Should i feel embarressed in the company of supersport 600s?

[jj003]

is there a huge step up from a sv650 to a inline sports four like an r6 or gsxr600... i always feel a tad intimidated when at bike meets like box hill etc..yes i know we are all bikers blah blah, but should i feel wusy for being on an sv650s ?

just a thought....

[Carsick]

The SV just isn't an out and out sports bike, like an r6 or whatever. It does ok. It also turns pretty quickly and has a decent amount of torque.
Don't be too embarassed though, I occasionally overtake litre bikes on my SV.

[Cloggsy]

A good rider could crap all over a poor 600 Sports rider :wink:

[Jelster]

is there a huge step up from a sv650 to a inline sports four like an r6 or gsxr600... i always feel a tad intimidated when at bike meets like box hill etc..yes i know we are all bikers blah blah, but should i feel wusy for being on an sv650s ?

just a thought....

I wonder how long you have been riding.

I ask, because generally (and I do mean that this is a general observation) most people riding sport 600's have been riding longer than many SV riders, so it could be a confidence thing. Also many sport 600 riders (unlike myself O:) ) can be a bit cocky and tend to be "committed" in the way they ride.

I am proud of spending 13 months on an SV from when I past my test, I loved it to bits and if it wasn't for SWMBO I'd probably still have it, but I'm not allowed 2 bikes (well not yet anyway...).

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[northwind]

Nothing at all to be ashamed of in an SV... I got some funny comments last time I was up at Knockhill, but funnilly enough they dried uo when I kept up with most of the others- the racers left me for dead, because they were much better riders on better bikes, but the guy on the 636 looked a proper tosser getting overtaken by me on the SV and another guy on an ancient Kwak. (he looked even more of a tosser when he started slagging off the Metzeler Rennsports the bike was wearing, only to find out I was on Roadtecs and the Kwak was on Michelin Macadams :) )

On an SV you have nothing to prove. On a Gixxer people take warp speed for granted. On the track days I've done there's always been at least 1 guy on a modern race rep who's been left feeling shortchanged because he can't get the performance out of his superbike that he thinks he should.

And at the end of the day, it's not what you've got, it's what you do with it.

[ArtyLady]

Ive gone from an inline 4 (bandit 600) to an sv because I prefer v twins. I think they have more character and sound better. (no offence meant to anyone :oops: :) )

IMO 4 cylinder bikes are more forgiving to ride because wheras a twin has far more torque and you have to work quite hard to keep it all smooth. :riding:

I for one dont think of the sv as just a first bike - (my sv is my third) and plan to keep mine for some time to come. If I do change it will probably be to an sv 1000. :D

[Carsick]

Ive gone from an inline 4 (bandit 600) to an sv because I prefer v twins. I think they have more character and sound better. (no offence meant to anyone :oops: :) )

IMO 4 cylinder bikes are more forgiving to ride because wheras a twin has far more torque and you have to work quite hard to keep it all smooth. :riding:

I for one dont think of the sv as just a first bike - (my sv is my third) and plan to keep mine for some time to come. If I do change it will probably be to an sv 1000. :D
I see that as an odd view.
The only I4s I've ridden weremuch more offort to keep on the boil, which was much more noticable than I find the jerkiness on an SV.
Having ridden a bandit 600 (a k4 I think) I find them pretty gutless compared to the SV, though maybe a tiny bit more top end rush.

The SV isn't my first bike, either, it's my 4th, and I still think of myself as a beginner. I don't commit myself enough most of the time.

Anyway, the point being, an SV is a different kind of bike, but in the right hands, can easily be enough.

[valleyboy]

Well, I have only been riding since august.. so I was on the road about the same time my mate got his CBR600..
it was he that was chasing me round the corners for the first couple of weeks :D on the straights Im screwed.. as he can **** off to higher speeds than Im comfartable with doing... but going round corners is a lot easier on an SV.. that lovely torque down low means you can just punch the throttle without having to go down 2 gears.. which means.. Im quicker around corners, and out of them.. and then we hit a straight bit...I struggle a bit.

I too was thinking of the SV1000S.. but then I looked at insurance quotes! Do'h!! bit expensive! (like 1/2 the value of the bike expensive!)

[Warren]

well if it makes you feel any better there were several riders on here who were quicker than me on my CBR6

ask sexy si :)

[northwind]

If you can keep the SV right in the peak power, and clutchless shift up to stay on it, you'll not be left behind badly at all up to, say, 80. Or at least that's what I found on mine chasing R6s back from Kelso :) Mine's a wee bit up on power on standard but not massively... After that they'll fly off, but to be honest who cares? You'll get there a couple of minutes late but you'll still have your license.

Your retaliation needs to be in words not speed- take the **** out of him for not being able to go round corners. Anyone can go fast in a straight line, but carving corners is a skill.

[ArtyLady]

Ive gone from an inline 4 (bandit 600) to an sv because I prefer v twins. I think they have more character and sound better. (no offence meant to anyone :oops: :) )

IMO 4 cylinder bikes are more forgiving to ride because wheras a twin has far more torque and you have to work quite hard to keep it all smooth. :riding:

I for one dont think of the sv as just a first bike - (my sv is my third) and plan to keep mine for some time to come. If I do change it will probably be to an sv 1000. :D
I see that as an odd view.
The only I4s I've ridden weremuch more offort to keep on the boil, which was much more noticable than I find the jerkiness on an SV.
Having ridden a bandit 600 (a k4 I think) I find them pretty gutless compared to the SV, though maybe a tiny bit more top end rush.

The SV isn't my first bike, either, it's my 4th, and I still think of myself as a beginner. I don't commit myself enough most of the time.

Anyway, the point being, an SV is a different kind of bike, but in the right hands, can easily be enough.

Maybe Im in no position to judge then - as the bandit is the only il4 i have ridden - im not very technically minded (I just get on and ride - typical woman I spose :lol: !!) but I truly did find it much less effort to ride smoothly.

like you carsick, I also still think of myself as a beginner (my total milege is about 8,000 in 2 years) , I am not committed/progressive enough but I am working on that with my advanced training and Im getting there slowly but surely. My observer had a pink fit when I got the sv - he said OMG youve just got used the il4 -now what youve got is a whole different style of riding - his view was that "beginners" are better off on il4's because they are smoother and more forgiving and I tend to agree with him -certainly in the case of the bandit. :)

Anyway I suppose each to their own - I luv my sv whatever :wink: :D

[Dicky Ticker]

At least with your S.V.you can open the tap and use every bit of power,
no front wheel lifts unless deliberate and as already stated on most A&B
roads your torque will let you keep up if not pass nea tother abaw My son has a 600rr and he doesnt leave the 650SV for dead ,even with a slipper clutch and all his set up a almost bog standard SV IS RIGHT ON HIS ASS
Try harder------140 top end isnt much but the low B.H.P. and torque of the "V2" Lets you use it all GO FOR IT

[johnlowe]

Here are my observations having had an SV650S for ten weeks and a GSX-R600 for five weeks:

1. The SV will leave the GSXR for dead from a standing start. The inline four needs a real handful of throttle to get away unlike the SV which seems to pull away smoothly at anything over tickover revs.

