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caved in and installed to try out.
what a pile of spytastic pish. just spent the past day turning off everything that is not needed.
talk about slooooow at shutting down and starting up, win7 is a good 5 times faster.
there are a few things i like but mostly its filled with bloatware.
installed 'classic shell' and things look much much better and easier to navigate :-)
Talking Heads
05-02-18, 09:52 AM
I binned Windows in 2007 and have used Linux ever since.
DarrenSV650S
05-02-18, 10:31 AM
I've never had an OS start up or shut down quicker than 10. Did you do a fresh install, or upgrade from 7?
The auto updates p me off. Especially when you want to do a quick restart and it starts installing them without asking
Seeker you can remove the advert tiles
No problems with it
Yes there's Lots of thing's to un tick.
But both our I7 processor and the AMD older Bulldozer run it fine.
Clean install on home made PC's
SV650rules
05-02-18, 10:52 AM
I binned Windows in 2007 and have used Linux ever since.
Good move - even the cute Penguin logo is better than windows shyte logo.
I used to be engineering manager in a large automated warehouse that ran on Linux, it ran very well and bulletproof stability, but I hate to think what it would have been like using any Microsoft product (I guess the complaints department would have been busy).
Microsoft and Google are better at spying than MI5, MI6, GCHQ, CIA and FBI put together.
I've never had an OS start up or shut down quicker than 10. Did you do a fresh install, or upgrade from 7?
The auto updates p me off. Especially when you want to do a quick restart and it starts installing them without asking
installed to a raid 0 partition and its a lot faster now. easy dual boot as well :-) top tip, although microsoft say that the free upgrade is finished its technically not, you can still upgrade using your old key from say win7 but you must instal the exact same equivelent OS. so if your using say win7 pro 64 you must install win10 pro 64 and you must do a fresh instal.
what i did like is the way microsoft will install the boot media straight to a thumb drive over the internet. it even works off usb3 thumb drives on usb3 ports :-)
not tried installing on the 'kodi' compluter i built with NVMe drive to see if it has the built in drivers to recognises the drive during instal
i'm testing a workaround just now that will let you choose updates just like win7. its in the admin templates.
Talking Heads
05-02-18, 03:47 PM
My wife has a Windows 10 work laptop which only gets used for occasional presentations.
It hadn't been out of its case for a couple of months so I got the job of making sure it was all updated and ready to go ahead of a forthcoming important presentation.
She didn't want it going into update mode and being rendered useless at a critical moment...
It took two full days including an overnight to get all the updates done.
Meters connection work around ?
I've been using W10 since the Beta and love it.
You pretty much need an SSD to reap the speed benefits though. On an SSD it's faster than Ubuntu that I have as a dual boot, in fact I hardly use Ubuntu, all the stuff people moan about you can turn off, I just leave it on though.
I binned Windows in 2007 and have used Linux ever since.
Not used windows since XP but recently bought a win10 tablet. Can't install Linux due to the non-standard hardware.
Gotta admit, I like it. It runs well on hardware I would normally have considered underspec'ed. That's a first for windows.
The defaults are a bit stupid and it takes ages to go through all the settings to get things the way I like, but this takes longer due to unfamiliarity and you can't just copy over config files like in linux.
For a sub-£200 machine, I'm blown away tbh.
Oh and the best thing? It can run bash!
garynortheast
06-02-18, 01:42 PM
I've been using W10 since the Beta and love it.
You pretty much need an SSD to reap the speed benefits though. On an SSD it's faster than Ubuntu that I have as a dual boot, in fact I hardly use Ubuntu, all the stuff people moan about you can turn off, I just leave it on though.
Exactly my experience as far as W10 goes. I'm using it on all our house machines and on this Linx 10 tablet ad it's very rapid indeed.
Exactly my experience as far as W10 goes. I'm using it on all our house machines and on this Linx 10 tablet ad it's very rapid indeed.
