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Viney
18-10-04, 08:36 AM
..Spinning around like kylie in gold hotpants i was this morning. Why?

Diesel! First and last time that going to happen. I have been on the floor too much now, so Doris is up for sale.

Still i am walking and talking. Ache a little though.

Bike, well, the R&G's doen what they where meant to do, coming off with nothing more than a broken rear brake leaver, and for some strange reason a busted screen.

Had enough of this biking malarky, so going to take my chances on the train.

*Bows, exit stage left*

Gforceuk
18-10-04, 08:40 AM
:(

simon-temple
18-10-04, 08:45 AM
Sorry to hear about the crash, good to hear you're still in one piece though.


How about you fix the bike, keep it in the garage and try the train for a few days\weeks then see how it feels.

I've crashed a few times and never wish to repeat it. But then I have spent 3 years without a bike and it was **** to say the least. Getting back on the road was like a new lease of life (sounds cheesy but true).

the_runt69
18-10-04, 08:46 AM
Sorry to hear it Viney, But risking the trains on my bit of the railway, thats a bit drastic, I cancel the things so dont expect any favours. Why do you think I ride to work. But I've found some new hazards this week.
Wet cardboard boxes on right turns, really make you think about keeping the back wheel on the floor.
And just to make it sick, was going into the New cross one way system and ran over a dead squirel lying in the road and nearly binned the bike.
H

Akula
18-10-04, 08:50 AM
..Spinning around like kylie in gold hotpants i was this morning. Why?

Diesel! First and last time that going to happen. I have been on the floor too much now, so Doris is up for sale.

Still i am walking and talking. Ache a little though.

Bike, well, the R&G's doen what they where meant to do, coming off with nothing more than a broken rear brake leaver, and for some strange reason a busted screen.

Had enough of this biking malarky, so going to take my chances on the train.

*Bows, exit stage left*

Im sorry to hear that m8, but that is exactly the reason i sold up, ive slipped a few times and had a twitcher moment, plus as iv'e said the other muppets using the road. Id rather have my life and the family than pleasure on the bike. I sold the bike on Friday and got my car the same day 2.2 DTi Vectra. The last ride was horrid knowing it was the last time i was going to ride (a bike) for a long time gave her a blast then got in the car and i was off. I miss it and ive only been off the bike a few days so i hope your prepared to MISS it.

Martin (Akula)

chutz
18-10-04, 08:53 AM
sorry to hear that dude.

Don't rush into selling it...you may change your mind and you will get more money for it if you sell in the spring.

fraser01
18-10-04, 08:57 AM
Viney,

You can't sell it until you have done the ride out on the 31st....you organised it, so you have to ride it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:wink:

(there get out of that one) :lol:

splke
18-10-04, 08:57 AM
Steady fella
glad your'e ok
:(

Viney
18-10-04, 09:04 AM
..Spinning around like kylie in gold hotpants i was this morning. Why?

Diesel! First and last time that going to happen. I have been on the floor too much now, so Doris is up for sale.

Still i am walking and talking. Ache a little though.

Bike, well, the R&G's doen what they where meant to do, coming off with nothing more than a broken rear brake leaver, and for some strange reason a busted screen.

Had enough of this biking malarky, so going to take my chances on the train.

*Bows, exit stage left*

Im sorry to hear that m8, but that is exactly the reason i sold up, ive slipped a few times and had a twitcher moment, plus as iv'e said the other muppets using the road. Id rather have my life and the family than pleasure on the bike. I sold the bike on Friday and got my car the same day 2.2 DTi Vectra. The last ride was horrid knowing it was the last time i was going to ride (a bike) for a long time gave her a blast then got in the car and i was off. I miss it and ive only been off the bike a few days so i hope your prepared to MISS it.

Martin (Akula)
I know what youa re saying. I wont miss it to be honest. The 1st couple of years where good fun, then it just got to the point of another ride to work, another ride around the same roads in kent/sussex/surrey etc. My passion has always been four wheels, so i think i'll stick to them form now on. Now, there ws no need to buy a diesel vectra you know, i mean DIESEL!!!!! :wink: :lol:

Jabba
18-10-04, 09:08 AM
Jeez............hope that you stop aching quickly.