2. The SV has the edge in terms of mid range pull although there isn't that much in it (for K4s at least). It is a bit more work to ride the four through twisty roads.

3. In terms of straight line speed the GSXR wins hands down not only for power but also in gives more confidence through better stability at speed. The brakes on the GSXR also inspire a lot more confidence.

4. I found the four to be more tractable in heavy traffic without the on-off throttle effect of the SV. Riding the bike home after collecting it from Cupar , I was stuck in a five mile crawl over the Fourth Bridge. The traffic never actually stopped but never exceeded 10 mph. That would have been a real pain with the SV but it was a doddle with the GSXR.

In conclusion, the four is easier through towns while the SV is less work on the open road with the exception of fast dual carriageways and motorways. Apart from a trip on the latter roads, who gets there first is likely to be more down to the rider than the bike.

[BURNER]

A lot of people have this image thing about the SV being a beginner's bike. It's mostly ******** written by spoiled bike journalists, who try to make folk feel inadequate on anything other than a hot poop, razor sharp, sports bike. A SV is plenty of bike on the road for anyone barring stunt loonies and racers.

Barry Sheene himself said that more than 100BHP on the road was a waste. I've had bikes with 120BHP on the back wheel while they're entertaining you always feel that unless using that power you're being a jessie. On the Sv you can use all of that 68+BHP. If you can't keep up or get passed so what, the roads aren't a race track. If you're on a GSXR/R6/CBR/ZX whatever and people get past you. Well then there's no bike to blame. You're just plain slow.

[Jabba]

Speaking as someone who rides an IL4 that isn't a super-sports 600.........

I think its a case of horses for courses and really only a matter of personal preference.

My Hornet makes about 44ft-lbs of torque @ 9000rpm, an SV650 makes a couple more a bit lower in the rev-range. My Hornet has about 85bhp at the rear wheel @12,000rpm, the SV has probably about 15bhp less a couple of thousand rpm lower.

The only real difference is where in the available rev-range the "mid-range" of the engine is and as long as an SV and a Hornet are ridden in their mid-ranges there will be nothing in it performance-wise. I suspect that the wieght of the rider has more influence than the couple of lb-ft of torque :lol:

Any difference in on-road performance will be down to the skill/experience of the rider.

Having riden both my IL4 and an SV I can see plus points for both. Speaking personally, I found the IL4 easier to ride smoothly, particularly in town, given my lack of experience and typical newbie ham-fistedness with the throttle. The pay-off is that I might have to knock-down an extra gear sometimes before negotiating/exiting corners.

I do like the high-rev howl of the IL4, though :wink:

[johnnyuk]

the most important thing is this what do YOU want from a bike> want to race with others then get an R1. enjoy riding at speeds your happy with etc etc.I've had several bikes .I had a thundercat and my mate brother had an R6 he said the R6 will p*** all over the cat.I said thats what you think maybe it will in the right hand but not YOU! so on the way back home from kirbylonsdale I open her up once I got to the twisties left him and 3 others(2xR6's ,kwack 636,yamthun/ace) once in hawes I stopped but they just carried on.I did'nt bother following them as I new other lads who stopped. nothing was said for about 3 mths.by that time I sold my cat for a fazer 03. at the end of the day its the rider.I've been riding bikes for 30 yrs in all that time I've only come off 3 times(in my early years) my advice is this.. RIDE WITHIN YOUR OWN CAPABILITY....DON'T GO BEYOND THAT OR WORST WILL HAPPEN BELIEVE ME, ENJOY YOUR RIDE 'N' SOD THOSE WHO MAY LAUGH. my next bike is going to be an SV650 yes it a bit of a come down in term's of power/speed.riding motorbikes is not about speed but enjoying the freedom 'n' comradship of others who enjoy biking like you find on this board. so ENJOY :wink:

[Cloggsy]

Ey-up Johnny... Welcome to the site :wink: You ain't a million miles away from me fella :D

Never ride faster than your 'Guardian Angel' can fly :wink:

[northwind]

Ah yes, riding beyond your ability, I know a bit about that :oops: At a beginner level, you're not likely to ride beyond what the SV will do in the corners/braking, just beyond what you can deal with. So you do what I did, ie bin the bike in a corner that you could have breezed around if you'd not panicked, because you put your big 10-ton foot on the rear brake. The thing about pushing your limits is that when you actually hit the limit, somethign bad happens.

I don't know why I didn't say this earlier, but at this point in your riding career, you don't want to be riding that hard. Trust one who knows!

[jj003]

i already did slam on the bake break when panicking in a corner and tyre slid somewhat..oops! used to ride old gs500e which was much heavier at the back and not as affected by back break...anyway gotta practice those corners and trust the bike in lean..

ps you all mention easier in traffic with inline 4, even gsxr! yet the bike mags all say something to the effect of "sv650 great in town traffic with all that low down torque...." contradicts u guys, but i believe you more...loving the bike...just cant make up mind on end can for sound...and need to sort out tail..j

[Jelster]

Here are my observations having had an SV650S for ten weeks and a GSX-R600 for five weeks:

Not a lot of time on either really

1. The SV will leave the GSXR for dead from a standing start. The inline four needs a real handful of throttle to get away unlike the SV which seems to pull away smoothly at anything over tickover revs.

Not if you know how to ride the Gixer. Most SV's get me for about 30 metres or so, unless it's Rictus, but then he's a nutcase anyway :lol:

2. The SV has the edge in terms of mid range pull although there isn't that much in it (for K4s at least). It is a bit more work to ride the four through twisty roads.

Don't forget that the GSXR's mid range is 10k RPM, well into the power band. What I think you mean is at "low revs" more like 5-7k. My K4 is well on song by the time it hits the middle of its rev range, 7-12k

3. In terms of straight line speed the GSXR wins hands down not only for power but also in gives more confidence through better stability at speed. The brakes on the GSXR also inspire a lot more confidence.

Yep, the brakes on the Gixer are excellent

4. I found the four to be more tractable in heavy traffic without the on-off throttle effect of the SV. Riding the bike home after collecting it from Cupar , I was stuck in a five mile crawl over the Fourth Bridge. The traffic never actually stopped but never exceeded 10 mph. That would have been a real pain with the SV but it was a doddle with the GSXR.

