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there might just be something to all the fuss.
my health has been ermm well put it this way it was difficult tying shoe laces and i felt miserable as fek. i finally gave in and went on a sort of diet. all i have been eating is lentil, leek and carrot Soup with seeded/wholegrain bread sometimes with a slice of very thin cheese sandwich.
been at it for less than two weeks and i have lost half a stone and i feel around 30% better already. i haven't used my angina spray for 2 days and i have a little more energy. today my nose is less blocked and i can smell again. i also take nitrate tablets and today i reduced my dose by half a tablet and i still have not use my spray.
my diet before was pretty good and i cooked fresh every night and occasionally a fish supper say once in two/three weeks.
no i'm not turning into a vegie but if the improvements keep going i will only eat meat rarely.
SV650rules
29-11-20, 06:49 PM
I know a few fat vegetarians .... and if not done properly can cause health problems, but veganism is worse.
shiftin_gear98
29-11-20, 07:43 PM
Bibs, glad you are feeling better.
Quorn mince... ermm no. thought i would give it a try and its like furkin sawdust. any vegetarians got a better substitute for mince?
garynortheast
20-12-20, 03:42 PM
Thaw and marinade the quorn mince before you cook it Bibs. The quorn chunks are very nice cooked with leek and mushroom in a bake or pie.
it was the ready to use stuff. if it were not for the texture i would have liked it. it reminded me of that realllllyyyy bad frozen mince you get out of farmfoods that i mistakenly bought years ago.
next up is tofu..
btw, i'm not turning into a vegetarian but i'm liking the health benefits. i have lost a stone, feel fitter and not always hungry.
daktulos
20-12-20, 06:40 PM
My wife is vegetarian, and likes quorn ... I'm not a fan myself (and apparently people can gain an intolerance for it). There really is nothing like meat, unfortunately. For a lasagne, I'll use half quorn mince and half minced mushroom. As Gary said, it really needs to be flavoured. Unfortunately, I like Tofu even less.
garynortheast
20-12-20, 08:44 PM
Tofu, even more than Quorn mince benefits from a good marinade for a few hours.
Nice one Bibs!
With not getting out quite so much this year my weight has crept up too much. I'm now at the weight I was when I had my last heart attack = 17st. The angina has niggled for a few weeks now.
daktulos
21-12-20, 10:26 AM
Tofu, even more than Quorn mince benefits from a good marinade for a few hours.
Cauldron sells pre-marinated tofu pieces, which actually taste quite nice, but I can't get past the spongey texture.
SV650rules
21-12-20, 10:56 AM
Soy products contain phyto-oestrogen - which is a ladies hormone, does not work well with testosterone.... If you boobs are getting bigger beware. When US cattle are injected with female hormones the greenies think its a very bad thing, but when soy is fed to the population in vast quantities apparently that is a good thing.
Adam Ef
21-12-20, 11:04 AM
Quorn mince benefits from a good strong stock adding to it. For bolognaise or chilli I use tomato puree instead of chopped tomatoes so that I can add the liquid in form of stock rather than tomato juice.
Adam Ef
21-12-20, 11:09 AM
.... If you boobs are getting bigger beware.
I've been eating it for years and still not managing to get those results :D
Craig380
21-12-20, 11:50 AM
The 'Oumph' brand chunks were excellent for stir-fries etc but they've been withdrawn from sale, apparently because traces of mustard were finding their way into the food that wasn't declared. It's a shame as in a chinese-style recipe, it was virtually indistinguishable from chicken.
Nice one Bibs!
With not getting out quite so much this year my weight has crept up too much. I'm now at the weight I was when I had my last heart attack = 17st. The angina has niggled for a few weeks now.
WAKEUP call Bri. you dont even need to loose weight you just need to cut out meat and other things like cheese.
ethariel
03-01-21, 11:00 PM
I have to admit I have just moved away from a meat based diet over to a more veg based one as well, 3.5 years of losing weight gone after 9 months of working from home, when you cant get your leathers you have had for a decade and a half done up any more you know it really has gone too far (That and riding in 2 degrees in Jeans was freaking cold)
well i was a pig over xmas and new year and put on half a stone.
