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zombie
26-06-18, 09:30 AM
Please and thanks.

It was obvious on the K5. I can't see it on the new (2016) one!

ophic
26-06-18, 10:02 AM
I'm pretty sure late model pointies didn't have one. So I doubt the AL7 will either.

zombie
26-06-18, 10:05 AM
OK.. so can I adjust it at all?

zombie
26-06-18, 10:47 AM
Thanks for the replies.

That seems like a step backwards from Suzuki.

I have

- Revs dropping to 1k when idling
- Slightly jumpy acceleration
- More harsh engine braking

This has come on recently. I thought adjusting the revs might help. Maybe it is something else? The only thing I can think of is air filter, but that looks ok.

ophic
26-06-18, 10:53 AM
Within warranty period? Just take it to a dealer.

zombie
26-06-18, 11:05 AM
very good point. it is, by 3 days! better get on it...

Talking Heads
26-06-18, 12:13 PM
There should still be an idle adjuster screw... part number 2...?
https://www.bike-parts-suz.com/suzuki-motorcycle/650-MOTO/SV/2017/SV650A-L7-E19-/ENGINE-TRANSMISSION/THROTTLE-BODY/12461000/12461011/M/8005



Jerky low rpm running sometimes cured by throttle position sensor reset?

Sir Trev
26-06-18, 12:24 PM
I was going to suggest TuneECU but after a quick look it seems there are no Suzuki models listed. Shame, as it helps a lot of Triumph riders I've met.

Several other sites offer it though but I've no idea how good might be.

Bibio
26-06-18, 12:27 PM
you cant adjust the idle on any of the twin spark engines. if your idle revs are dropping it could be a faulty clutch switch or the more common fault on the new SV AL7 is the temp sensor.

simple to test the clutch switch. sit on bike with sidestand up and dont pull clutch in and start bike. does it start? if so then its the clutch switch.

zombie
26-06-18, 12:35 PM
Bibio

simple to test the clutch switch. sit on bike with sidestand up and dont pull clutch in and start bike. does it start?

done and yes it starts without pulling the clutch in. What do I do now?

Thanks!

Bibio
26-06-18, 12:45 PM
if its still in warranty then any suzuki dealer should replace it.

if not then the part number you are looking for is 57560-05A00 and should cost about £12-13. word of warning.. the screw that holds it in is a fekin nightmare, part number 57562-41G01 expect to pay £8-9 for that.

you might get lucky with the screw.

just measured the screw and its M3 x 20mm counter sunk.

ophic
26-06-18, 12:46 PM
Does that mean it will start in gear?

Not much of a safety feature if so.

Bibio
26-06-18, 12:51 PM
yes it will start in gear if the sidestand is up.

zombie
26-06-18, 12:53 PM
Thank you Bibio. And others. It is always an education!

OK to ride in the meantime?

Bibio
26-06-18, 01:02 PM
yes its fine to ride till fixed but you will stall at junctions if you dont keep a little revs up. dont leave it too long to get fixed as its part of the ecu clutch helper system.

Bibio
26-06-18, 01:05 PM
just a thought.. do you have aftermarket levers fitted?

zombie
26-06-18, 01:10 PM
standard lever (it is not the clutch span)

Talking Heads
26-06-18, 01:12 PM
simple to test the clutch switch. sit on bike with sidestand up and dont pull clutch in and start bike. does it start? if so then its the clutch switch.


Needs to be in gear for this test because in neutral it will start with the stand up.

zombie
26-06-18, 01:17 PM
Needs to be in gear for this test because in neutral it will start with the stand up.

It does NOT start if in gear with the sidestand up and clutch not pulled in.

Bibio
26-06-18, 01:20 PM
Needs to be in gear for this test because in neutral it will start with the stand up.

nope even in neutral the bike will not start. its a redundancy test by the ecu.

the bike will start with the sidestand down and clutch in when in neutral but will not start if the clutch is not pulled in.

to test the sidestand switch yes you put the bike in gear and sidestand down but you first make sure that the clutch switch is working. to do this you must bridge the clutch switch wiring to the harness.

test sidestand: bridge clutch switch wiring to harness, put sidestand down then try and start bike in gear.

test clutch switch: put bike in neutral and dont pull clutch lever, sidesatnd up or down.

ophic
26-06-18, 01:24 PM
If anyone rides a Honda, they behave a little differently. This is Suzuki specific.

Bibio
26-06-18, 02:17 PM
just checked and i stand corrected. suzuki have indeed changed the procedure to a new "easy start".

The Suzuki Easy Start System lets the rider start the motorcycle with a momentary press of the start switch without pulling in the clutch lever when the transmission is in neutral.

Talking Heads
26-06-18, 03:05 PM
Can't see why age would make a difference, so long as maintenance gets done it should be fine.
The electrics are not made in Italy...