Personally I never found traffic a problem on the SV, riding under 10MPH in 1st was fine, on the Falco it was a nightmare.

In conclusion, the four is easier through towns while the SV is less work on the open road with the exception of fast dual carriageways and motorways. Apart from a trip on the latter roads, who gets there first is likely to be more down to the rider than the bike.

I think that depends on how you ride your SV, I was always keeping it up above 7k, so not disimilar to keeping an in line 4 "on the boil". All the talk of the SV being better in and out of corners is crap. The GSXR carries more speed into and through the corner, allowing you to be faster out of it. It handles better, grips better and turns faster. I am definately faster through bends on the Gixer, of that there is no doubt...

However, no matter what you ride, it's the rider not the machine, there are plenty of riders on here who are faster on their SV's than I am on my Gixer.

.

[Muttley]

but should i feel wusy for being on an sv650s ?

Yes you should. HTH

Its not what you ride but how you ride it.

I used to go round the outside of the odd 600cc sports bike on my 125 riding to and from work. They used to look all embarrased when I would tell 'em it was a 125 that showed them up in the corners. lol.

If you are enjoying your riding (and its safe) then thats all that matters. If people judge you by what you ride then I think they have a bit of a problem.

Most people I have met just want to talk bikes or whatever, not get into ****ing contests.

[Cloggsy]

Most people I have met just want to talk bikes or whatever, not get into ****ing contests.

:thumbsup: http://forums.sv650.org/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif http://forums.sv650.org/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif http://forums.sv650.org/images/smiles/eusa_clap.gif

[Aaron_T]

I've ridden an R6, and as it seemed fast, it wasn't for me.
Not that I couldn't handle it, it just seemed too small, and too much trouble to ride around town.
I gunned the R6 out of a right hand turn when I rode it, got up to 80mph quickly, but front wheel never felt like it was gonna come up. Did the same thing on my SV, well tried to, but in 1st gear my front wheel comes up too easily. Having power at 10k+ rpms seems useless for the street.

Also I think an R6 and a lot of "sport" bikes are bought because they are the "cool" thing to get. That's how it is around here anyways. Younger people just wanting to go excessive speeds, and have what their friends have. The SV is quite capable of keeping up with R6's around town, and modereate highway speeds.

The only bike I would ever consider trading my SV in for is an SV1000S, but I won't.

[johnlowe]

Not a lot of time on either really
Very true. The SV is just about run in (1000) while the GSXR (650 miles) has just had its first service and I have kept it below 8,000 revs so far.

Don't forget that the GSXR's mid range is 10k RPM, well into the power band. What I think you mean is at "low revs" more like 5-7k. My K4 is well on song by the time it hits the middle of its rev range, 7-12k
A good point. I will take it up to 10,000 revs next time out and see what happens!

I think that depends on how you ride your SV, I was always keeping it up above 7k, so not disimilar to keeping an in line 4 "on the boil". All the talk of the SV being better in and out of corners is crap. The GSXR carries more speed into and through the corner, allowing you to be faster out of it. It handles better, grips better and turns faster. I am definately faster through bends on the Gixer, of that there is no doubt...
I didn't say that the SV was quicker through bends but that it was less work going through the gears.

I found the handling and braking of the GSXR is a major plus on bends. A couple of times I found myself going into a bend faster than I would have liked but the GSXR went around with something to spare.

[wheelnut]

At the risk of labouring the point :roll:

California Superbike School :wink:

Do one of these, learn how a bike works, learn how easy it is to turn a bike. then go out and ride with these power rangers on R6 and Gixxers :)

Of course you ride at your own ability,

but you will find yourself planning a bend,

being in the exact position you wanted to be in and have so much time to enjoy the ride. You will feel relaxed and unrushed, even having a chance to roll a cigarette between corners :P , but be warned smoking is bad for your health.

You will learn something, whether you have ridden 30 days or 30 years

[Mr Toad]

What a great collection of replies :lol:

Certain sections of the biking fraternity look down upon the SV, in the same manner as say a Ferrari owner might do to a Ford owner. You only have to visit one of the other forums to witness this first hand :twisted: "My bike is bigger/faster/shinier/more expensive/doesn't smell of perfume/etc. than yours, therefore it must be better". Unless we're all lining up on a race track, there isn't much in it at the end of the day.

Interesting comments regarding how easy it is to ride - I love the torque that is available from the V-twin engine - open the throttle in almost any gear and away it goes. (OK it may chug like a tractor, but it still goes :lol: ) Do that on an IL4 and you'll look very silly :shock:

As for performance around town, it all comes down to practice. Yes there is plenty of engine breaking on the SV, but IMHO that is what makes it great - you're not constantly having to hit the brakes, you just close the throttle. 6 months practice into central London and back every day has greatly improved my low speed control :cry:

[lynw]

interesting to read as Im about to pick up a cbr6....

Unless we're all lining up on a race track, there isn't much in it at the end of the day. and even then its a lot down to the rider.... and on a short bendy track with few straights I think the sv would very easily hold its own against a bigger bike...

I love the torque that is available from the V-twin engine - open the throttle in almost any gear and away it goes

Oh god I love the torque!!! I rode a gs5 over the weekend... I was revving and releasing the clutch and wondering why the heck it was still sitting there :shock: until I hit enough revs and it slowly moved off...
on my sv I can just release the clutch slowly and the sv will start pulling away without me even raising the revs from my idle of 1000 rpm... that aint gonna happen on the cbr :lol:

Im so looking forward to riding the cbr and just experiencing the difference... I suspect I will always love my sv as I love the torquey bikes...

at the end of the day it doesnt matter what you ride but how you ride. As long as youre safe and you enjoy it let the nutters go by no matter what theyre on..

if someone looks down on you because youre not on the latest zx-9 then dont take any notice cos in my book theyre not real bikers...
and Im talking about the I-must-have-the-very-latest-most-expensive-model-with-full-matching-leathers-then-ponce-about-looking-down-on-everyone-else kind of guys... u know... they only come out if theres not a cloud in the sky... and boxhills full of the posers... and I turn up with my sv and top box on cos to me its a way of sticking 2 fingers up to em... and I go in winter too!!!!

to me a real biker doesnt care what the bike is but enjoys the differences and experiences that different bikes give and appreciates its a personal thing... its about the biking EXPERIENCE more than the bike...

and just because youre on an sv doesnt mean to say you cant do bigger bikes at lights (the sp-1 and zx-9 will testify to that this morning on my way in... :lol) so if you do want to get into a ****ing contest.... the sv can hold its own to start with... but just remember... not on a straight....!!!!

[Grinch]

Should i feel embarressed in the company of supersport 600s?

