Wax or Lube??

[Morpheus]

Hi

I use Lube on my cahin but it is a mess!!! The wheel gets quite filthy and well it is a dirty job to apply!! I have used the wax before and that was a lot neater and cleaner.

My question is, is the lube really that much better than the wax?? What do the experts think??

Regards
Morpheus

[Iansv]

Lube for me :wink:

[fizzwheel]

*passes ian tube of KY*

oh right sorry wrong sort of lube

I have one thing to say, get yourself a scotoiler and then you never need worry again

[Iansv]

Yeah agree there, as soon as I need new chain and sprokets i'll be getting one

[jonboy]

I've become a convert to simple engine oil. It keeps the chain in tip-top condition and although there'a fair amount of fling, it wipes off very easily.


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[chazzyb]

I've become a convert to simple engine oil. It keeps the chain in tip-top condition and although there'a fair amount of fling, it wipes off very easily.


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How do you apply it Greg? I've had a Loobman oiler sitting in a box for a year now that I really must fit - any year now.

[SteveH]

This was so not the topic I thought it was :shock: :shock: wax? lube? oh dear

[Balky001]

Wurth's clear chain lube is excellent and minimal fling. I always found wax attracts too much grime and get's the chain dirty more quickly.

How do you apply it Greg? I've had a Loobman oiler sitting in a box for a year now that I really must fit - any year now.

Whatever you do, don't apply it with the chain running whilst up on a paddock stand, like i did. Very painful when part of your hand goes round the rear sprocket! :shock:

[Cloggsy]

Hi

I use Lube on my cahin but it is a mess!!! The wheel gets quite filthy and well it is a dirty job to apply!! I have used the wax before and that was a lot neater and cleaner.

My question is, is the lube really that much better than the wax?? What do the experts think??

Regards
Morpheus

SCOTTOILER :!: :!: :!:

[Big Bad Al]

If you want to use engine oil - get a plastic oil can from halfords. The body takes about a 1/2 pint of oil and the screw on bit has a plastic - reinforced bendy tube with a metal nipple. The handle has a trigger that "squirts" the oil out the nipple allowing you to apply easily to inaccessible places. I've been using this for a while but have now also started using wax as well. I try and oil / wax once a week.

Scottoiler is probably a better way to go....

[snoopy]

Grease over oil all the way. Car accessory wholesalers do huge tubs for £2 and its utter brilliant. I'll get the name for you when i'm in the shed tomorrow.

[fraser01]

I had the scotoiler fitted to the bike with the hugger, so many people rate it and anything where i have to do less work and can be out riding is always a bonus. :thumbsup:

[Guy H]

I use the Wurth dry lube. Excellent stuff, no fling at all lasts 500+ miles (dry) When it's very wet I tend to use WD40 and just spray it on after a ride.

5K miles on it now and looks like new :-) Only cleaned it once, and that was to get off all the horrible wax that Suzuki had applied which had become full of grit & muck.

[jonboy]

How do you apply it Greg? I've had a Loobman oiler sitting in a box for a year now that I really must fit - any year now.

I use a piece of rag and pour a little oil on and then wipe it thoroughly over the chain to clean it one section at a time and this also lubes it nicely. Needs to be done every 100 miles though. Easiest way is to quickly remove the chain-guard (30 secs?), clean and apply oil (3 mins?) and then refit chain-guard. Say 5 mins in all.

As for grease that Andrew Charmely suggests, it's intriguing but I haven't tried it and would be interested to find out what the advantages/disadvantages are.


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[carelesschucca]

lube is easier, but was is good if you can be bothered to use it when you come in straight after a ride and use it on a warm chain (wax melts and slides through the links) then again u should do the same with Lube, I've been using stuff from Gerick and its seems to do the job, its Prof dry lube or something (its to late to hit the garage and check)

[a1a]

This is worth a try if its available to you. Maxima Chain Wax, fling resistant special paraffin base and is o-ring safe. Cut a piece of cardboard to put under the hot chain. Spray a small section of chain at a time. It cleans off the road grime and puts a fresh coat of chain wax down. Allow chain to set up for 10 to 15 minutes before riding. I use it once every 500 miles after I'm done riding for the day. Good Stuff!
Cheers Richard

[rictus01]

See

http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=12915

says it all really.