Please don't give up riding............. :cry:

Itching 2 go
18-10-04, 09:13 AM
you cant do it ian you only just fitted the new radiator although does this mean i can wear the badge of suki's guardian angel :wink:

fizzwheel
18-10-04, 09:14 AM
sorry to hear about your off, hope your OK

Cloggsy
18-10-04, 09:15 AM
:shock: Though we'd see the last biker down for a while :(

Hope you're OK fella :?:

Viney
18-10-04, 09:21 AM
you cant do it ian you only just fitted the new radiator although does this mean i can wear the badge of suki's guardian angel :wink:

Yeah, you can have the badge mate.

Nope, totaly made my mind up. You have a PM on its way. :D

timwilky
18-10-04, 09:25 AM
had a twichy moment myself yesterday, the smile on my face turned to a look of pure terror in nanosecond. managed to stay upright but the road stank of deisel when I stopped to compose myself.

Cut short my ride and limped home scared that any residue may have stayed on my tyres and I was about to slide down the road.

I am glad you are ok and the bike is not too badly scared

simon-temple
18-10-04, 09:26 AM
How about you just ride off road. Not neccessarily on the dirt but on a track away from diesel and cars? Sell the bike get a track bike and have fun that way. Then you get to have the best of both worlds.

Just a thought. I bought a DR350s to do that same with on friday. So I shall mostly be getting we and dirty this winter :D but my big stupid grin should keep me warm. :D

Johnsilver
18-10-04, 09:30 AM
Awful luck - sure does happen doesn't it? Don't listen to anyone else - only you know how you feel - and don't be pressured into doing the Viney's 31/10 by bike. I am sure everyone would be disappointed if you didn't come along - in summat 4-wheeled, though. All good wishes, mate.

22
18-10-04, 09:37 AM
glad to hear your ok, get back on the bike, dont let it beat you

Cronos
18-10-04, 10:01 AM
Sorry to hear about the off.

It's a shame you're giving it up, but if you've made yur mind up then you've made your mind up. :(

Viney
18-10-04, 10:09 AM
Its just one of those things. I have lost the passion for biking. I sort of lost it at the beginning of the year after the spin on the roundabout. This morning just sealed the deal so to speak.

Flamin_Squirrel
18-10-04, 10:17 AM
:(

I hope you're sure you want to give up biking... was only a couple of months ago you said to me "so you came off and probably will again, your not hurt and the bike still goes so dont worry about it". Still, you seem pretty sure about it :?

Hope you'll still come on the rideout for one final blast :!:

Iansv
18-10-04, 10:25 AM
argh mate, Sorry to hear bout the off....

It sounds like you've made your mind up but take some time to think it thru, you may end up regretting not having the bike...

You gotta at least do the end of year!! :(

Ping
18-10-04, 10:28 AM
d'oh... :(

Warren
18-10-04, 10:42 AM
:evil:

Amanda M
18-10-04, 10:42 AM
:( Sorry to hear about your off.

Take it easy folks!

M65
18-10-04, 12:41 PM
Glad you're alright after the off. Not good hearing about these sort of things, especially after all the Kill Spills campaigns. :roll:

Be safe out there folks

jonboy
18-10-04, 01:21 PM
Really sorry to hear this Ian, it comes as a real shock to the system when something like this happens. As a lot of other people have suggested, cool off mentally for a few days and then reassess the situation. Biking's too good to quit, try and work out if there is any way you could have spotted the diesel and if so, well next time you'll be better prepared.

This time of year the roads turn to sh*te so watch out all, summer's gone and we all need to be extra vigilant as slippy surfaces are now the norm till spring.


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Itching 2 go
18-10-04, 01:27 PM
As a lot of other people have suggested, cool off mentally for a few days and then reassess the situation......try and work out if there is any way you could have spotted the diesel and if so, well next time you'll be better prepared.

.i still cant explain completely why i came off which really p*sses me off but you just have to get up and carry on. although after speaking with ian i know its just a catalist in his decision to quit

howardr
18-10-04, 01:39 PM
I have lost the passion for biking.

Glad to hear you're OK. This ain't a dig, but you NEVER lose the passion for biking - I can only think you didn't really have it to start with.

Good luck on 'the other side' - just don't cut me up on a roundabout :evil:

(sorry if this sounds harsh - I just hate to see someone lose the faith)

Viney
18-10-04, 01:55 PM
I have lost the passion for biking.

Glad to hear you're OK. This ain't a dig, but you NEVER lose the passion for biking - I can only think you didn't really have it to start with.

