Extra Security ?

[Warren]

just wondering . . .
if you came back to your bike and found that someone had looped their chain through your chain - to make it harder for someone to stick it in the back of a van . . . would you be annoyed ? or glad ?


i would be glad :)

[Anonymous]

have no opinion one way or the other, but then i dont use a chain or anything. but i suppose its quite a nice thing to do but bet they are not considering protecting your bike just their own :lol:

[Gforceuk]

i'd be well p*55ed off that i had to wait for them to get back to the bike before i could be on my way...

[Anonymous]

but if it was thru your chain you wouldnt have to wait would you :oops:

[Warren]

i'd be well p*55ed off that i had to wait for them to get back to the bike before i could be on my way...

no , chain through chain. . . so you both have your own chain and lock so you can both unlock it and unloop it thought the other persons locked chain.

[DeeJay]

Wouldn't see a problem with it, but can't say i'd be glad... but not annoyed either...

[Sid Squid]

There's a scheme called "Lock It To Me", it deals with this very issue.

I'll try to find the link.

[Gforceuk]

doh.. lol

didnt read it right.. :oops:

[Cloggsy]

TBH it makes sense (as long as it is only through the lock... What difference would it make :?:

[Warren]

There's a scheme called "Lock It To Me", it deals with this very issue.

I'll try to find the link.

yeah , you pay a tenner - and get a list of people who are signed up already.

personally i think it would be better to do it for free -
just like put a cross on your tax disc somewhere small and discreet. so other people know that you dont mind.

saves you carrying round a book of licence plate holders - and paying a tenner.

[Stig]

Yup have seen this scheme, personally I think its a good idea, added security for your bike and you don't even have to pay for it.

The lock it to me website is a good idea but isn't getting promoted enough.

So HERE'S (http://www.lockit2me.co.uk/) my little reminder

[timwilky]

I wouldn't mind. I don't use a chain. but assumming you had linked your chain to something secure. (lamp post etc) when you disconnect your chain his bike is now chained to nothing. Doesn't strike me as being very secure for him. He would probably be better off chaining himself to something more permanent.

[Mogs]

I would be quite pleased, any added security has got to be good, the method would be working best in places where there is nothing to chain to. Having said that I would avoid such locations.

What erks me more is other bikes parallel parked so close to me I can't get to the LHS of my bike, forcing me to get on from the right :roll:

[Stig]

I would be quite pleased, any added security has got to be good, the method would be working best in places where there is nothing to chain to. Having said that I would avoid such locations.

What erks me more is other bikes parallel parked so close to me I can't get to the LHS of my bike, forcing me to get on from the right :roll:

come and park in London, that is a regular occurrence, and normally its the damn scooter riders that squeeze their bikes between two other bikes where there is barely enough room to walk through :x :x :x

If it happens to me now, I pick the scooter up and put it back down outside the bike park zone :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[splke]

Always do it when i am in town :P

[Viney]

I just leave my bike with the keys in. Cant be arsed with all this ecurity malarky!

[Stig]

Always do it when i am in town :P


What :?: move the scooters or park in impossible none existant spaces :?:

[cosmiccharlie]

always a good idea there is a scheme that encourages this , also enables you a little discount on your insurance

http://www.lockit2me.co.uk/

[Moriarty]

It's a good idea and a good scheme but I'd be fearful that someone would forget to unlock their chain and attempt to ride off while damaging both our bikes. Perhaps this is unlikely, but I know that I've tried before to move my bike while leaving the disclock on and was thankful that I couldn't push it more than a few inches.

If I'm suspicious of my own memory lapses, I'd be quite a bit more suspicious of people I don't know.

Also, not that sure if any insurance company would give a reasonable reduction for this practice. There is no way of ensuring that you will lock your bike up like this, still no guarantee that the thieving scrotes will be put off and although signing up to the website might demonstrate to them that you are a safety and security concious individual, that's about all it demonstrates (and I don't think it does that very well). Also, theres always the possibility that someone will try to ride off with your bike chained up to them resulting in a claim.

I'm more impressed with the scheme being tried in Islington bays where they offer ground anchors built in.

And as for the scooter argument, I see no problem in lifting them out of the way to make space for a proper solo motorcycle...

[Sid Squid]

There's a scheme called "Lock It To Me", it deals with this very issue.

I'll try to find the link.

yeah , you pay a tenner - and get a list of people who are signed up already. Personally i think it would be better to do it for free -
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Well it's quite true, you can do it for nothing, but seeing as some of the respondents here would be peed off with your doing so, the registration scheme does two things, it allows you to be sure that you're not going to come back to find that an annoyed chain owner has done something unfortunate to your bike in your absence by way of retribution, and it raises awareness of this shared possibility of greater security by hopefully making more people aware of the idea, it simply hasn't occured to lots of riders to do this.
just like put a cross on your tax disc somewhere small and discreet. so other people know that you dont mind.
Excellent idea, but how will anyone know? The registration scheme is an attempt to make people aware, no? It seems to me that the people at Lock-It-To-Me aren't after loadsa money, this is an attempt to do something positive about bike theft, without pi55ing anyone off.
assumming you had linked your chain to something secure. (lamp post etc) when you disconnect your chain his bike is now chained to nothing. Doesn't strike me as being very secure for him. He would probably be better off chaining himself to something more permanent.
Also true, assuming you can, the places I have to park don't offer anything to secure to, as most of us know, the possibility of being secured so is very unusual, (or if you could have been, why weren't you?), so I think the criticism that you'll not be chained to an immovable object if the other moves and takes their chain with them is irrelevant, you wouldn't have been anyway, nothing lost.

Also, not that sure if any insurance company would give a reasonable reduction for this practice. There is no way of ensuring that you will lock your bike up like this, still no guarantee that the thieving scrotes will be put off and although signing up to the website might demonstrate to them that you are a safety and security concious individual, that's about all it demonstrates (and I don't think it does that very well). Also, theres always the possibility that someone will try to ride off with your bike chained up to them resulting in a claim.
I'm more impressed with the scheme being tried in Islington bays where they offer ground anchors built in.

There's no way of the insurance company ensuring that you use any of the security you claim you have, as for the ground anchors, they cost public money, so whilst they are clearly the best security you can use on the street, they are far from universal, and are unlikely ever to be.
I don't think Lock-It-To-Me will suit every circumstance but in the absence of an anchor or similar bit of street furniture, (which, lets face it, is by far the most likely probability), it's got to be better than not being locked to another object, which is the situation that just about everyone finds themselves in now.

Remember that if someone wants your bike they just need a van to carry it in, no-one listens to alarms and disc locks won't stop it being carried away to a lock up somewhere quiet, where a thief will have plenty of time to leisurely remove your disc lock with a grinder.
Thieves don't want to spend long over nicking, if something needs to be cut at the scene, the chances of it being your bike have gone down greatly.

[21QUEST]

Good idea but won't really be of much use if one of the bikes has got a lock/chain made of cheese.

Cheers
Ben

[Moo]

No objection.