NO

Why should you... on any bike.. it has 2 wheels.. You have what you can afford, and what is pratical for you at the time. If they mock you then they are just playing 'play ground' childish games and should grow up.

A bit late I know.. but I wanted to put across my views...

[Balky001]

Mr Toad wrote:
Unless we're all lining up on a race track, there isn't much in it at the end of the day.
and even then its a lot down to the rider.... and on a short bendy track with few straights I think the sv would very easily hold its own against a bigger bike...

I had a 650SK03 for 1 year and still love the look and sound of the bike. It was torquey and I could always beat my mate away from the lights when he was riding his GSXR600. But now I have a GSXR600, I still beat him away from lights when he's on his MV Agusta SPR.

Everyone who said its mostly down to the rider is IMO correct. I did 7 track days last year and the closest battle I had was with a racing Aprillia 250 RS at Snetterton, a traditionally big engined race track. We slaughted Fireblades and R1's new old old alike, because going in to the last bend before the hairpin was all about balls rather than horses or torquey drive. But for equal riders, the bike design and power does matter, especially on track. A focused track orientated design using more expensive componants will do a budget street bike (or what would be the point?) But why would (or should) anyone be embarrassed about having the fantastic SV, just like why should anyone be ashamed of having all the latest gear and bike either? Live and let live.

I had more thou owners want to ride my rather cool looking SV (lots of added on bits) than people noticing my run of the mill GSXR 600, exept at the one track day I took it where the SV didn't get a look in. But that's not why I own a bike. I'm proud of my GSXR as it is fast and comfortable (the seat is way better than the K03), easy to ride in town and on the twisties, and handles confidently. But you do get used to the power very quickly. I've just added a PowerCommander and K&N Air filter to try and regain that low down acceleration that the SV gave, which it has, and catch those darn R1's on the straights. The only time to be embarrassed is if you ride something you totallt can't handle. Then you look like a plum!

[johnnyuk]

Ey-up Johnny... Welcome to the site :wink: You ain't a million miles away from me fella :D

Never ride faster than your 'Guardian Angel' can fly :wink:

we'll have to meet up some time if you can put with an old geezer like me (53). I have 2 bikes 1 fazer 600 03 and an old bugger like me suzuki T500.if you look into this www.ozebook.com look at 500 2 strokes.. then readers bikes and mine is under the name of johnnyuk's bike.there
you'll see my T500 the green one and of cause you'll see the ugly one sat on it .he looks like me :roll: :roll: by by chaps

[lynw]

[quote="Balky001 But why would (or should) anyone be embarrassed about having the fantastic SV, just like why should anyone be ashamed of having all the latest gear and bike either? Live and let live.
[/quote]

I dont have a problem with guys with new bikes/gear or anyone on an old crappy bike...

I have a problem with the guys who have a bad attitude to other bikers in that if YOU havent got the latest or the best youre not as good as they are... so when Im being judged as inferior cos I dont have the latest toy or gear thats when I get miffed....

I have to say they are few and far between but Ive met some... and yes they were at boxhill on a sunny day in their matching leather suits... these are the guys to whom biking is all about an image...

Motorcycle city were really bad with me for this... I would walk in the shop and theyd wait for the rider. The image was female = pillion. Stopped using them and went to Hein Gericke in the end.

[Grinch]

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

[Aaron_T]

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

Not almost certain it's the SV650. Actually I have a couple of tests/articles that I'll scan tonight, one wsa the SV650 vs the GSX600

[Cloggsy]

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

Not almost certain it's the SV650. Actually I have a couple of tests/articles that I'll scan tonight, one wsa the SV650 vs the GSX600

The SV1000 is quicker 0-60 than a GSXR 1000 :!:

Obviously the GSXR 1000 disappears into the distance after that, but this would indicate to me (as a street rider) that the SV1000 is more useable than the GSXR Thou... or am I wrong <waits to be shot down in flames> :roll:

[Muttley]

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX???

Are you talking GSX600 or GSXR600

Quite a difference between the two. :)

[Aaron_T]

Of course this magazine doesn't have the fastest times I have seen for an SV, but here's a SV650S vs. GSXR600

http://home.gci.net/~birdman/bike/SV_GSX1.jpg
http://home.gci.net/~birdman/bike/SV_GSX2.jpg
http://home.gci.net/~birdman/bike/SV_GSX3.jpg

I'l dig up the other one(s) I have later

[benHallowes]

dude, you shouldnt feel a wuss on the SV, its a great bike. :D

having spent 18 months on the SV and 12 on the R6, i would say they are very different propositions, and as others have said: its down to personal preference... :wink:

re: performance
It takes more effort/ skill/ clutch slip to make the R6 pull away quickly, but once you have it sorted, you can make some REALLY fast get-aways in a flurry of revs and clutch-slip.

The SV is way easier to launch quickly...

All in all, I felt that i wanted more than the SV could offer (better perfomance, IMO better looks, better resistance to corrosion :wink: etc) and - to me - the R6 offers it. I spent lots on my SV (suspension, performance upgrades) and was still left wanting... For me the Yamaha is a better package. The transition to the R6 was quite difficult and took a re-calibration of my brain (getting used to screaming the tits off it/ the way it delivers the power/ the speed with which it turns/ etc), but i have found it more rewarding all-round.

I KNOW for a fact that i would have been left behind at Silverstone this year if i'd been on my SV, no matter how good a rider i am/ am not. On the R6 i was giving everyone a run for their money in the corners, but there was NO WAY i could stay with/ catch a ZX10R on the straights, whupped him in the corners and braking, but he was not the best rider... (see below)

http://www.picman.co.uk/data/20040818SpeSil20040101/GRP1%20NOV/HALLOWES%20B/DSC_6708.jpg

[Balky001]

It seems an overwhelming agreement that there's no need to be embarrassed when you ride an SV in any company, even though you may get whupped on the track by fast riders on fast bikes. So when should you be embarrassed? Well, on my of the track days I did earlier this year, everyone was walking around the paddock and having a chat and looking at the race bikes etc, but one rider caught everyone's eye. Brand new R1, in Rossi colours, leathers in Rossi colours (with leather outside the boots alla Rossi, and a AGV Rossi lid. He was really giving it the Big I Am, not acknowledging people and standing in front of the paddock for all to see. Damn, he's going to be fast, giving that much front, glad I'm in Novice. He was too. I (and 75% of the novice group) lapped him 4 times in the first full session of the day. And he was still giving it large about back end slides in the paddock, and power wheelies and how fast the R1 is that few people can tame the awesome power. Now, that's embarrassing. Not that he would know it

[BaggaZee]

Nice! :toss:

[SV Stu]

18 months ago i had a YZF600 Thundercat, and have been riding for 26 years and even with the amount of No claims i have, it still cost me over £250 to insure it, so as money was a bit tite at that time, it had to go. But now with the SV650 S, i am fully comp for only £108. Bargain! But to be honest, the SV isn't much different from an IL4 until you want to ride like you dont want to see tommorrow. And how often do we ride that quick anyway. Plus i used to race Single 4stroke moto-x bikes so a more torquey bike is easier to ride for me.