Good luck on 'the other side' - just don't cut me up on a roundabout :evil:

(sorry if this sounds harsh - I just hate to see someone lose the faith)
I totaly disagree. You can loose the passion for anything. If its in your blood, then its a different matter. i have met loads of wondeful people over the years that i have been on two wheels. I like the comerardary(sp?) of it all. The 1st 3 or so years i loved it. Always organising bike rides, going out with mates, living for the bike so to speak, hell 35000 miles says that i enjoyed riding, but this year, my heart just isnt in it. Just my thoughts.

simon-temple
18-10-04, 01:56 PM
hmm that does sound a bit harsh, I know what you mean, but still.

You'll do what you want, I hope you have fun with whatever choice you make.

OK, now I'll get off the liberal fence...

ya wuss :D (joke I promise)

Flamin_Squirrel
18-10-04, 02:07 PM
Perhaps you should tuck Doris away for the winter and get back on in the spring?

If you clock up most of your miles on a difficult commute in 'orrible weather you're never going to enjoy riding as much as you should. Maybe if you take a break and come back when the weather starts to improve and you can ride your favorite roads without having to be somewhere you might well remember why you got a bike in the first place?

Hope you'll stay on the board and come to meets either way :!:

Viney
18-10-04, 02:19 PM
Perhaps you should tuck Doris away for the winter and get back on in the spring?

If you clock up most of your miles on a difficult commute in 'orrible weather you're never going to enjoy riding as much as you should. Maybe if you take a break and come back when the weather starts to improve and you can ride your favorite roads without having to be somewhere you might well remember why you got a bike in the first place?

Hope you'll stay on the board and come to meets either way :!:

What is there to enjoy about riding nowadays. I will end up seriously injuring myself one day, and personaly, i dont want that. Im not disciplined enough to 'calm down', one of the reasons that i still have the SV and not something larger. The bike is a commuting tool. The by product of weekends out and about where fun. I havent been out on her at weekends for months now. Well, the last ride was with Swiss and Suki. I can alway buy another bike in the future if i choose to.

howardr
18-10-04, 02:32 PM
If [risk] > [enjoyment]
then
"get rid"
else
"keep"

Peter Henry
18-10-04, 03:47 PM
Really sorry to hear about your experience,however think it through for a while and then decide. That diesel is one bad element to find on the road.I know it is bad for you guys as due to the climate in the U.K. it often stays damp on the road for some time.
Over here it does tend to evaporate but there is a noticeable residue that remains and even this has an unwanted affect on your grip. I get REAL nervous when I see it and try to adopt my entry lines to avoid it. A simultaneous two wheel mini slip a couple of weeks ago saw me cut short what would normally be a round trip of around 100km purely because it shook me up so much,(and I have never been nervous on a bike!) I turned around and limped my way home at a snails pace. :cry:

amarko5
18-10-04, 04:44 PM
Its just one of those things. I have lost the passion for biking. I sort of lost it at the beginning of the year after the spin on the roundabout. This morning just sealed the deal so to speak.


Southern soft git :shock: :P :lol: :lol:

only kiddin mate :wink: you and only you can make the decision :thumbsup:

but just one thing, I have a feeling in a few years we will see viney on a bike again. (it just never leaves you) (EVER).

enjoy the four wheels for a while but I am betting we will see you on a bike again.

best wishes mate


Mark D.

Moo
18-10-04, 05:25 PM
Sorry to hear about your off aleast your alright.

jonboy
18-10-04, 05:45 PM
A simultaneous two wheel mini slip a couple of weeks ago saw me cut short what would normally be a round trip of around 100km purely because it shook me up so much,(and I have never been nervous on a bike!) I turned around and limped my way home at a snails pace. :cry:

It's a good job your leathers tuck into your boots then Peter isn't it. :lol:


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ArtyLady
18-10-04, 05:50 PM
sorry to hear of your tumble - I think I know how you feel - It took me several weeks to get over surviving a severe highside on my bandit - (tar banding on a sharp bend in the wet :cry: ) luckily somehow after my backside left the seat it came back down and I rode through it but the force of it broke my mirror fixing :shock: dont know how Id be if I actually came off though :roll:

As for losing the passion - I understand that - I had horses for years and was passionate about dressage but just got fed up with it the end - it does nothing for me now at all :(