Cheers Mark.

[Peter Henry]

Motul spray on lube works for me. Simply use your normal method of cleaning the chain then spray on using straw thingy. I always leave bike overnight before riding after maintenance to chain, this reduces drastically the fling. :wink:

[Warren]

i h8 wax, so messy,


get a glitter pen, empty out the glitter glue, and fill it with engine oil,


all you gotta do is brush it round the chain.

[camhops]

I just spray the whole chain down with WD-40 piece by piece until completely free of all dirt and grime. Then I use motor oil to lube the chain. I take a rag and pour a large amount on it and then whipe.

[BillyC]

Wax does the job, but as mentioned, it is really very messy. The wax tends to accumulate dirt and filth, which turns the wax into a grinding abrasive paste - which obviously advances the wear on your chain and sprockets. Then when it comes to cleaning your chain, sprockets, swingarm etc, you'll need a really good degreaser to clean off the gunge left by the wax.

Oil has advantages - it washes dirt away from your chain as it flows through it, and it's much easier to clean off the chain. Yes, it may have to be applied more often than grease - but that's no bad thing. Yes, it tends to fling a little over your rear wheel... again, not really a bad thing - it'll probably save you ~£100 on chain and sprockets.

It's widely thought that fitting a Scottoiler will double the life of your chain and sprockets - thus easily covering the cost of itself very quickly.

If your pockets are a little tight, then follow the advice given here... don't go out and buy expensive oil or wax sprays... they contain hardly any lubricant for their size or cost. Regularly apply old engine oil - keep it in an easy dispenser under your seat (preferably sealed! :shock: ), and just apply it every few days or so.

[Biker Biggles]

Complete agreement.Old engine oil applied with a squirty thing and spread thinly with an old small paintbrush.Works well and appeals to the tight bustard in me :D

[Biker Biggles]

I did 16000 miles on a zx6r with hardly any chain wear,and Ive done 4000 miles on a zx9r with no wear at all so far,and about 10000 miles on the sv,chain about half worn,all using old engine oil.Stuff yer expensive lubs and waxs,Ill stick with what woks.

[Biker Biggles]

Back to school for spelling lessons,the word is works

[northwind]

Yet another vote for the Scottoiler... It's easier and works better, so where's the downside? Bit of fling from time to time and that's it.

BTW, if you read Rictus's other thread there I don't think they do the free replacements anymore- when I got the bike the oiler was really badly located, so I had to order a few parts for it- they sent them out free along with a filler tube (which HG hadn't given me with my oil, the scumbags), but when i moved it again at the end of last year they charged me for all the bits. Still reasonable mind...

[Spiderman]

lube is easier, but was is good if you can be bothered to use it when you come in straight after a ride and use it on a warm chain (wax melts and slides through the links) then again u should do the same with Lube, I've been using stuff from Gerick and its seems to do the job, its Prof dry lube or something (its to late to hit the garage and check)

Yeh i use this stuff too, great for dry riding in my experience as it dont do jack about the rust in the wet. Even tho it says it does.

I've been using castrol wax recently and the chain needs a serious clean now.

The best lube i used was clear and sticky as spray glue. It was given to me by the guy who fixes my punctures...he also races at the weekends.
Its Silkolene Pro and i have not seen it in the shops, but if i do i'm gettin me some more of that.

Like the HG stuff but better.

I'm off to buy some parrafin now as the weathers nice out and ideal to be doing a few little jobs on the bike ;)

[leatherpatches]

I use a piece of rag and pour a little oil on and then wipe it thoroughly over the chain to clean it one section at a time and this also lubes it nicely. Needs to be done every 100 miles though.

Every 100 miles! :shock:

That's every day and a half for me.

I use non-fling wax of any variety and the chain and sprockets have done 13k so far with little sign of wear. However, the chain has recently started getting a bit loose so could be on its way out. I wax the chain every couple of weeks to a month and clean every third wax. Seems fine.