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Has anyone used a throttle assist? One of these things:
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/462524
They work like an oil filter wrench, they slide easily in the closing throttle direction but tighten and grip in the opening throttle so can be locked to allow your wrist to rest and so you don't need to grip the throttle (as firmly).
After my wrist break, I get intrusive tingling/numbness in my fingers and thumb after 15 miles or so and I'd like to ride further (in more comfort). I've looked at my hand on the throttle and there doesn't seem a lot of room without the gizmo getting in the way.
They're inexpensive so I may get one anyway but if anyone has experiences, please share.
SV650rules
13-06-21, 11:21 AM
Here is a video - i worry that if it was twisted out of the way the palm rest could actually interfere with the front brake lever operation
https://youtu.be/sADgCP3BnT0
and another type
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XawFVdI1do
Yes, I've seen those videos but never spoken to anyone that had used them for a while. The Scottoiler Crampbuster is discontinued although the US company Crampbuster still makes various versions of the gadget.
I've ordered one, I'll see how it goes - my concern is that I ride back lanes and I'm frequently changing speed/gears, I suspect they're more suited to motorway riding, we'll see.
I need to change my riding technique - I've never been much of a tank gripper which means I'm frequently resting my weight on my wrists - I know it's a bad habit but after 50 years couldn't be bothered to change. Now might be a good time ;) I need to get some kind of tank protection for the Zed, my knees on the SV seem to hit the plastic frame covers so it's not so urgent.
SV650rules
13-06-21, 11:56 AM
Yes, I've seen those videos but never spoken to anyone that had used them for a while. The Scottoiler Crampbuster is discontinued although the US company Crampbuster still makes various versions of the gadget.
I've ordered one, I'll see how it goes - my concern is that I ride back lanes and I'm frequently changing speed/gears, I suspect they're more suited to motorway riding, we'll see.
I need to change my riding technique - I've never been much of a tank gripper which means I'm frequently resting my weight on my wrists - I know it's a bad habit but after 50 years couldn't be bothered to change. Now might be a good time ;) I need to get some kind of tank protection for the Zed, my knees on the SV seem to hit the plastic frame covers so it's not so urgent.
I fitted some eazi-grip tank pads on the sides of my AL7 tank, but like you I found my knees were nowhere near them - I would have left them on as protection from buckles on clothing etc when wheeling the bike around but I had chosen clear grips and was not happy with the stress marks in plastic and a few bubbles showing, so took them off again. If I fitted them again I would choose black ones.
I fitted some eazi-grip tank pads on the sides of my AL7 tank, but like you I found my knees were nowhere near them - I would have left them on as protection from buckles on clothing etc when wheeling the bike around but I had chosen clear grips and was not happy with the stress marks in plastic and a few bubbles showing, so took them off again. If I fitted them again I would choose black ones.
How easy were the Eazi-grips to remove - their website says they're designed to be permanent and you may get paint damage if you remove them.
R1ffR4ff
13-06-21, 06:49 PM
I've had,"Vista" cruise control on all my Motorcycles for around 15 years. Not easy to find a UK suppler now :(
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283739049639?epid=171164324&hash=item42102a4ea7:g:fDIAAOSwnQFefKWx
Simple and effective. Can be fitted without taking the grip off if the grub screw and spring are removed carefully and then device wrapped around/fitted and then replaced.
https://i.imgur.com/J5sWfXi.jpg
I also use fatter gel grips to help with my arthritis in a couple of fingers.
SV650rules
13-06-21, 07:40 PM
How easy were the Eazi-grips to remove - their website says they're designed to be permanent and you may get paint damage if you remove them.
I used a bit of heat, here is FAQ from eazi-grip site about a bit of heat helping, Bits of glue get left on the tank - I may have used redex or turps or something ( maybe 'sticky stuff remover' ) to clean that off and then autoglym super resin polish
https://www.eazi-grip.com/faqs/
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I've had,"Vista" cruise control on all my Motorcycles for around 15 years. Not easy to find a UK suppler now :(
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283739049639?epid=171164324&hash=item42102a4ea7:g:fDIAAOSwnQFefKWx
Simple and effective. Can be fitted without taking the grip off if the grub screw and spring are removed carefully and then device wrapped around/fitted and then replaced.
I also use fatter gel grips to help with my arthritis in a couple of fingers.
