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egcSV650s
17-02-18, 01:56 PM
Afternoon everyone, just had my garage door fixed so can finally get my bike in there and just wondering what sort of extra security would you recommend to lock the door? Im not keen on the external defenders im more after something internal where you cant see it from the outside. Thanks

Teejayexc
17-02-18, 04:14 PM
Sit on a chair with a 12 bore!

SV650rules
17-02-18, 04:20 PM
What kind of door has garage got ? is it a steel up-and-over or double wooden doors ?

I fitted these to our steel up-and-over doors, you can drill the wood at the side and glue in the supplied tubes to fit them but I chose the hard way and put them into concrete floor with epoxy LOL
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/221174375033?chn=ps&adgroupid=48716125379&rlsatarget=pla-381910302461&abcId=1129946&adtype=pla&merchantid=113577816&poi=&googleloc=1007151&device=c&campaignid=974960635&crdt=0

for a pair of hinged wooden doors try one of these locking bars.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pad-Lockable-Drop-Security-Door-Window-Bar-Shed-Garage-Stable-Door-60x30-/361843388276?var=&clk_rvr_id=1443829003184&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=twenga&utm_campaign=twenga&utm_param=eyJlcyI6MCwicyI6OTcyMDIzNywiY2kiOiIwM2Fj OTQ4YzNlYWI4YTkzMWFkNzFjMDY5MDBmYWZmMSIsImkiOiIzNj E4NDMzODgyNzYiLCJ0cyI6MTUxODg4NDI5NSwidiI6Mywic28i OjE1MDAsImMiOjIwNTg5fQ%3D%3D&rmvSB=true

and lastly..
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=228512

Sir Trev
17-02-18, 04:29 PM
Put a large Beware of the Dog notice on the door.

I can understand that having a door guard/post/thingie may look ugly, and some will say it makes it look like you have something precious inside, but to a casual thief it's hassle and they're more likely to look next door instead. Low life opportunists with a screwdriver in their pocket are the most likely to cause you grief so making them look elsewhere is well worth it.

The other thing to bear in mind is keeping things covered and hidden. We get suspicious vans and recovery trucks down our road every day with the passenger looking very carefully into every garden and open garage door as they slowly drive by. Keep your bike out of sight, under a sheet or cover too to disguise the shape from snoopers.

SV650rules
17-02-18, 04:50 PM
Put a large Beware of the Dog notice on the door.

I can understand that having a door guard/post/thingie may look ugly, and some will say it makes it look like you have something precious inside, but to a casual thief it's hassle and they're more likely to look next door instead. Low life opportunists with a screwdriver in their pocket are the most likely to cause you grief so making them look elsewhere is well worth it.

The other thing to bear in mind is keeping things covered and hidden. We get suspicious vans and recovery trucks down our road every day with the passenger looking very carefully into every garden and open garage door as they slowly drive by. Keep your bike out of sight, under a sheet or cover too to disguise the shape from snoopers.

I am always careful to make sure my bike is not visible from outside even when I have garage door open, even if I only prop a large piece of cardboard in front of it, I try not to put garage lights on with door open. Call me a racist but if I hear the gipsy (pikey) scrap collectors electronic trumpet call approaching I shut the door toot-sweet (tout de suite).

egcSV650s
17-02-18, 05:30 PM
What kind of door has garage got ? is it a steel up-and-over or double wooden doors ?

I fitted these to our steel up-and-over doors, you can drill the wood at the side and glue in the supplied tubes to fit them but I chose the hard way and put them into concrete floor with epoxy LOL
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/221174375033?chn=ps&adgroupid=48716125379&rlsatarget=pla-381910302461&abcId=1129946&adtype=pla&merchantid=113577816&poi=&googleloc=1007151&device=c&campaignid=974960635&crdt=0

for a pair of hinged wooden doors try one of these locking bars.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pad-Lockable-Drop-Security-Door-Window-Bar-Shed-Garage-Stable-Door-60x30-/361843388276?var=&clk_rvr_id=1443829003184&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=twenga&utm_campaign=twenga&utm_param=eyJlcyI6MCwicyI6OTcyMDIzNywiY2kiOiIwM2Fj OTQ4YzNlYWI4YTkzMWFkNzFjMDY5MDBmYWZmMSIsImkiOiIzNj E4NDMzODgyNzYiLCJ0cyI6MTUxODg4NDI5NSwidiI6Mywic28i OjE1MDAsImMiOjIwNTg5fQ%3D%3D&rmvSB=true

and lastly..
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=228512

Its a up and over door so will have a look at the links you sent, thanks

Put a large Beware of the Dog notice on the door.