Mine is a Linx too. Amazing value.
garynortheast
06-02-18, 01:50 PM
Yep, I bought a refurb from Ebuyer. graphics cip died on the first one so they sent me another one with W10 already on it.
When 1709 was released I did a completely clean install from a flash drive. It runs like lightening now and with none of the driver issues I had before.
Good quality components it seems, Intel etc.
One beef I did have was the automatic assignment of 2 directories within "This PC" to my OneDrive.
I think it was Documents and one other, maybe Pictures. Still it was fixed with a quick google and a registry hack.
I didn't expect to be editing the registry within 10 minutes of switching it on...
i'm testing a workaround just now that will let you choose updates just like win7. its in the admin templates.
so far it works :-)
update for defender asking for me to download it.
maviczap
06-02-18, 08:46 PM
I've installed 10 on my media centre, after swapping C drive to an SSD, as it was bloomin sluggish on Win7
I've also updated my garage PC which already had a SSD hard drive, didn't notice much difference in speed, and I'm just getting used to navigating round it.
I have installed it on a bigger SSD and upgraded it to the 64 bit version as a clean install, for my main PC, but not swapped it with the current SSD which is still on Win7. I did this to beat the deadline for free installations, which doesn't seem to have finished.
My daughters laptop was also upgraded to 10
From what I've seen of all the various incarnations it looks ok, and I'll bite the bullet and swap the ssd in my main PC, and then I can upgrade the memory to more than the current 4gb limited by Win7 32bit on the current SSD.
now i have had a few days to play i can say its better than win7 in some ways.
HDD to HDD SATA3 file transfers are faster.
usb2/3 thumb drives file transfers are faster.
for some reason video playback via kodi or MPC-HC is a lot better, sharper and cleaner.
now the annoying part, even though i'm now the administrator instead of a user account i still dont have full control over the system even though i have granted full access and taken ownership of everything. seems like microsoft have locked stuff down. in win7 you could do as you pleased given the above.
turned off full updates of system, virus and drivers to semi e.g. it should ask me what i want to do instead of automatic. so far the virus does.
dont like the new games, i play solitaire a lot and the new one is complete rubbish. same goes for the calculator.
dont like the default GUI so installed 'classic shell' which makes it look more like a mix of win7 and xp. which makes it a looooot easier to navigate.
TBH if it were not for the fact i wanted to use the netflix app instead of a web page i would not have upgraded. the biggest reason for the netflix app was to integrate with kodi which i have done but still to test with a remote control.
You can get the old games here:
https://winaero.com/blog/windows-7-games-for-windows-10-anniversary-update-and-above/
Just keep a copy of the download cause every-now-and-then one of the updates will knock them out again
SV650rules
19-03-18, 02:57 PM
I am experimenting with a Raspberry pi 3 at the moment, £35 for the computer (had to find a monitor, mouse and keyboard from the junk cupboard plus a pair of earphones with 3.5mm jack). Downloaded Raspbian (Linux) free download and was gobsmacked at the programs that come with it, Chrome internet browser, Libre Office = equivalent of MS Excel, word, powerpoint, which will open and edit windows documents, also PDF writer and opener. Has 4 USB ports an ethernet socket and wi-fi and bluetooth built in, but best of all it has a built in adblocker, some sites complain about it but I ignore them, I am using it as my browser at the moment and it is just great not to have ads popping up all over. Pretty fast as well, uses an ARM processor and has 40 digital Input / output pins to control real world objects. The story of the raspberry Pi is interesting, it was in about 2006 that Computer science lecturers at Cambridge noticed a big drop off in incoming students knowledge of computers and programming, they got together with ARM (Cambridge based processor designers ) to put together a cheap ($25) computer that people could use to build up their knowledge, the first Pi the Pi Zero was actually given away with a magazine, they chose Linux operating system and to date have distributed over 19 million Pi's of various CPU performance and hardware configurations, they do not stop making older models when they bring out a new one because businesses and project people still buy them as they have based products on them, and their performance is ample for what they need.
Pi will run KODI (free download) and quality of media is surprisingly good.