Obviously it works for you, can you override it in a panic situation? I found a few ideas that hold the throttle but I'd be a bit nervous.
This one demonstrates that even with it activated (might be too strong a word) it's possible to shut the throttle or increase your speed but the price is insane (imho) £100 ish It pushes a friction pad against the side of the throttle/switch housing.
https://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/
I have fitted Grip Puppies to increase the, ahem, girth of the grip but I was looking for grips that could offer more friction between the glove and the grip.
I googled best grips for carpal tunnel (I may have too much time on my hands) and the Oury grip is recommended:
https://www.lizardskins.com/product-details?h=single-compound-oury-road-black&c=slip-on_handlebar_grips&t=oury_street&v=0
redtrummy
14-06-21, 09:52 AM
I may be missing the obvious here but my cub (1967) came fitted with a screw and friction plate on the twistgrip that could be set to old any throttle position. I thought these had been banned because if you fell off the rear wheel could continue spinning at high revolutions, becoming a safety hazard in its self .
R1ffR4ff
14-06-21, 10:15 AM
Obviously it works for you, can you override it in a panic situation? I found a few ideas that hold the throttle but I'd be a bit nervous.
Yes. It's a breeze to use. After a few times using it you don't even think about it when flicking it on and off :)
Another technique is the, "Thumb Over" on straight traffic free roads e.g bring the thumb on top of the controls when safe to do so to stop the grip position.
Oxford do Fat grips,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=fat+gel+motorcycle+grips&_sacat=0
but mine were just some cheap generic ones.
Plenty to look at on AliExpress,
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?trafficChannel=main&d=y&CatId=0&SearchText=gel+motorcycle+grips<ype=wholesale&SortType=default&page=2
Even some SV badge ones :O
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000275440463.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3b244 707hfebje&algo_pvid=5eb787e8-46b5-4835-a519-970233a043c7&algo_exp_id=5eb787e8-46b5-4835-a519-970233a043c7-33
More Ali searching and I've found this throttle stop for you,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002759795632.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.72 f17840KHg68h&algo_pvid=90b2b99b-92b3-40cc-bb35-40817203271b&algo_exp_id=90b2b99b-92b3-40cc-bb35-40817203271b-5
Dead cheap. Worth a punt :)
I may be missing the obvious here but my cub (1967) came fitted with a screw and friction plate on the twistgrip that could be set to old any throttle position. I thought these had been banned because if you fell off the rear wheel could continue spinning at high revolutions, becoming a safety hazard in its self .
I don't know if they're illegal, I couldn't find any info. The MOT says that the throttle must work "normally". There aren't any disclaimers in the adverts not that that means much. Years ago I fitted rubber bands between the throttle grip and the switch gear and, after one ride, removed them - it's disconcerting when the throttle doesn't shut off when released. I don't know whether R1ffR4ff's can be overridden without "deactivating" it, the Atlas one allows the throttle to be adjusted or shut without pressing anything.
I'll try the Oxford throttle assist first, thanks for your inputs.
R1ffR4ff
14-06-21, 11:44 AM
On mine you can still use/close the throttle when it's gripped it's just stiff so it doesn't lock it as such just grips it :)
I use the crampbuster type throttle hand "rest" on my NC. It makes for much more pleasant touring if doing long sessions on main roads and motorways, especially abroad where roads aren't packed full like here in the UK.
Very simple to just rotate out of the way when not required, negotiating towns etc.
It's as simple as you could want really. Not a big outlay if you decide you don't like it. Just as most things like this, it might seem a bit odd at first when you're conscious of it being "new", but after a few hours you just get used to it.
SV650rules
14-06-21, 01:11 PM
I don't know if they're illegal, I couldn't find any info. The MOT says that the throttle must work "normally". There aren't any disclaimers in the adverts not that that means much. Years ago I fitted rubber bands between the throttle grip and the switch gear and, after one ride, removed them - it's disconcerting when the throttle doesn't shut off when released. I don't know whether R1ffR4ff's can be overridden without "deactivating" it, the Atlas one allows the throttle to be adjusted or shut without pressing anything.
I'll try the Oxford throttle assist first, thanks for your inputs.
I would certainly want the throttle to close itself when released, the Oxford thingy seems to allow normal operation except you can use palm of hand to keep throttle in position, but when throttle is released it will close itself...
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