[jambo]

Now, that's embarrassing. Not that he would know it

Couldn't agree more! :lol:

I ride a bandit 6, I have no illusions, I was at Silverstone with Ben and his R6 and he was off into the distance. But I had nothing to prove, and the moment I Outdragged the guy on his fireblade and another on a TL1000R just because I was coming out of the corner properly I will remember for a while to come. :twisted:

Brands hatch Indy circuit was my 1st track day ever this year, I was taking anything up to 2 or 3 bikes a lap on the brakes at the end of the straight into paddock on my bandit, with it's 2 pot sliding calipers, and 020 tyres (Blistered quite badly by the end of the day). I had a great time, but when a better rider on a better bike came along they were off and I couldn't do much about it. :lol:

Nothing to be embarressed about on a budget bike, it's up to the supersports guys to prove they're better than you not the other way round. :wink:

Thinking of getting something faster this year as I've started to find that I'm more intrested in track days and such things where my bike isn't that good, but will not be going for the latest and greatest bike as I kinda like the underdog image. You only need to beat a couple of people on more focused kit to feel you've done really well, especially if there was a battle to get past them :P

[Colby]

Brand new R1, in Rossi colours, leathers in Rossi colours (with leather outside the boots alla Rossi, and a AGV Rossi lid.

I heard a great story of a guy at a track day with his mates. Walking in the pits he sees a red 916 and a guy in foggy rep leathers leaning over it. He says to his mates ( abit too loudly) "Who's that **** in foggy rep leathers....."

Just as he is finishing his sentence, the guy in Foggy rep leathers, stands up turns round and smiles. Turns out they werent Foggy rep leathers and they were worn by the real Foggy. :D

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Necro post!

[Razor]

:smt064

SV is girly bike and if you're a rufty tufty male biker you should be ashamed of yourself...

[Baph]

:smt064

SV is girly bike and if you're a rufty tufty male biker you should be ashamed of yourself...and part ex for a good Harley!
:o

[Dicky Ticker]

The long and the short of it is not bike statistics but rider performance

[SoulKiss]

:o

What is this mythical beast "A Good Harley" you speak of.

Provide proof of its existance or go forth from this place, never to return, upon pain of death :)

David

[Toypop]

This whole thread is a perfect demonstration of how biking has been taken over by cagers especially in the last 10 years or so. Unfortunately they have brought their culture and bad attitudes with them.

15 years ago no one would have cared what bike you turned up on. Nowadays everyone is worried about does their bike have the street cred, do they have the right leathers, the right helmet and of course if your boots costs less than £150 you are a nobody.

In worrying about whether you should be embarrassed you have demonstrated that you have more in common with cagers than real bikers and that really is embarrassing!

[kwak zzr]

my 650s used to hold its own up to 90-100 in real road riding.

[Baph]

A good harley (for a 40 od year old one), can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley_Cooper).

:takeabow:

[SoulKiss]

do they have the right leathers, the right helmet and of course if your boots costs less than £150 you are a nobody.

Leathers - Custom Made-to-Measure - Check
Helmet - Shoei Cryptic - Check
Boots - Sidi Vertigo Corsa's - Check (tho paid less than £150 at the MCN Show)

Woohoo - I am a trackday god :)

[Baph]

Leathers - Custom Made-to-Measure - Check
Helmet - Shoei Cryptic - Check
Boots - Sidi Vertigo Corsa's - Check (tho paid less than £150 at the MCN Show)

Woohoo - I am a trackday god :)
You're missing one vital thing though.

Private medical cover. Judging from your past, it's a definate requirement :p

(sorry fella, couldn't resist)

[SoulKiss]

You're missing one vital thing though.

Private medical cover. Judging from your past, it's a definate requirement :p

(sorry fella, couldn't resist)

Ouch that hurts - almost as much as a broken collarbone :)

[Alpinestarhero]

The SV is a highly respected motorcycle, by-and-large. I think most people - most well informed motorcyclists - see the SV as a really good bike. My dad kept telling me how his mates where impressed by my bike, and my dad enjoys the bike too (although its not as exciting to him as his GXR750...)

I feel proud turning up on my SV at box hill and other places, specialy when I look about and see loads of GSXR's, CBR's etc etc. It feels like loads of people own SV's, being on this forum - but its not as common as other bikes, so theres a degre of prestige about it too

Matt

[Lissa]

When we did our two day Bikesafe course last year our police observer was really impressed and taken with the SV. He said it was a cracking bike. And Bike magazine have several times described it as a 'secret scratchers bike':D

[weazelz]

SV is girly

excellent. I like girls

all those ss600 riders are clearly just using them to attract boys

[Sid Squid]

This whole thread is a perfect demonstration of how biking has been taken over by cagers especially in the last 10 years or so. Unfortunately they have brought their culture and bad attitudes with them.

15 years ago no one would have cared what bike you turned up on. Nowadays everyone is worried about does their bike have the street cred, do they have the right leathers, the right helmet and of course if your boots costs less than £150 you are a nobody.

In worrying about whether you should be embarrassed you have demonstrated that you have more in common with cagers than real bikers and that really is embarrassing!

The best post ever ever ever on this forum. End of.

FACT.

[Pedrosa]

Mr.Squidge..I am thinking you making very good point. Be a motorbiker not meant be fashion statement no? Love bike for being bike nothing more than this. I learn this way to think from my papa who have many bike when younger.

I see many time people talk about Harley Davidson, but this me think show lack of real respect of beautiful crafting of nice bikes. I am loving Indian motorcycle and have seen one in Museum in Holland which is sort of custom roadster and this is very sexy very nice. I want I like to have one just like this.:cool:

[Kate]

Nowadays everyone is worried about does their bike have the street cred, do they have the right leathers, the right helmet and of course if your boots costs less than £150 you are a nobody.
Interesting that you see the world that way, perhaps you have a good insight?

Personally I don't give a monkeys what people ride (except scooters, i really don't like scooters). I don't worry about how much my gear costs, in fact, I'm far more interested in if they provide enough protection for when I hit the road. Hmm, in fact, you are the only one I know of who does see the world this way!

[Rich]

The Sv isnt in the same league as the inline four 600's etc, but they can't be compared to that. If you compare them to bikes like the kwak ER6 then it comes out on top everytime in my eyes. There isnt too many bikes in the lines of the SV650 but of the ones there are its top of the list!