People have used the Pi for some amazing projects, and Linux is far better than Windows. In fact I am so used to browsing without ads and rubbish popping up that I now find them doubly annoying when I use the windows based PC.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/
Yes but advertising revenue is part of the reason why people get paid for their work.
So do you feel it's fair.?
SV650rules
21-03-18, 09:50 AM
What I really hate is when adverts for things I have looked at appear when other people log on to their profiles (so my wife knows I have been looking at presents for her) - I know I can browse on windows browsers in 'incognito' mode but have to select every time. If the ads were discrete I would not mind, but some pop up and dance around the screen and other cover up parts of the stuff I am trying to look at until they are acknowledged - and you never know what you are triggering when you do that.
No I don't feel guilty about blocking ads, especially when a lot of them are badly behaved. And blocking unwanted stuff can also block the harmful stuff.
Talking Heads
21-03-18, 12:28 PM
Yes but advertising revenue is part of the reason why people get paid for their work.
So do you feel it's fair.?
If I was unable to block adverts on websites I simply would not use websites infested with adverts.
So the way I see it, site owners should be glad that I use an Ad-Blocker to enable me to tolerate looking at their content.
What I really hate is when adverts for things I have looked at appear when other people log on to their profiles (so my wife knows I have been looking at presents for her) - I know I can browse on windows browsers in 'incognito' mode but have to select every time. If the ads were discrete I would not mind, but some pop up and dance around the screen and other cover up parts of the stuff I am trying to look at until they are acknowledged - and you never know what you are triggering when you do that.
No I don't feel guilty about blocking ads, especially when a lot of them are badly behaved. And blocking unwanted stuff can also block the harmful stuff.
simple solution is clear cookies and history but save passwords on exit. its in every browsers settings. if you use history instead of bookmarks then dont use it.
i've been on the net that long that my brain ignores adverts on websites.
I don't use an ad blocker, but I do now manage to completely and utterly ignore them, rendering them ineffective. So what difference does it make what method you use?
All browsers come with pop-up blockers these days - which are also a method of advertising - so it can't be particularly frowned on.
simple solution is clear cookies and history but save passwords on exit
Simple solution is get her her own bloody computer...
Seriously though, it's surprising that this happens. Adverts are normally cookie based and cookies should not be common to different user profiles. You don't even need a different login - browsers like Chrome support multiple profiles under the same account - but need to be selected manually, obviously.
I have a pop up blocker.
But I do switch off to the adds on Web pages.
Odly my now TV box has no adds better the breaks.
SV650rules
22-03-18, 11:56 AM
I have a pop up blocker.
But I do switch off to the adds on Web pages.
Odly my now TV box has no adds better the breaks.
Watching stuff on catch-up is good because they take the adverts out, also with recorded stuff you can fast-forward through adverts at least. When watching live TV often mute the sound during ad breaks - because.....
1) They are too loud (they compress the sound towards the upper level of the volume)
2) They are just inane and annoying.
Talking Heads
23-03-18, 10:32 AM
The Humax Foxsat PVR I use has a good feature, it can skip forward and back by preset times.
I have skip forward set to 60 seconds and skip back set to 15 seconds.
So when watching a recording and it comes to an advert break, hit skip forward four times then if required use skip back to resume watching at the end of the breaks.
You get to be aware of how much time is given over to adverts, for example an episode of Homeland typically has not less than 16 minutes of advertising.
I rarely watch live TV now and absolutely will not watch live TV with adverts.
SV650rules
23-03-18, 12:07 PM
It struck us when living in Australia and we used to make VHS tapes of programs to send back to UK, we used to sit there and be ready to pause the recording for adverts. an hours program would shrink to 40 minutes. Our Virgin V6 box will fast forward for preset time - but only 30 sec for each button press at the moment, will have to see it it can be altered. It does another useful thing, it allows for people reaction time when fast forwarding playback and if you press play button as soon as you see the ads finish it starts playback about a second before the end of the ads, it can also record 6 programs and play one back all at the same time - awesome !
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