View Full Version : Guns don't kill people...
...oh, really? Looks like this one tried to kill someone to me:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1064546833421271040
(admit it, you laughed)
...oh, really? Looks like this one tried to kill someone to me:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1064546833421271040
(admit it, you laughed)
That was a funny little staged scene :-)
I have quite a few guns, but haven’t killed anyone for ages.
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SV650rules
27-05-19, 08:23 AM
Where is the blood ? I didn't see any blood !
As Othen said, Nice little staged scene, and why would anyone film what he was doing, guessing blanks being used. Funny though, as long as anti-gun lobby don't think it is in any way convincing.
Best thing about guns ( even air powered ones ) is that they do a good job on those pesky grey squirrels ( and give native reds a chance ) who cause me to spent £££'s on metal anti-squirrel bird feeders that I could spend on extra bird food instead.
Where is the blood ? I didn't see any blood !
As Othen said, Nice little staged scene, and why would anyone film what he was doing, guessing blanks being used. Funny though, as long as anti-gun lobby don't think it is in any way convincing.
Best thing about guns ( even air powered ones ) is that they do a good job on those pesky grey squirrels ( and give native reds a chance ) who cause me to spent £££'s on metal anti-squirrel bird feeders that I could spend on extra bird food instead.
Of course people will think the staged scene is convincing, for many people (and most people in the UK) the closest they will have come to a real gun will be the PlayStation.
Anti-gun campaigners often think shooters are less intelligent (as per the caption with the staged clip), I think the same goes for anti-hunting, anti-motorcycling and so on. I suppose one day we end up with everyone spending all day laying on the sofa playing the games console rather than actually doing things (a bit like in The Machine Stops) - and all weighing 20 stone.
I certainly agree about shooting those pesky grey squirrels (and pigeons, and rabbits...).
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Sir Trev
27-05-19, 01:29 PM
I certainly agree about shooting those pesky grey squirrels (and pigeons, and rabbits...).
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I'm not going to wade in on the gun side of things but as for the invasive grey squiggles... Got two of these on their way to me as I have a feeling I have them in my loft.
https://www.trapbarn.com/product/fennmk4/
Knowing my luck the clank/squeek! will probably wake me up as much as the pattering of feet but hopefully it will deter them enough until I can find the way they're getting in!
Then I can get the tunnel coverings and leave the traps outside where they go back and forth all day to hopefully reduce their numbers further as they KEEP DIGGING UP MY VEG PLANTS!!!!! Little gits.
I'm not going to wade in on the gun side of things but as for the invasive grey squiggles... Got two of these on their way to me as I have a feeling I have them in my loft.
https://www.trapbarn.com/product/fennmk4/
Knowing my luck the clank/squeek! will probably wake me up as much as the pattering of feet but hopefully it will deter them enough until I can find the way they're getting in!
Then I can get the tunnel coverings and leave the traps outside where they go back and forth all day to hopefully reduce their numbers further as they KEEP DIGGING UP MY VEG PLANTS!!!!! Little gits.
... or an air rifle to get them when they are outside digging up your veg :-)
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chris8886
27-05-19, 03:05 PM
Then I can get the tunnel coverings and leave the traps outside where they go back and forth all day to hopefully reduce their numbers further as they KEEP DIGGING UP MY VEG PLANTS!!!!! Little gits.
I'm sorry Trev, but this did make me giggle a little.... ;)
yokohama
27-05-19, 03:09 PM
I had one of them in my loft a few years ago. It gnawed through a wooden soffit under the eaves, made a nest in the loft corner and ran around at night weeing everywhere and chewing electrical cables.
I baited a space in the garden with white chocolate kit-kat for a week and on Saturday, settled down by a bedroom window with an air rifle, leading to a most satisfying resolution of the problem.
Sir Trev
27-05-19, 03:48 PM
I just know Lady Poppy will say no to the air rifle option and The Monkey would have a fit. Part of me wants to get the humane traps but legally you're not allowed to let them go as they're vermin so you're meant to clobber them on the back of the head - easier said than done. Drowning is apparently inhumane and could lead to prosecution but would be so easy using the water butt behind the shed while they're trapped in a metal box trap. So, spring trap it is. The videos of these things in action look like they're very effective.
I had one of them in my loft a few years ago. It gnawed through a wooden soffit under the eaves, made a nest in the loft corner and ran around at night weeing everywhere and chewing electrical cables.