Scoobs
18-10-04, 05:53 PM
Glad you're OK mate. Sorry to hear what happened. I love riding the bike, but sometimes I sit and think to myself is it worth it. It probably isn't but it is too tough to give up at the moment. Seriously though THE TRAIN!??! Are you completely barking. Surely there must be another option. I did the train (so to speak) for 3 months from Portsmouth to Basingstoke and it was just the pits. So bad I can't find words infact. If your mind is made up then I am sure no-one here will try and convince you otherwise. However, it would be good if you popped in from time to time. Your wealth of advice and experience has been invaluable. Good luck mate.

northwind
18-10-04, 06:45 PM
Viney, only you know what's right for you... But a little time off could be for the best rather than jumping right off and into a sale... Conveniently, this is also a bloody awful time to try and sell a bike, so if you're not needing the money <now> then it makes economic sense to stick Doris (people who name their bikes, AARGH!) in a garage till the spring. Gives you a chance to change your mind as well- which works both ways, if you do change your mind then you've saved yourself a fortune, and if you don't, then you'll never hae any uncertainty that you've done the right thing.

northwind
18-10-04, 06:47 PM
And if you still want the cameraderie- buy a trailer, and you can follow SV Ecosse rides around as our support vehicle. You'll always be in demand :)

Viney
18-10-04, 06:57 PM
Scoobs, the train for me mate isnt as drastic as some. It takes 10 mins more by train to my current workplace, than its does if i take a 'normal' ride in. Im lucky that i have a bus stop outside my house to go to the station, then the train stops outside my office. Plus you get to look at all the ugly birds on the trai....er, see what you mean. i think i'll walk :?

Scoobs
18-10-04, 07:19 PM
Scoobs, the train for me mate isnt as drastic as some. It takes 10 mins more by train to my current workplace, than its does if i take a 'normal' ride in. Im lucky that i have a bus stop outside my house to go to the station, then the train stops outside my office. Plus you get to look at all the ugly birds on the trai....er, see what you mean. i think i'll walk :?

Sense of humour retained = Check :lol: :lol:

fraser01
18-10-04, 07:22 PM
:lol:

Viney, so you got any plans in the pipelines?

(not Viney the white van man)

Stig
18-10-04, 07:26 PM
Hats off to you Vinney, if you really do decide to quit. I wont try to persuade you against quitting. But I will say that it's now winter and biking is not as enjoyable as in the summer (for some). It's easy to get disheartned at this time of year. Can I suggest that you put the bike in the garage and wait for the good weather to return. If you still don't get the feeling for it, then fix her and flog her. You'll get a better deal when the sun starts to shine again.

Everyone knows what I was thought I thought about me and biking after my "big scare" but it as soon as I was back out of hospital my mind had changed. (Yes it IS in the blood for me).

Whatever you decide, best of luck with it. If you do decide to go back to a cage, then do me a favour, STAY OUT OF MY WAY. :lol: :wink:

Big Bad Al
18-10-04, 07:31 PM
I get a real sense of sadness when an experienced rider like you decides to quit. I consider myself a newbie and look to this site for advice, so it knocks my confidence in what I'm doing when I read of the fatalities, very bad accidents and even minor spills resulting in guys like you deciding enough is enough. I think it's because I spend so much time mentally justifying to myself why I commute everyday on the bike instead of taking buses and trains or even pumping pedals in the car that when I read this stuff, I have to go thru it all again. It's easy to say don't give up - only you know if you could have possibly avoided the spill by riding slower, taking more care etc. Anyone who hasn't come off totally unexpectedly can't possibly understand the feelings you must have that your life is out of your hands in certain circumstances. Anyhow sorry to see you go - just my thoughts on the matter. Glad you are ok and all the best.

kinesin
18-10-04, 10:24 PM
:(

No much to say that's not be said. Sorry to hear your leaving

But glad your ok!

Viney
18-10-04, 10:37 PM
Not leaving you fools, i'll just be the one trying to knock you all off in my volvo ;)

fraser01
18-10-04, 10:43 PM
Volvo drivers...they are maniac's....esp in the square shaped ones...try and run everyone off the road... :lol:

chutz
18-10-04, 10:45 PM
will your twin Renes fit the volvo dude? May be able to understand you if they do :lol:

Viney
19-10-04, 07:44 AM
Volvo drivers...they are maniac's....esp in the square shaped ones...try and run everyone off the road... :lol:

:D Be affraid, be very affraid....oh angon, i have a round'ish one.

