona Liuhttp://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?albumid=801&pictureid=7090 and up to 8k on my 800xrx.
Adam Ef
14-12-16, 10:33 PM
I went out on my SV today for the first time in a few weeks as weather looked vaguely dry and remembered how much I like it. I am tempted to try the cheaper option of bar conversion and see if that gives me the lighter steering I'm after instead of what looks like quite a lot more to upgrade to the Triumph or even the still relatively new SV.
I was thinking about the Triumph bar vibration comments though and kept an eye on what sort of revs I use cruising. Most of the ride today when I was doing steady speed over distance I seemed to only be about 4000rpm. Do people ride continually with higher revs? Would the Street Triple need constant higher revs to cover distances at a decent speed? I can't imagine it would need high revs to cruise at 60 to 70mph?
I've been using the 250 single I picked up a bit more recently as I'm less fussed about getting it mucky and that has reminded me what real bar vibrations are like! Even 40mph for half an hour has my hands tingling!
For what its worth... I had a K4 SV650S and went to a 2012 Street R. Didn't test ride one, and bout it off the back of all the gleaming reviews. I love it. I have had it 3.5 years but it only did 350 miles between last MOT's :( I have put 12K on it, probably in a year and a half mainly pleasure, and ridden from hampshire/surrey border to plymouth and back in a day - that wasn't great fun I can tell you. But for hooning round the back lanes and 3 months for 25 miles each way commute it was brilliant.
Really comfy riding position, lovely smooth power delivery and super flickable in the corners. I loved it, but it will be going in spring as I have too many bikes and not enough time to ride them. Been riding more on track this year and I have to say I enjoy it a lot more!! Stick a set of aftermarket cans on them and they sound lovely.
If you are thinking of one, go and testride one. The new one isn't too dissimilar to the older one other than the first gear is not as aggressive on the new ones.
SV650rules
16-12-16, 11:55 AM
I would deffo test ride the new AL7 as well, this will do three things, let you try the new engine ( a real peach) the more upright riding position and also effect on steering / handling of wider bars (which may help make a decision of the bars on your existing SV). With the higher bottom gear on the new Striple (and even the older ones except the 'R') the SV 0-60 times are on a par, as you would expect from similar torque figures. The striple has better standing quarter time ('where the extra ponies kick in) and bit higher top speed, which is of no consequence either on a naked bike, or in UK really if you want to keep you licence (and your vital signs LOL) - most difference on paper looks to be above 60 to 70 - then again who rides there regularly in the UK.
The fuel consumption on the new SV is also pretty amazing.
maviczap
17-12-16, 07:29 PM
I went out on my SV today for the first time in a few weeks as weather looked vaguely dry and remembered how much I like it. I am tempted to try the cheaper option of bar conversion and see if that gives me the lighter steering I'm after instead of what looks like quite a lot more to upgrade to the Triumph or even the still relatively new SV.
I was thinking about the Triumph bar vibration comments though and kept an eye on what sort of revs I use cruising. Most of the ride today when I was doing steady speed over distance I seemed to only be about 4000rpm. Do people ride continually with higher revs? Would the Street Triple need constant higher revs to cover distances at a decent speed? I can't imagine it would need high revs to cruise at 60 to 70mph?
I've been using the 250 single I picked up a bit more recently as I'm less fussed about getting it mucky and that has reminded me what real bar vibrations are like! Even 40mph for half an hour has my hands tingling!
Quimjuicemonkey is selling a curvy bar conversion in the for sale section.
Adam Ef
17-12-16, 08:01 PM
Quimjuicemonkey is selling a curvy bar conversion in the for sale section.
Cheers, but mine is a pointy K8.
Also budget has just got slightly less as my "to do" list for the 250 I'm overhauling has grown slightly. Just noticed that the previous owner had fitted two front tyres, neither of which are any good, especially on the back. No idea why I didn't spot it!
I went from an SV650S to a 2010 Street Triple R in black and gold. The difference is obvious, you're going from a bargain basement bike to something that's had much more R&D and effort put into it.
However, the grass isn't always greener...
The suspension, no matter HOW many times you hear it from others, is incredibly cheap. It's skittish at best and leave a lot of confidence hanging out your **** unless you're on anything other than super smooth tarmac. Personally, the engine note, at first, made me grin - the induction is raspy, but wait until that horrid engine whine starts to get into your brain and it's like nails running down a chalk board.
The seat is utterly woeful. I had to buy a Sargent seat and this transformed the bike. I had the suspension tweaked for me and while it made a bit of difference, it's still a cheap set of internals on the fork and a rubbish, rubbish rear shock, whichever way you look at it. So maybe put another £700 aside to have the forks revalved and buy a Hyperpro or Maxton rear shock.
Exhaust wise, if you go for the older model then the underseat exhausts weigh a metric tonne, so buy a lowboy and it not only improves the look of the bike by a mile, but it saves weight and lowers the centre of gravity, which I found helped sharpen up the line the bike liked to take around corners.
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I test rode one last year. I liked it but couldn't have lived with the awful whine it made.
Yeah, it sounds f'in awful. It's weird as my VFR750 has gear driven cams so it whines as well, but it's not remotely the same, the SV1000 has a whine to it as well...but again, much more likeable when coupled with that twin exhaust boom.
Another thing with the STR, the Arrow underseats with no baffle will drone like mad at about 3500rpm, which is where you spend most of your time on the bike unless you're wringing its neck. With the baffled in, it's only just a tad louder than the stock cans. The low boy I had (forgotten the brand TBH) was loud, I mean LOUD, it was actually quite rancid haha
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