[krhall]

Listen - I bought mine for commuting and would never go back to my car.

Am I embarressed next to a GSXR or a CBR RR? No!

Why should I be some days they have to pull over for me and then other days I pull over for them, its just the way riding goes. I even pull over for scooters occasionally, even then I'm not embarrassed, just safe.

I ride to my own ability at all times, sometimes that means fast and other times not so, but one thing I can tell you is this; I can't imagine anyone gets to work or home from work with a bigger smile on their face than I have every night no matter what speed I go at.

I admit that the SS bikes do look nicer, but I could've bought one of those when I bought mine and chose not to.

JUST ENJOY!!!;)

[Flamin_Squirrel]

The Sv isnt in the same league as the inline four 600's etc, but they can't be compared to that...

Oh I don't know, there are plenty of bad sports bike riders out there making their bikes slower than alot of SVs ;)

[Rich]

Oh I don't know, there are plenty of bad sports bike riders out there making their bikes slower than alot of SVs ;)

Yeh :lol:, i know what you mean. My analysis was of the bike specs, but theres plenty of riders who would struggle against the mighty SV!!!!:D

[kwak zzr]

take out the long straights and i was alot faster on the 650 than i am on the 1000.

[Alpinestarhero]

This whole thread is a perfect demonstration of how biking has been taken over by cagers especially in the last 10 years or so. Unfortunately they have brought their culture and bad attitudes with them.

15 years ago no one would have cared what bike you turned up on. Nowadays everyone is worried about does their bike have the street cred, do they have the right leathers, the right helmet and of course if your boots costs less than £150 you are a nobody.

In worrying about whether you should be embarrassed you have demonstrated that you have more in common with cagers than real bikers and that really is embarrassing!

As already said - a bloody good observation. Biking is now "fashionable", which - like everything that turns fashionable - means your not a "real" biker unless you own the latest, greatest plastic missile from japan. Nope, don't buy that. I'm overjoyed to own an SV. I was overjoyed to have the scooter to ride around on. I'd be overjoyed if I had the little yamaha YB125 that I passed my test on. I don't care what I ride, as long as it is safe and legal. Best fun I ever had on two wheels was on a C90 field bike :cool: I should probably receive stick since I wear alpinestars and other bike lable bike gear (arai helmet) but I only buy it because I trust it to protect my life. Until I have a reason not to buy it, I wont change :)

Be proud of what you own, and sod everyone else who dosn't like it!

Matt

[Beenz]

Ride the bike you ride in the way that you want!

The SV is a cracking machine and in the right hands can blow the SS600s and more into the weeds.

Really I find it incredibly hard to believe that people actually get upset about being near an arguably more superior machine when riding the SV. Grow up!

I've been over taken by SS600s and really don't care, in a straight line and above 90 which on a ring road is were my licence starts to twitch, twisties are far more fun for me.

SS bikes may well be faster and handle better in the right hands but for crying out loud this is the public road we're on about, not Brands Hatch (where races are based on a class basis). In real terms on the real roads in the real world no one really gives a chimps chuff what your riding. Bottom line is enjoy your bike!

Oh and my leathers don't match the bike or my lid or even my boots for that matter. I enjoy riding my bike :)

[Rich]

Ride the bike you ride in the way that you want!

The SV is a cracking machine and in the right hands can blow the SS600s and more into the weeds.

Really I find it incredibly hard to believe that people actually get upset about being near an arguably more superior machine when riding the SV. Grow up!

I've been over taken by SS600s and really don't care, in a straight line and above 90 which on a ring road is were my licence starts to twitch, twisties are far more fun for me.

SS bikes may well be faster and handle better in the right hands but for crying out loud this is the public road we're on about, not Brands Hatch (where races are based on a class basis). In real terms on the real roads in the real world no one really gives a chimps chuff what your riding. Bottom line is enjoy your bike!

Oh and my leathers don't match the bike or my lid or even my boots for that matter. I enjoy riding my bike :)

:smt038 :notworthy:

[neio79]

No one should ever be embarased about turning up to a bike meet on an SV.

99% of the reviews in magazines acknowledge that it is a cracking bike to learn how to ride a big bike and for people who like to have fun, i have not very often read a bad word about the SV's usability on british roads.

Yes a IL4 will be quicker on a motorway or dual carrige way, but how much fun would that be to ride those roads all day?

On the twisties an SV can more than keep up with a IL4 600. That said it is all down to the rider. My mates old man has a BMW 1200 tourer thing, and can wipe the floor with 90% of the 1000cc riders that try it on with him, that is funny to watch!

The SV is very nimble in corners. I am surprised no one has mentioned the one big advantage that the V-twin has in corners and that is the massive engine braking! that will save you from having to use he brakes so early, ergo carying more speed into the corner and combine that with all that low down grunt to pull you out of them fast as well. that is one big thing going for the SV, and any V-twin.

Also the noise my bike makes (CCC race can) is so so so much nicer than an asthmatic IL4, i have turned far more heads with the sound of my bike than alot of SS 600's ( mainly because you cant hear them over my SV)

Oh yes the sound of the V-twin with a decent exhaust is the sound of a real bike!! LOL

[Kate]

Have to say, people seem to be very defensive about riding on SVs and very keen to have a go at SS600 riders.

I ride a SS600 and have matching leathers and lid. And oh my gosh! My boots cost over £150!!!! I guess I must be one of the awful 'fahionable bikers'!

My leathers pre-date to my SV and so do my boots. So am I one of you guys or a nasty evil fashionable rider?

On this thread I see a lot of people having a go at riders who ride machines other than SVs. On SS forums I see riders saying who cares what people ride, its the fact that they are riding that matters! I see whole threads on SS forums saying that people should get SVs as they are such great bikes!

Now which group of riders should be embarrassed? Unfortunately, it seems this thread seems to represent how the world view the SV forum. It is getting a reputation for being very unfriendly to anyone who doesn't own a SV or doesn't own a V-twin.

[kwak zzr]

i dont see it like that Kate? its what ever floats your boat, some ppl like sv's some like il4? personally i came from il4 to v twins but were all different.

[Samnooshka]

Stuff about IL4's and stuff :P

Good Posting Kate

I love my SV and never feel embarrased about turning up at Box Hill on it... the only time i get embarrased is when i go to put my foot down and nearly drop it when i park on a slope as there is no ground ;)

But then i have ridden many bikes in the 3 years of me riding, and when my girl is due for her MOT next year i will probably be looking at other bikes (wont be telling the sv this though as if its anything like my 125 she'll start playing me up when i come to sell her). But i would consider the sv one of the most fun bikes i have ridden.