Chutz, no....however, the S40 is going up for a chip and tune once the bike is sold. 140 become 185hp...nice. Target will be 200hp

bluebell
19-10-04, 07:55 AM
Sorry to hear about your 'off' but glad you are o.k.

Sudoxe
19-10-04, 11:33 AM
Doh! Just caught up with this.

I'll be sad to see you go, no more scares of another sv racing up behind me on the catford one way. :(

Keep in touch
Dan

Scoobs
19-10-04, 11:42 AM
Volvo drivers...they are maniac's....esp in the square shaped ones...try and run everyone off the road... :lol:

:D Be affraid, be very affraid....oh angon, i have a round'ish one.


They don't do roundish ones. You've been had mate.

RenamedMonkey
19-10-04, 12:19 PM
Surprising.

Viney
19-10-04, 12:32 PM
Volvo drivers...they are maniac's....esp in the square shaped ones...try and run everyone off the road... :lol:

:D Be affraid, be very affraid....oh angon, i have a round'ish one.


They don't do roundish ones. You've been had mate.

Trust me, it has curves. Its an S40 :)

Moriarty
19-10-04, 05:12 PM
Sorry to hear about the off - but it's good to hear that you're OK and that the crash bung investment stood up to scrutiny.

Sorry also to hear that you're giving up the two-wheel game but hope to see you out and about a couple more times before you wave goodbye to the old girl.

jonboy
19-10-04, 06:14 PM
Sorry also to hear that you're giving up the two-wheel game but hope to see you out and about a couple more times before you wave goodbye to the old girl.

Don't talk about Debs like that, it's disrespectful. :lol:


(Sorry Debs! :oops: )


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Dicky Ticker
19-10-04, 06:34 PM
Sorry to here about your mishap Ian but aslong as your O.K.thats what matters I understand your feelings regarding biking as I,ve been there but after 20years I,ve still come back to it and probably enjoying it more now as it is purely for pleasure and I don,t feel put under pressure from anybody----just doing my own thing at my own pace

HOPE IT DONT TAKE YOU 20YEARS

Cheers MARK

sexysi
21-10-04, 03:51 PM
I have said this loads of times, as everyone knows. But i'm still there riding. I've had 3 big crashes so far,
1. 50mph into a car and wrote the bike off.
2. Nice little slide into one £2000 worth of damage.
3. Forced off by some w a n k e r cutting me up in the rain. £2,000 of damage.

But I love the bike, the wife and the kids and really really hate the train, even though it's cheaper.

So still riding, It is ******* when it happens, but Vinyl everytime you sit on the train next summer you'll see the odd bike going past on the road etc etc and you'll think that was cool!
Put the bike away for 6 months and get it back out in the spring, when the diesel is all dry and start again.
sexysi

Viney
21-10-04, 05:17 PM
Its like this. I have no where to store the bike. I may miss it but wont miss the rain, the cold, the cutting up, the didging pedestrains, the taxis, the fact that you have carry your gear around, the fact that you sweat your gonads off in the summer, the other riders that think you are lower than them because you ride a bike!! If i come back, then i will buy something different.

CoolGirl
21-10-04, 05:19 PM
Sorry also to hear that you're giving up the two-wheel game but hope to see you out and about a couple more times before you wave goodbye to the old girl.

Don't talk about Debs like that, it's disrespectful. :lol:


(Sorry Debs! :oops: )


.

Now you boys seem to have totally got the wrong idea. When the DVLA make me give up my MG, I shall have pride of place as Viney's front seat beetch. Now how do we go about blinging up a Volvo? :shock:

Viney
21-10-04, 05:36 PM
Sorry also to hear that you're giving up the two-wheel game but hope to see you out and about a couple more times before you wave goodbye to the old girl.

Don't talk about Debs like that, it's disrespectful. :lol:


(Sorry Debs! :oops: )


.