I can understand that having a door guard/post/thingie may look ugly, and some will say it makes it look like you have something precious inside, but to a casual thief it's hassle and they're more likely to look next door instead. Low life opportunists with a screwdriver in their pocket are the most likely to cause you grief so making them look elsewhere is well worth it.

The other thing to bear in mind is keeping things covered and hidden. We get suspicious vans and recovery trucks down our road every day with the passenger looking very carefully into every garden and open garage door as they slowly drive by. Keep your bike out of sight, under a sheet or cover too to disguise the shape from snoopers.

Someone a few doors down has the defender on and it doesnt look too bad but im not sure on them but its true what your saying about them just looking elsewhere. Yeah i always keep a cover over my bike even in the garage may be over the top but better safe than sorry

egcSV650s
17-02-18, 05:37 PM
Ill get them locks and do what you said about doing it into the floor as i havent got much space either side of the door anyway so will be better going in the floor and ill get that alarm from the thread you posted which SV650rules has. Thanks

SV650rules
17-02-18, 07:09 PM
You will need a 17mm masonry drill or a bit of a waggle with a 16mm one. I actually left about 5mm of tube above floor to stop water and dirt getting in the tube. Good thing about Enfield locks is that you can only insert and withdraw the key when bolt is either fully extended or fully retracted. You can use key from both sides so if you don't want keyhole on the outside of the door you don't have to, and all that will show outside is the spherical heads of the mounting bolts.

The garage alarm beeped a couple of times during the night a month or so ago, I put peanut butter down and it disappeared, then I put down a trap and some mice disappeared as well.

R1ffR4ff
17-02-18, 08:08 PM
I don't have an up-and-over but I saw a video about these,"Garage Defenders" which might be of interest,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vS4l0VkCI


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=garage+defebder&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR6.TRC2.A0.H0.Xgarage +defender.TRS0&_nkw=garage+defender&_sacat=0

punyXpress
17-02-18, 08:41 PM
If your garage is shown on StreetView, just check the current version doesn't show your bike !

egcSV650s
17-02-18, 10:23 PM
You will need a 17mm masonry drill or a bit of a waggle with a 16mm one. I actually left about 5mm of tube above floor to stop water and dirt getting in the tube. Good thing about Enfield locks is that you can only insert and withdraw the key when bolt is either fully extended or fully retracted.

The garage alarm beeper a couple of times during the night a month or so ago, I put peanut butter down and it disappeared, then I put down a trap and some mice disappeared as well.

Ah right great, good idea about the gap so no water gets in. Is the alarm easy to set up

I don't have an up-and-over but I saw a video about these,"Garage Defenders" which might be of interest,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vS4l0VkCI


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=garage+defebder&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR6.TRC2.A0.H0.Xgarage +defender.TRS0&_nkw=garage+defender&_sacat=0

Thank you, starting to change my mind on those defenders, might be a good idea

If your garage is shown on StreetView, just check the current version doesn't show your bike !

Haha yeah luckily you cant see my garage on street view

SV650rules
18-02-18, 09:46 AM
I don't have an up-and-over but I saw a video about these,"Garage Defenders" which might be of interest,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vS4l0VkCI


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=garage+defebder&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR6.TRC2.A0.H0.Xgarage +defender.TRS0&_nkw=garage+defender&_sacat=0


Problem with fitting a defender to our up-and-over door was that at least half the holding bolts would have been in tarmac drive and the rest very close to edge of concrete slab, not really a secure fixing. I would have had to install a concrete section especially for the holding down bolts in front of the door as the concrete slab for the garage only extends about 25mm past front of door when closed. When a bolt is near the edge of concrete it would only need a tap with a 4 pound lump hammer to shatter concrete.