I had got 5 kilos off and got down to 85 (13 stone 3lbs from 14 stone) by cutting out sugar and eating less bread, this took a year or so.
Unfortunately, with xmas and my wife's 50th a couple of days later, I'm back to 14 stone :)
Having said that, I'm not sure where the weight is hiding as it's not in my gut any more, my jeans still hang lower than my boxers waistband :)
[edit] After I'd left the Navy and was living alone I decided to go veggie (my dad's been veggie since a very young age and I thought I'd give it a go). I found that Indian foods, especially Gujarati (sp) dishes made it very easy to follow a vegetarian regime - something my dad has discovered 30 years later - he loves a veggie biryani now!
andrewsmith
06-01-21, 07:00 PM
[edit] After I'd left the Navy and was living alone I decided to go veggie (my dad's been veggie since a very young age and I thought I'd give it a go). I found that Indian foods, especially Gujarati (sp) dishes made it very easy to follow a vegetarian regime - something my dad has discovered 30 years later - he loves a veggie biryani now!
Oh a good veggie curry is epic. I'm lucky that my local does a cracking one
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Calix Lee
14-01-21, 04:54 AM
I always eat my meal with veggies. I feel like it balances everything up.
ethariel
14-01-21, 07:33 AM
Well 2 weeks into a meat free diet (and avoiding the majority of non meat animal based products as well), still plugging away, and I could murder for a bacon roll right now but that's life :)
Stomach settling down a bit more after a turbulent first 2 weeks that necessitated an open window 24/7.
What have I capitulated on so far? Red top milk is in, soy, almond and Oat milk is down the sink, that's just a NO.
Though I'm not doing this for an 'Animal Rights' point of view, just a lifestyle change to see if it makes a difference, hell I'll never stop wearing leather so no point being a hypocrite about it,
keep it up.. it does work.
for a test i made some BI frozen cod in batter with chips and tinned peas last night for my dinner. i'm still ill.. never ever again. i dont eat pre packaged foods so it was a real test of just how bad these things are. when i say i felt ill i mean really bad indigestion and i thought i was having a heart attack.
how people can live on that stuff i dont know. all i can say is if you do then learn to cook.
garynortheast
14-01-21, 05:45 PM
Well 2 weeks into a meat free diet (and avoiding the majority of non meat animal based products as well), still plugging away, and I could murder for a bacon roll right now but that's life :)
Stomach settling down a bit more after a turbulent first 2 weeks that necessitated an open window 24/7.
What have I capitulated on so far? Red top milk is in, soy, almond and Oat milk is down the sink, that's just a NO.
Though I'm not doing this for an 'Animal Rights' point of view, just a lifestyle change to see if it makes a difference, hell I'll never stop wearing leather so no point being a hypocrite about it,
We do what we feel able to do. I'm pretty strictly vegan in the dietary sense but like you, I still wear leather. Partly this is because I can't decide which is worse - wearing animal skin or polluting the planet with microfibres and plastic particulates from man made, synthetic materials.
keep it up.. it does work.
for a test i made some BI frozen cod in batter with chips and tinned peas last night for my dinner. i'm still ill.. never ever again. i dont eat pre packaged foods so it was a real test of just how bad these things are. when i say i felt ill i mean really bad indigestion and i thought i was having a heart attack.
how people can live on that stuff i dont know. all i can say is if you do then learn to cook.
I'm seriously impressed with both of you over this. Making the change to a more plant based diet is a hard thing to do when it's done quickly, so huge kudos to you for sticking with it.