Now you boys seem to have totally got the wrong idea. When the DVLA make me give up my MG, I shall have pride of place as Viney's front seat beetch. Now how do we go about blinging up a Volvo? :shock:

Yeah, 8pokes tounge out at all the gay bikers

You cant bling a volvo, 20 " chrome spinners & hydraulic suspension, just aint gonna go. We'll just tint the windows so no one notices us ;)

Treacle
21-10-04, 06:29 PM
Dont forget wax jackets and the labradors. :lol:

Flamin_Squirrel
21-10-04, 07:59 PM
Dont forget wax jackets and the labradors. :lol:

Dont you have to age 20 years too? :shock:

Ed
21-10-04, 09:12 PM
Dont forget wax jackets and the labradors. :lol:

Dont you have to age 20 years too? :shock:

No. My BIL has done it by wearing green plus fours with red socks.

Stig
21-10-04, 09:39 PM
Its like this. I have no where to store the bike. I may miss it but wont miss the rain, the cold, the cutting up, the didging pedestrains, the taxis, the fact that you have carry your gear around, the fact that you sweat your gonads off in the summer, the other riders that think you are lower than them because you ride a bike!! If i come back, then i will buy something different.

I guess for some people biking aint in the blood. All of the above seems like fun to me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (remember who's telling you this :wink: )

kinesin
21-10-04, 10:00 PM
Dont forget wax jackets and the labradors. :lol:

PMSL :lol:

thank you... :notworthy:

amarko5
21-10-04, 10:46 PM
Dont forget wax jackets and the labradors. :lol:

PMSL :lol:

thank you... :notworthy:

and the flat cap and grey hair :wink: ohh and i nearly forgot the driving gloves tan leather palms and white string backs :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

Viney
22-10-04, 07:29 AM
ohh and i nearly forgot the driving gloves tan leather palms and white string backs :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, forgot about them, can i have em back...cheers dude :P

As for the Labradors, its NOT and estate, it dont have a roof box, its not the square one, but i will knock you all off...bloody motorbikes ;)

Jabba
22-10-04, 09:16 AM
.......... the didging pedestrains..........

What's this - a new sport? Can anyone play? :D

howardr
22-10-04, 09:33 AM
I'll get you a box of tissues for the rear parcel shelf. :P

Iansv
22-10-04, 09:37 AM
Don't forget your nodding churchill dog

http://www.qas.com/uk/customers/images/logos/churchill_lg.jpg

jimmy4237
23-10-04, 09:10 PM
And if you still want the cameraderie- buy a trailer, and you can follow SV Ecosse rides around as our support vehicle. You'll always be in demand :)

Is that why I have a van and bike trailer Northwind??? I quite happy to be the scottish support vehicle. Just pay me the diesel money..

I was in that frame of mind too Viney when I ran wide on the last SV Ecosse rideout and hit the grass banking :oops: :oops:

My dad was ****ed off the say the least, and was threatening to turn the SV into scrap with the blow torch and angle grinder :shock: :shock: after he had picked me up from Perth A&E.

I was seriously thinking of getting the SV repaired and then selling the bike too, because I had hurt myself too much. Shoulder joint, right knee, and right hip got the rough treatment, but I was back at work within a week. Still couldn't move pallets with a pallet truck, but could drive the artic. Getting in and out of the cab was good fun and sore... :?

Ever since the last "off", I have lost confidence in my cornering, but I stayed off the bike for a month, and then got back on. The riding bug was still there..... I am still slower than my mates now on local runs.

The fear of coming off again and giving myself more serious injuries still haunts me, hence the slower riding, but I still get out on the bike to keep the practice up.

The bug will bite you again sometime in the future.

northwind
23-10-04, 10:00 PM
Yup, I can totally relate to that... Though the only time I've ever considered giving up on biking was when my XV125 kept on braking down in the ****ing rain :)

Iansv
25-10-04, 12:28 PM
Totally with you there jimmy,

My accident was back in June and I still don't have confidence back like I used too....

Its crap but I still enjoy riding, just slower than b4

Stig
25-10-04, 08:54 PM
Totally with you there jimmy,

My accident was back in June and I still don't have confidence back like I used too....

Its crap but I still enjoy riding, just slower than b4

I'm getting there I guess. I am determined that it will be fun again if I keep at it. Don't think I will ever be like I was before. But then that will probably be a good thing

Ed
25-10-04, 09:42 PM
I'm hoping to buy a bike this week - a winter hack ER5 & will buy something a bit more exciting come the spring, but the seller lives down on the farm in the middle of nowhere, I don't even know if it's in England or in Wales (Shropshire/Powys border anyway) but the river's flooded and you can only get there on a Massey Ferguson grrrrrr