Ah right great, good idea about the gap so no water gets in. Is the alarm easy to set up


The alarm is very easy to set up, you just need to pair the PIR transmitters with the receiver do it when they are next to each other in same room takes about 5 minutes tops - you can use receiver with batteries but better to buy the power supply option with the alarm shown (I bought a 'ding-dong' type driveway alarm very similar to the proper alarm on shown in my link but same maker to start with but the one shown in link which I bought after has either ding-dong or proper siren with flashing blue light (switch selected) which will sound until you switch it off). By using power supply you can plug it into normal 13amp timer switch and when power is on receiver (overnight maybe) alarm will sound, but when power is off it won't. By removing power from receiver it does not upset the pairing between transmitters and receiver. I plugged a short 13A extension lead with a 'power on' neon into my timer switch and then plugged power supply into it then i can see straight away when there is power on the alarm receiver.

egcSV650s
18-02-18, 10:24 AM
Great sounds pretty easy then, ill get one of those ordered. Thanks for your help

SV650rules
18-02-18, 10:40 AM
Great sounds pretty easy then, ill get one of those ordered. Thanks for your help

The PIR transmitters use 3 X AAA alkaline batteries each - you can check batteries are OK by a 'walk test' using the flashing blue LED on front of PIR. I covered the PIR case with black PVC insulation tape to disguise it a bit and left a flap of tape over the blue LED to stop it alerting someone that the PIR was there. You can buy more PIR of same type (1 by One) to pair with existing receiver or the PIR themselves can each be paired with up to 5 receivers - if that makes sense. You could even put a PIR or two outside garage to alert you if someone on the drive (which is what the device was originally designed for as a 'driveway doorbell).

I bought rechargeable 750mAh Panasonic Infinium batteries for PIR, they have low self discharge (are supplied charged) and are ideal for low drain applications like the PIR.. Normal alkaline batteries should last a long time though.

Brick walls reduce the range of transmitter - our garage is attached to house and alarm is in upstairs bedroom and that works OK.

pookie
18-02-18, 11:35 AM
My neighbour used a couple of pacri bolts on their door

https://www.locksonline.co.uk/search/search.php?zoom_query=pacri+bolts

egcSV650s
18-02-18, 11:44 AM
The PIR transmitters use 3 X AAA alkaline batteries each - you can check batteries are OK by a 'walk test' using the flashing blue LED on front of PIR. I covered the PIR case with black PVC insulation tape to disguise it a bit and left a flap of tape over the blue LED to stop it alerting someone that the PIR was there. You can buy more PIR of same type (1 by One) to pair with existing receiver or the PIR themselves can each be paired with up to 5 receivers - if that makes sense. You could even put a PIR or two outside garage to alert you if someone on the drive (which is what the device was originally designed for as a 'driveway doorbell).

I bought rechargeable 750mAh Panasonic Infinium batteries for PIR, they have low self discharge (are supplied charged) and are ideal for low drain applications like the PIR.. Normal alkaline batteries should last a long time though.

Brick walls reduce the range of transmitter - our garage is attached to house and alarm is in upstairs bedroom and that works OK.

Ah right thats quite a good idea to cover them a bit. My garage is seperate to the house and is brick walls so ill give it a try but should be ok

My neighbour used a couple of pacri bolts on their door

https://www.locksonline.co.uk/search/search.php?zoom_query=pacri+bolts

Yeah think i might get them locks aswell, was looking at them but was unsure if i had enough room to fit them

Heorot
18-02-18, 12:00 PM
If your garage is shown on StreetView, just check the current version doesn't show your bike !

Good thinking there. I checked mine but the view is from 2008, before I got the bike.

Sir Trev
18-02-18, 05:07 PM
Yeah think i might get them locks aswell, was looking at them but was unsure if i had enough room to fit them

If you want them I have a set of Pacri locks you can have. Used one of them on my old garage door (which was pants) after we moved to this house and took it off again when the door was replaced a few years later. Ping me a PM if you're interested. The set is just gathering dust at the moment as my new door has multi-locking points so I don't need them.

R1ffR4ff
18-02-18, 11:54 PM
Great sounds pretty easy then, ill get one of those ordered. Thanks for your help

Sent you a PM with some more options :)

SV650rules
19-02-18, 09:36 AM
Sent you a PM with some more options :)

Secret stuff eh, Russians not involved are they ?

R1ffR4ff
19-02-18, 10:40 AM
secret stuff eh, russians not involved are they ?

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NTECUK
19-02-18, 10:57 AM
Hasp and Clasp with a padlock.