At the end of the day the sv is a great starter bike and i have loads of learning to do before i move on to something else. Although i'm very tempted to chop her in as i rode Rigor's GSXR6 for a week and a bit a couple of weeks ago :D. With the change in my route to work i am loving my sv more and more as i am finding out what she can really do on the country roads through Chobham to the A30 weeeeee.

[kwak zzr]

why does everyone see the sv as a starter bike?

[Samnooshka]

why does everyone see the sv as a starter bike?

For me when it came to getting my first big bike, i was recommended the sv as it has little horsepower compared to an il4. It was also the only bike that we could lower sufficiantly that i could build my confidence on without compramising the handling too much. But that is just what i was recommended.

I'd love to keep mine and never sell her as she's fun and different to an il4, we'll see next year.

[Beenz]

No one should ever be embarased about turning up to a bike meet on an SV.

99% of the reviews in magazines acknowledge that it is a cracking bike to learn how to ride a big bike and for people who like to have fun, i have not very often read a bad word about the SV's usability on british roads.

Yes a IL4 will be quicker on a motorway or dual carrige way, but how much fun would that be to ride those roads all day?

On the twisties an SV can more than keep up with a IL4 600. That said it is all down to the rider. My mates old man has a BMW 1200 tourer thing, and can wipe the floor with 90% of the 1000cc riders that try it on with him, that is funny to watch!

The SV is very nimble in corners. I am surprised no one has mentioned the one big advantage that the V-twin has in corners and that is the massive engine braking! that will save you from having to use he brakes so early, ergo carying more speed into the corner and combine that with all that low down grunt to pull you out of them fast as well. that is one big thing going for the SV, and any V-twin.

Also the noise my bike makes (CCC race can) is so so so much nicer than an asthmatic IL4, i have turned far more heads with the sound of my bike than alot of SS 600's ( mainly because you cant hear them over my SV)

Oh yes the sound of the V-twin with a decent exhaust is the sound of a real bike!! LOL

I have to agree but with a few little added points. The SV is a fantastic bike in its' own right, a first 'big' bike or 18th bike (in my case anyway) and you never stop learning. Never pidgeon hole it as a learner bike.

The engine braking is a big plus to slow down for the twisty bits but equally throttle control requires extra care and control when feathering the power on the apex of a bend the same as a biger capacity bike.

SS bikes (for a gixer) are quite comfortable for 200 mile blats easily but some may experience high frequency vibes from the IL4 engine.

The sound of a CCC equipped SV IMHO sounds so much better than my yoshi on my bike. Thats something I miss from my SV.

[Rich]

I love the SV but i would also like to own an inline 4 someday! I think people get to wrapped up in trying to get SS600 performance out of the SV, stop quibling and get out on your bikes! :-$

[kwak zzr]

the little 650's can go as fast and handle, its prob better than 90% of its riders. lots of ppl see the il4 route as step up? i see it as a diff engine configuraiton? lots of ppl buy the cbr's and gsxr's because there great bikes not becasuse there any better than the little 650.

[kwak zzr]

I have to agree but with a few little added points. The SV is a fantastic bike in its' own right, a first 'big' bike or 18th bike (in my case anyway) and you never stop learning. Never pidgeon hole it as a learner bike.

The engine braking is a big plus to slow down for the twisty bits but equally throttle control requires extra care and control when feathering the power on the apex of a bend the same as a biger capacity bike.

SS bikes (for a gixer) are quite comfortable for 200 mile blats easily but some may experience high frequency vibes from the IL4 engine.

The sound of a CCC equipped SV IMHO sounds so much better than my yoshi on my bike. Thats something I miss from my SV.

i found the engine braking took me ages to get used to before i started using it to help me ride, il4 bikes are i think easyer to ride.

[Beenz]

i dont see it like that Kate? its what ever floats your boat, some ppl like sv's some like il4? personally i came from il4 to v twins but were all different.

Kwak, I appreciate your point but some peeps appreciate V2s AND IL4s, they are not exclusive.

Kate, I know what you mean, this place seems at times to be an us and them as in V2 v IL4 which is a shame. We all ride bikes and should respect that.

[fizzwheel]

the little 650's can go as fast and handle, its prob better than 90% of its riders. lots of ppl see the il4 route as step up? i see it as a diff engine configuraiton? lots of ppl buy the cbr's and gsxr's because there great bikes not becasuse there any better than the little 650.

F*cking halleujiah. Nice post Kwak I totally agree.

I'm not going to get into a p*ssing competition over this, But a standard SV is not going to keep up with a SS600 on a twisty road. If both bikes are ridden be equally competant riders and both know the road equally as well.

SS600 has another what at least 20bhp more. Its got a better chassis and better brakes, if you can ride it to take advantage of this you're going to be a lot faster over the same section of road.

I think and this goes back to toypop's excellent post, is that SS600's are bought by wannabe riding gods, who've just passed their tests etc etc, whereas SV's are bought by riders who have just passed their tests but are'nt afraid to admit that they are'nt ready for a bigger bike. Or that perhaps just perhaps the SV meets all their needs and they dont feel lacking in the trouser department when it comes to admiting that.

What I think is more relevant is that the SV is easy to ride, its easy to make the most of its power delivery and chassis. Its also extremely satisfying to rag the tits off it, which is something you can't do on a bigger bike. Its that old adage, sometimes less is more.

So to answer the question. No you shouldnt be embarresed about turning up to a bike meet on an SV. I'm not I never have been and I continue to not be. Every time I switch between the GSXR and the SV, the SV always leaves me with a grin. But so does the GSXR its as kwak says, a different type of grin.

[kwak zzr]

Kwak, I appreciate your point but some peeps appreciate V2s AND IL4s, they are not exclusive.

Kate, I know what you mean, this place seems at times to be an us and them as in V2 v IL4 which is a shame. We all ride bikes and should respect that.

i did say "we are all different" didnt i;)

[Grinch]

Should i feel embarressed in the company of supersport 600s?

No...

Its the rider at the end of the day... If Jax can **** all over a Hayabusa while out on her M600 (10 year old bike) and I can make R1 riders feel slow on my 8 year old SV then so can you.

[kwak zzr]

in the late 90's i was looking to buy a fireblade "urban tiger jobbie" and i remember a honda dealer saying to me that lots of ppl buy fireblades and tend to part x them a year or 2 on for the cbr600? like fizz said you can rag a cbr600 and it'll go where you point it but you cant rag a blade you have to respect a blade, jelster will prob agree you have to think a little more before you twist the wrist.