I sort of drifted into it. Back in the eighties I reared, killed and butchered my own meat for quite a few years until I got fed up with the business of killing. I then ate just what meat my lurcher caught for me, so rabbit, pheasant, squirrel, and hare. When she got to old and her eyesight too poor to catch stuff, I stopped eating it, and became veggie around the mid nineties. Four years ago I made the final step and became vegan, an easy step from vegetarianism. Now, in my mid sixties, I'm probably fitter and healthier than at any time I can remember (but then I have trouble remembering what I had for dinner yesterday :p).
its not been that hard to change. i have always eaten veg (yes i really am a scotsman) as i was brought up to 'clear yer plate', only trouble is my mother turned vegetables into mush (no taste) and i hated them. i learnt to cook quickly and discovered that veg are great cooked properly. i have also been a catch'n'cook but not to the extremes of gary.
what i'm having difficulty with is substituting meat products like mince as i have always associated veg as a 'side portion'. i really should look more on the bbc cooking site for more veg inspired dishes.
at the moment i'm trying to loose weight and get fitter so sticking to soup. but when i'm at somewhere i like then i'll get more adventurous.
Luckypants
15-01-21, 11:18 AM
Partly this is because I can't decide which is worse - wearing animal skin or polluting the planet with microfibres and plastic particulates from man made, synthetic materials.
Let me help you with that. It is always this:-
polluting the planet with microfibres and plastic particulates from man made, synthetic materials.
ethariel
15-01-21, 12:21 PM
I have done my fair share of hunting over the years from about the age of 13 to 18, starting on rabbits and finishing on deer (never ever look a 14 point stag in the eye - always wondered why my Uncle was happy to track but not to pull the trigger any more, I found out the same way he did).
Going vegetarian was a spur of the moment decision, no planning (I had to empty my freezer into the back of a friends car last week, everything including a nurtured stock of haggis and square sausage was taken away - not because I didnt trust myself, but there was no point in wasting it, even frozen food does not last forever)
It's hard sometimes but I have to give it a good chance and see how i feel in the longrun
Some veg like cauliflower, broccoli and mushrooms are a no no, i have never ever liked the taste or the texture but otherwise I'm just managing to stirfry most everything else :)
I have a couple of boxes of ready to drink HUEL choc shakes (Vegan friendly and gluten free) to toss in when i feel the need for a snack or as I have been doing, drink down for breakfast (as bacon rolls are off the menu), keeping an eye on the rough calorie intake v's what I was doing with a 2-5kg a week meat habit.
I'm not strictly veggie but eat very little meat at all, usually only if invited to a friend's for dinner, maybe once a month (my bubble). My main weakness at home is the odd pepperoni pizza. I eat a lot of veg of all colours, and equally salads and varied fruits and nuts. It really is good for us to eat a lot of veg, it's what our digestive systems are primarily suited to.
We survive because of the bacteria inside our guts, and so many folk have a depleted or very restricted range of bacteria, and taking antibiotics is a disaster for your friends inside you. The bacteria do a lot of the heavy work in converting foodstuffs into useful things, and they thrive on plant matter usually.
I'm certainly not an obsessive about diet, just make sure I get a balanced mix with the essentials and lots of varied plants and fibre.
A friend who is a lot more critical than I am about organics etc did introduce me to the subject of the combination of vitamin D and K2 (read about it), and I do use cod liver oil (+ vit D) capsules, and K2 comes from fermented veg (sauerkraut etc) or cheese, or your bacteria make it inside you.
I checked the label on some Tesco bran flakes the other day, and they have an awful lot of the necessary odds and ends, admittedly quite a few are as fortifications but they are in there.
Bowel cancer is a big problem in our society for fairly clear reasons.
garynortheast
15-01-21, 02:39 PM
Let me help you with that. It is always this:-
We do what we feel able to do. I'm pretty strictly vegan in the dietary sense but like you, I still wear leather. Partly this is because I can't decide which is worse - wearing animal skin or polluting the planet with microfibres and plastic particulates from man made, synthetic materials.
I think you’re right Mike, but I still struggle with the conflict.
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