I baited a space in the garden with white chocolate kit-kat for a week and on Saturday, settled down by a bedroom window with an air rifle, leading to a most satisfying resolution of the problem.
:-)
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SV650rules
27-05-19, 05:45 PM
I had one of them in my loft a few years ago. It gnawed through a wooden soffit under the eaves, made a nest in the loft corner and ran around at night weeing everywhere and chewing electrical cables.
I baited a space in the garden with white chocolate kit-kat for a week and on Saturday, settled down by a bedroom window with an air rifle, leading to a most satisfying resolution of the problem.
The damage greys can do is tremendous, I hate them because they dig holes in the lawn to bury daffodil and tulip bulbs they steal from patio tubs, eat birds eggs and even chicks, and ringbark trees. Oh and did I mention they cost me a fortune in squirrel proof bird feeders ? I favour the air rifle solution, but if you are out at work most of the day then traps are maybe better as long as you put them off the ground so that hedgehogs or other innocent critters don't cop it.
I have found that for most rodents ( grey squirrel are rodents ) nuttella ( hazel nut spread ) is best especially as it has a irresistible smell and it sticks to traps or whatever you smear it on and they cannot carry it away, followed by peanut butter.
P.S. I think we went off topic....
.22 rimfire works well too. Hit them virtually anywhere and they die rather than be wounded.
.22 rimfire works well too. Hit them virtually anywhere and they die rather than be wounded.
Yes indeed. I find a .22” PCP air rifle very effective also, and with less danger of collateral damage. Mine has a 10 round magazine which is good if there are several of the pests, it is quiet enough such that they don’t realise what has happened until the first two or three are dead.
See... guns have their uses after all.
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timwilky
28-05-19, 07:32 AM
Hungerford, I lost my rifles.
Dunblane, my pistols went as well.
They said no guns = no gun crime. We said, if it is a crime to own a gun, then only criminals will own them.
Of course there is no gun crime in the UK now the legal owner have been forced to give up their guns!
hmm... it was supposed to be an amusing video not an introduction into wildlife extermination. :shock:
Hungerford, I lost my rifles.
Dunblane, my pistols went as well.
They said no guns = no gun crime. We said, if it is a crime to own a gun, then only criminals will own them.
Of course there is no gun crime in the UK now the legal owner have been forced to give up their guns!
Exactly the same - now we are only trusted to have shotguns and air guns, and I hear the nanny state is even trying to ban those in Scotland. Ho hum.
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hmm... it was supposed to be an amusing video not an introduction into wildlife extermination. :shock:
... only vermin: squirrels and rats (well, maybe a few rabbits and pigeons as well) :-)
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Exactly the same - now we are only trusted to have shotguns and air guns, and I hear the nanny state is even trying to ban those in Scotland. Ho hum.
Oh you can still own a rifle, you just have to jump though all sorts of hoops to get a firearms certificate.
Oh you can still own a rifle, you just have to jump though all sorts of hoops to get a firearms certificate.
Of course. A few mates have small bore rifles, but for me the nanny state has created more hoops than would be worthwhile. Shotgun ownership is still fairly straightforward (and has about the right amount of checks), but I can’t help thinking the controls on air guns are a bit daft (like having to collect via a gunsmith) for something limited to 12 ft.lbf (less than the energy of a golf swing).
Ho hum.
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Small bore is relatively easy to get: you just need to prove that you have a reason to need one and permission to use it over land where it's safe. Fortunately, I live in a rural area and farmers are willing to provide the permission. Having said that, I got rid of my centre fire rifle at the last renewal as it would have been almost impossible for me to meet the required permissions.
SV650rules
28-05-19, 03:02 PM
Another grey squirrel consigned to the great drey on the sky this afternoon ( acute lead poisoning ) - at least the eggs and chicks of the songbirds I have been feeding over winter and still feeding now will be safe :)
Another grey squirrel consigned to the great drey on the sky this afternoon ( acute lead poisoning ) - at least the eggs and chicks of the songbirds I have been feeding over winter and still feeding now will be safe :)
Well done.
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Sir Trev
31-05-19, 08:00 PM
My rat/sqiggle traps arrived today. My god are they vicious! Managed to set one without breaking a finger or three and then dropped a wine bottle cork on the treddle. Wow - it jumps nearly two feet in the air when sprung. No wonder they have a tether chain attached.