[kwak zzr]

mate of mine got a busa last year, it was the biggest fastest thing he could afford and god was it quick in a straight line! the mate in question had only had his licence a year or so, on welsh rides out i had to keep stopping and waiting for him? on my iccle 650 learner bike :)

[LeeSV]

SV is as capable as any SS600 on public roads so what is there to be ashamed of? Very fun when the fellow in front is on a CBR/GSXR and can't get you out of his mirrors.

[Grinch]

I also worry that if I get something bigger then the SV I will loose my licence, which I have already come close to. Maybe one day when I think I have pushed every single last ounce of fun out of the SV I might upgrade, but knowing me I'll just buy another SV. MAYBE even a pointy one, but don't hold your breath.

[kwak zzr]

"POINTY" Mr Grinch!!:smt103

[Grinch]

I know... its those tail lights, its the only bit I love. Though I think the new LED GSXR tail section would look rather nice on a curvy.

[21QUEST]

SV is a gurly bike- FACT...mostly ridden by girls and boys who can handle a proper bike.
IL4 riders are shandy drinking wotsit-FACT.....oh and I have them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I truly can't understand both sides(is that even right?). If I done you then I'm numero uno anyways- end off :rolleyes:

Both sides are as bad as each other at the end of the day. Plenty of silly acting IL4 and non-IL4 riders around.
Personally in general, I have time for everyone on two wheels. That includes scooter and moped riders

Years ago when one use to turn up at Boxhill, I and a mate at work used to sometimes go on our second bikes complete with rack and top boxes. The state of the bike would even make Kwak spin on his head:eek: .
He on an XJ600 and me on Bros/XR250. Turn up and yes indeed, you should see some of the faces :grin:

Did we care much? Nah...just made sure we parked next to the really nice shiny bikes that looked like they only ever came out on Sunday morning in summer. Found it very amusing.

What the muppets did know was that he had an R1 at home and I had a ZX7R :wink: .

Anyways in my opinion people should accept the SV for what it is and the SS600 riders should ride their bike better and get their heads out of the sand. Heck the SS600 don't even qualify as extentions anyway;)

SV650.ORG rocks :thumright:


Ben

[kwak zzr]

a few years ago at the wheel of worefield pub meet 2 hells angles used to turn up on rat C90's together with tattoos, pudding style lids and leather waist coats? no one said BOO to them.:)

[neio79]

To answer the original question!!

Only if i was on a curvy!!!! LOL

Joke guys, now running for cover!:smt064

[andyaikido]

I'm moving to an SS600 soon but if my bike hadn't been totalled I would have happily kept my SV for another year or two.

I'm changing, not for more power (my license is in tatters as it is) but for experience of a different engine type and better handling as I intend to spend more time on track this year (again, because of my license).

As for feeling embarassed about turning up on an SV? No way! I've only ever had positive coments about my bike, usually how it sounded, but anyone who thinks they are superior because they ride a bigger/faster(top speed-wise)/more expensive bike isn't worth paying attention to.

Besides, the faster the bike is, the less excuses you have for being over taken by a RVF400, SV, ZXR400 or similar "girls" bike.

[John 675]

As stated the sv has power from the moment the light flicks green, i have not yet had a bike or car that has personally beat me, infact i yanked the throttle that hard that my front wheel was lifting and i still won, i dont give a crap about what other bikes/cars can do because there is always a bigger fish except in car terms it costs you an extra 3k on ontop of purchase price.

i agree with Northwind about corners though i need some major work on keeping a nice tight line, as i have also had an off from paniking after a car almost hitting me.

I love my SV Stuff everything else

[Pedrosa]

As stated the sv has power from the moment the light flicks green, i have not yet had a bike or car that has personally beat me,

i agree with Northwind about corners though i need some major work on keeping a nice tight line, as i have also had an off from paniking after a car almost hitting me.

I love my SV Stuff everything else


MrLylac...I thinking you very funny guy. You maybe living in very nice old people place if you fastest thing around,no? You saying you go fast very fast in straight line, but no able go round corners? So what is point of going fast in straight line? This me think I feel very odd.:cool:

[The Basket]

Nah.

Stuff 'em

[John 675]

MrLylac...I thinking you very funny guy. You maybe living in very nice old people place if you fastest thing around,no? You saying you go fast very fast in straight line, but no able go round corners? So what is point of going fast in straight line? This me think I feel very odd.:cool:

No i just make sure everything is behind me, and if the speed limit is 70 then i get there before them,
and like what was said with IL4's the SV's tend to get there first,
my corner speed is about 50mph on a good corner which just isnt good enough, i like going fast in a straight line because i just plain enjoy drag racing ( only OFF the road may i add ) were not all 7 stone wet through motoGP stars you know :p , but if im going to excel on the track then i need to be much faster on corners.

and its Lyle lol,

[Pedrosa]

Mr.Lyle I so sorry thank you very much for mistake with name. You right I carry maybe too much weight now for 800cc bike, but bike make very happy smiley through fast corner. You see me go fast through corners no? I be go faster at jerez as problem with rear of bike me hoping be fix by then. Valerie no outbraking me anymore for sure I am thinking.:cool:

[Marshall]

Should i feel embarressed in the company of supersport 600s?

nope, not at all, my 650 was much better looking than my mates gsxrs etc. sounded 10x better, and ridden properly (somthing i cant do) completely fast enough. i never rode it without getting off after with a big smile on my face. If other SS600 ridered want to take the P155, they have obviously never ridden one lol.

i wish i haddnt sold mine now, especialy as i feel ive bitten off more than i can chew with the Daytona.

[kwak zzr]

nice to see you back marshall.

[Balky001]

I totally know what you mean - when I had the SV which I totally loved I did always think people did judge you as a bit light weight even though they respected it was a good bike (only to find out some judge you whatever you ride e.g. ALL GSXR riders are nutters, IL4's have no personality or torque!). My riding mates had SP2/GSXR1000&600/R1 and CBR600RR and I never used to fall behind except on long straightsoccassionally. That said, now I ride GSXR600 K2 I'm much faster round the corners than I was on the SV (and brake much later) but being quick isn't the be all and end all of riding. The guys I used to ride with are quick but they have all given up riding on the road as they feel its too dangerous (actually, they just got bored of riding/bikes but wont admit it) so I'd rather know people that ride regularly regardless of their bike rather than those who keep a shiny sports machine in the garage. Don't be embarrassed.

[gettin2dizzy]

wow- longest discussion in a long time.
One review i read of BMW F800 v SV650S had it right.

The F800 has superior parts in every department, but the SV just works better!
Every review always states SV as 'great for beginners and experts' along the lines of pretending your in the minitwins :)

How i'd love to see suzuki make an SV with a compact 800cc engine and gsxr brakes and suspension.
Reason i got an sv? was the biggest bargain insurance-performance wise. Only something like a 990 superduke or a BMW K1200s would tempt me away now!