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Biggles
02-12-04, 07:20 PM
Hi Guys - just thought I'd record another off for the SVers. Queing up for a left turn only filter light, a car coming the other way sees the van beside me in the right/ahead lane stop (as he was facing a red light) and so decides to pull through the stopped traffic in to the building site on the opposite side of the road (that is - my side). Oh glory be - there is a second lane of traffic with a nice little black SV coming along towards the green filter light -oops - bang - biker and bike on ground. Driver gets out of car, looks down at biker and says "my wife is very distressed you know (wife being in the car as passneger)" Biker replies that she is not having the greatest of days herself! Most contained in the circumstances.

Upshot is that the bike needs new lower fairing but should get away with paint job on upper one, new leavers, bar end, mirror etc and a pain job round the seat cowling. New lid from previous 'oops didn't see you' needs replacing as does jacket bought only 2 weeks ago at the NEC.

But it gets better - having spoken to the driver's insurance company - he is denying liability and they want to go 50/50. Now I may be being a tad officious here but no BL@@@Y way. So the saga goes on and even better my renewal is due on the 16th!! At least white van man in the lane next to me has come up trumps and offered to be a witness for me.

So just a bit fed up and fancied a rant. :evil:

Gforceuk
02-12-04, 07:23 PM
what a cheeky git.

if the police werent informed then nip down the station and report it that way you'll at least have an incident number or something to back you up. maybe someone else reported it and witness what the muppet did.

splke
02-12-04, 07:43 PM
some people just take the biscuit :roll:

Hope you are ok :(

Biggles
02-12-04, 07:46 PM
yeah - bit bashed down one side but basically fed up! Have done a map for the insurance company of who was where and contacted the witness who says he will make a statement in my favour so it's a wait and see case. Compared to some on here it's minor, just a pain and thankfully all recoverable.

Cloggsy
02-12-04, 07:54 PM
some people just take the biscuit :roll:

Yeah, normally me... followed by another & another :D (Mind you, Spike is catching up with the Clogmeister :wink:)

What a tw@ :roll: Take it all the way :!:

Biggles
02-12-04, 07:59 PM
only if it's a chocolate hobnob

Jabba
02-12-04, 08:44 PM
Sorry to hear about this - glad you're mainly OK.

The guy and his insurance company haven't got a leg to stand on and it's lucky for him that the police didn't attend.

Take care.

Carsick
02-12-04, 08:55 PM
That's an ****.
From what you said it's absolutely clear cut, he pulled across your lane, bit of a no brainer, even an insurance company should be able to work that one out.
What's the odds that your premiums go up anyway?

mysteryjimbo
02-12-04, 09:28 PM
When i went thru a claim last year, the guy i ran into wanted to pass off complete liability to me.

However i had two eye witnesses and the police attended.

So they received a courtesy bike charge of around £4000 + my injury payment + bike costs + clothing costs! RESULT

chutz
03-12-04, 12:21 AM
Bad luck dude. Hope it all gets sorted and SOON!!! :?

embee
03-12-04, 12:37 AM
Sorry to hear that.

I'm of the view that if you get knocked off when it's clearly someone else's fault, then you're going to suffer an injury (you know, sore neck, bad back etc :wink: ) which means the police MUST be called. Takes a lot of the guesswork out of what is to follow IMO.

Just a thought for the future.................... :-k

timwilky
03-12-04, 08:48 AM
Sorry to read about your off. But at least you are all right.

Tell the cheeky sods that you hold them 100% liable for the accident and demand that they additioanlly replace your uninsured losses (helmet jacket etc.) and advise them that you have an independant witness.


I guess that you are on a TPFF policy. and therefore have to do all the sh1tty chasing yourself. Insurers seem to think because you are joe public, they can use their size and clout to reduce thier liability. No Bloody way, stand up to them

mysteryjimbo
03-12-04, 09:12 AM
I have the solicitors number i used if you want. Its a no win no fee thing, BUT they are really good and with TPFT you get everything you would get fully comp plus more.

I got a Fazer 1000 for 3 months, injury payment and my clothing money back.

Jabba
03-12-04, 09:16 AM
I got a Fazer 1000 for 3 months.........

Almost worth getting knocked off for, I should think. Fast and comfortable. High on list of next bikes to "check out" in a couple of years time :twisted:

BillyC
03-12-04, 09:50 AM
Biggles...

obviously, don't back down... the map and situation will negate the possibility for a 50/50 as far as precident is concerned. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - in situations like this, where you have right of way (defined by a green light), and he had to give way (he was crossing oncoming traffic), no blame can be placed on you for your situation.

Something you should possibly investigate is that if you were on a left filter... the traffic the other way would probably have an equivilent right-filter light. If yours was green, theirs should be red etc. Alternatively, there may also be a no right turn for that oncoming traffic.

Investigate the traffic island, spend a few minutes observing the lights and the order they work in. It may enlighten the situation further for you, putting the van even more in the wrong.

Finally (sigh) speak facts to the insurance company - direction you were travelling in, direction van was travelling in, light configuration at the time of the accident, and the damange to your vehicle, which will tally with the road situation you have just described. Facts facts facts - easily points the blame at him. If they don't play ball... get a Solicitor.

howardr
03-12-04, 02:51 PM
Keep fighting it.

Just remember, all the resultant statistics simply reinforce what a bunch of unruly and inept bunch we all (so clearly) are.

These people need to be shown that bad driving is not acceptable. Unfortunately the 'blame culture' and greediness that we now endure seems to distort everyone's view of 'the truth'.

bluebell
03-12-04, 06:12 PM
Best of luck.