Win10 version 2004

[Seeker]

Anyone using this win10 version: "2004" on their laptop? Win10 forced this feature edition on me today and I immediately had problems. Whenever the laptop enters sleep it either shuts down completely or "hangs" and requires the power button to be held down and a reboot.
Conversely if you ask for a shutdown it doesn't complete the process. I've reverted back to "1909" for now and everything works fine. The laptop is a Lenovo 330S, a couple of years old.

[garynortheast]

Stick the latest iteration, 20H on there. I have it on all my machines including this old Linx tablet and it works fine.

[Seeker]

Stick the latest iteration, 20H on there. I have it on all my machines including this old Linx tablet and it works fine.

I just googled the 20H2 version and people are complaining about shutdown and sleep errors with that one too. There's also an issue with the versions that followed 1909 with it trying to defrag SSD each boot up, the 20H2 fixed that but brought back the shutdown issue (for some).

[garynortheast]

I must say I’m at a loss as to why folks have so many problems. On the whole I’ve found W10 to be fine, one or two bits I’m not so keen on but no real tech or programming issues in all the time I’ve used it.

[daktulos]

I must say I’m at a loss as to why folks have so many problems. On the whole I’ve found W10 to be fine, one or two bits I’m not so keen on but no real tech or programming issues in all the time I’ve used it.

One of the problems is that when you shut it down, it hibernates bits of the O/S for a faster boot, so for the first time ever, turning a Windows machine off and on again isn't the best way to fix it.

It's probably hardware-specific, my wife used to have an HP which suffered from it and needed a three finger button combination to get it to shut down completely. Her new Lenovo is fine.

I try not to use Windows myself, so all I have is second-hand frustration.

[Calix Lee]

Wow, my laptop only lasts for 3 years and yours is a 2004 model.

[garynortheast]

Wow, my laptop only lasts for 3 years and yours is a 2004 model.

2004 is the version of Windows 10. The number signifies the release date. 20/04 = 2020/April.

[ethariel]

I'v run a mix of my Games PC and 4 laptops (2 dell, 2 HP) on different builds/Insider program for the past couple of years without any issues whatsoever on or off network, it really does look like particular hardware builds from a manufacturer are prone to issues where many others suffer no issues at all.

I have read horror stories on the boards and tried to replicate settings on my hardware but to no avail, so it's (imho) just down to bad luck.

[Seeker]

I must say I’m at a loss as to why folks have so many problems. On the whole I’ve found W10 to be fine, one or two bits I’m not so keen on but no real tech or programming issues in all the time I’ve used it.

I have no problems generally with Win10 other than M/soft's constant "improvements" which never seem to make any positive difference in performance but frequently detrimental ones.

I have 2 laptops and a desktop running Win10. The desktop is fairly old but has an SSD and an early gen dual core CPU, it has the latest "feature edition" Win10 and shuts down/sleeps no problem. I can't remember if it's 2004 or 20H2.

My Toshiba Satellite laptop is a veteran, circa 2010, originally on Win7, has run ubuntu for a while (and android briefly) now on Win10 1909 on SSD - works great.

My Lenovo 330S is the newest (2 or 3 years), it was a mistake and I don't like it. It's running an AMD Ryzen 5 and works well on Win10 1909 but doesn't like 2004 - suffers from shutdown and sleep problems. Apparently 2004 and 20H2 share the same core - windows update is still trying to seduce me back with 20H2 but I'm reluctant after the last debacle.
I've been searching for a fix for the sleep/shutdown issue but there doesn't seem to be a consensus - fast startup and obsolete drivers are the usual quoted suspects.

[yokohama]

It might be worth updating. You can always do a system save and roll back if it doesn't work out.
I'm on a Lenovo 500s with an I5 processor. It updated to 20H2 last weekend, which it took some time. I'm not having any problems so far. The laptop always takes a minute or so before it properly shuts down but it's always been like that.

[Seeker]

Well I tried again, deleted windows update cleanup files, restarted, quit Malwarebytes and allowed it to update to 20H2. Same problem - when you ask for sleep the screen blanks but the power remains on and it won't come out of sleep, you have to force shutdown - as soon as I go back to win10 1909, everything works fine.
I checked the video drivers (ok) and the network adaptor drivers (ok).
One comment I found was that if this update has another update to do at the same time (or if it does it overnight!) it may fail. WTF.
There were no logged errors for the update.
I've run sfc/scannow and DISM with no errors. I've now disabled fast start but I did it after returning to 1909 so it'll need to wait until I muster up some enthusiasm to try again

[Seeker]

Success on attempt #5. The laptop has an AMD Ryzen 5 CPU with built in Radeon Vega mobile graphics, the Lenovo site is still talking about Win10 1807 so not much help there. I went to the AMD site and downloaded their "Adrenaline" software which installs a much later video driver. When I went to document the changes I found an older text file of mine indicating I'd had Win10 1909 sleep issues, too, caused by the sound driver which was fixed by rolling it back. This time I brought it back and the problem is fixed but I fell into the trap of making 2 changes so now I don't know which one actually fixed it. Oh well. :rolleyes:

edit - I should add that this is 20H2 not 2004 as per original title (2004 and 20H2 share the same core, apparently. 20H2 is the most recent)

[littleoldman2]

Thank goodness they don't use Windows OS in Air Traffic Control

[garynortheast]

I would probably have to say that this may not be the fault of Microsoft, but more to do with various hardware and software providers failing to issue up to date drivers in a timely manner.

[Seeker]

I updated my 11 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop to 20H2 without a hitch. Just think, in April Microsoft are dumping the Edge browser and switching to a Chromium based one - and there's another feature edition coming out at that time so I get to do it all over again.