Will set them up in the loft tomorrow and see if I get any takers.
ethariel
01-06-19, 01:41 AM
My rat/sqiggle traps arrived today. My god are they vicious! Managed to set one without breaking a finger or three and then dropped a wine bottle cork on the treddle. Wow - it jumps nearly two feet in the air when sprung. No wonder they have a tether chain attached.
Will set them up in the loft tomorrow and see if I get any takers.
Just have the thought the traps are set as you nod off, that crack like a 5.56 coming through the wall at 2am is just the trap going off :)
SV650rules
01-06-19, 09:59 AM
Wow - it jumps nearly two feet in the air when sprung. No wonder they have a tether chain attached.
Will set them up in the loft tomorrow and see if I get any takers.
Make sure you use the tether and, if a rat ( or tree rat ) isn't caught cleanly on the neck they can drag the traps away - put a screw into a rafter or floorboard.
What bait are you using ? rodents find peanut butter or Nutella irresistable and they can smell it from miles away and find it in the dark. My brother had to put the traps in like a little canyon made with wood to guide the critters to the 'correct end' of the trap, otherwise they can get at the bait from the side or 'wrong end' and the results can be nasty.
Sir Trev
01-06-19, 05:59 PM
Have used a mix of crunchy peanut butter and supermarket own brand hazelnut choccie spread (I hate both) and made a box structure to make sure they come at the trap the right way. It's on a hefty baseboard which I have tethered it down to. Amazing what you can find on YouTube and in hindsight I should have got them with the traps. Was fun making one and I'll make a better one for the second trap now I have a better idea.
Just waiting for the clang now... In a way I hope I don't get one and the little baskets have moved on but we'll see.
SV650rules
02-06-19, 01:28 PM
At least you got decent traps most of them are not long enough and can catch critters like rats and squirrels on the nose and not the neck, very nasty.....
At top of the trapbarn website there is a link to guides page, here is what it says about grey squirrels. https://www.trapbarn.com/squirrel-trapping/
The jokes are also worth a look... https://www.trapbarn.com/rat-jokes/
Sir Trev
06-06-19, 08:58 PM
Trapbarn supplied my brace of traps as it happens. Very efficient things they are too. We defo have squiggles in the loft but as of this afternoon there is one less up there.
At least getting rid of the remains is easy - pop it up on the shed roof and two minutes later a Red Kite swooped down and carried it off.
Trapbarn supplied my brace of traps as it happens. Very efficient things they are too. We defo have squiggles in the loft but as of this afternoon there is one less up there.
At least getting rid of the remains is easy - pop it up on the shed roof and two minutes later a Red Kite swooped down and carried it off.
Very green.
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SV650rules
07-06-19, 08:06 AM
Bit of a treat for a Kite getting squirrel, 'what does it taste like?' - 'a bit nutty!'
keith_d
07-06-19, 08:38 AM
A hazelnut in every bite
garynortheast
07-06-19, 10:21 AM
I can tell you from my days as a meat eater some 3 decades ago, that squirrel is very tasty meat.
Sir Trev
07-06-19, 06:58 PM
I can tell you from my days as a meat eater some 3 decades ago, that squirrel is very tasty meat.
I'll take your word for that as I really don't feel like eating something I have caught in the loft...
shiftin_gear98
09-06-19, 05:41 PM
Gary was that your last meat meal? I think I'd reconsider my life choices if I was eating squirrel.
garynortheast
09-06-19, 09:38 PM
Gary was that your last meat meal? I think I'd reconsider my life choices if I was eating squirrel.
Ha ha! No, not my last taste of meat, but it is very tasty. Up until the last WW it was a bit of a staple in the rural British diet.
Sir Trev
10-06-19, 06:33 PM
I found the pretty small gap yesterday where the little baskets were getting in to the roof space and blocked it off with wads of twisted barbed wire. If I don't catch any more in the next day or so the problem is probably solved. Which means I can make some longer covers and set the traps down in the veg garden instead and start reducing the overall population. Will mean I get less of my crop dug up hopefully but don't tell Lady Poppy as she may not like me doing so...
SV650rules
10-06-19, 07:06 PM
Rodents ( grey squirrels are rodents like rats and mice, in fact squirrels should be renamed 'tree rats'), can get through surprising small gaps, a mouse can get through a gap as small as your little finger, some experts say a small as a biro barrel ).
Reducing the overall population of tree rats is my aim too, may get some of those traps.
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