View Full Version : Stupid, ignorant BMW Rider...
So I'm heading home the other night to see the Mortgage advisor. I'm on the SV for traffic reasons and lo and behold there's an almighty jam. I start to filter (as you do) and I notice a slow bike in front of me. i slow down a bit.
When I catch up with the idiot he's doing the same speed as the cars (I'm talking slipping the clutch in first slow speeds here) *between* two of them wobbling and swerving side to side! :shock:
1) Git held me up for way too long! Eventually had to go around the cars on the hard shoulder and then start filtering again :evil:
2) This moron is one of the reasons car drivers (in general) hate bikers filtering. If I'd been in my car and he'd hae been doing that I would not have been happy!!! :evil:
I don't mind him not filterin (his choice) but if you look over your shoulder and see someone who is then get out of their way! Don't do car speeds between two of them.
Sorry rant over... :evil: :evil:
Stu
yeah I hate it when they don't move over even tho its obvious your moving faster....
Doesn't happen very often but annoying when it does. Can usually just switch lanes and filter the other lane
Blimey
sounds like the guy was not very confident and going about building up to filtering all the wrong ways.
Got stuck behind someone in a sililar situation on the M25 the other day would not move over despite the queue of bikes so we all broke left through a gap and went down between lanes 1 & 2 then back in front of him, but it was bloody annoying. :evil:
BaggaZee
08-12-04, 02:42 PM
Eeejit. :roll:
nuntius
08-12-04, 02:45 PM
There's no point in doing that, that's not actually filtering, it's called 'driving in an imaginery third lane' and acheives nothing except increased risk of being crushed. If he wasn't going to be filtering properly then he should have just stayed in a car lane.
theres a guy who does this to me nearly every night on the a2... he knows im behind him but he just doesnt pull over... and as its 2 lanes I dont have the option of pulling over and undertaking...
I do pull over for bigger bikes cos I hate being held up but there have been occasions where Ive daydreamed for a sec only to realise someones come up behind me. But as soon as i realise and i can move i do.. this guy doesnt....
I think this guys on a beamer too.... :evil:
nuntius
08-12-04, 02:51 PM
I think this guys on a beamer too.... :evil:
Lends weight to the belief that BMW riders aren't proper bikers.
Lends weight to the belief that BMW riders aren't proper bikers.
Oooh! Controversial! :twisted:
Is it really worth getting that excited about? :?
wolverine04uk
08-12-04, 03:53 PM
I used to have this with a Deuville rider on my commute home. Did exactly the same thing, actually went slower than the cars either side of him. Wouldn't let me by. Really pi$$ed me off. Used to dread seeing him ahead. Grrr. :evil:
Mythkind
08-12-04, 05:50 PM
Everyone has to learn how to do it properly. I'm sure none of you were born with the skills and expertise in how to filter. I for one am a relatively new rider and have just got my new SV and I do filter slowly because I'm still learning the capabilities of the bike. If someone comes up behind me then, if there is space, I will pull over, but I will not hurry up just because some impatient biker wants me to, thereby increasing my risk of having an accident. Its very easy to forget how it feels to be a newbie on a new machine.
MK
Is it really worth getting that excited about? :?
probably not but at the time its just frustrating...
I tend to be tolerant of learners because we were all there once... I did this journey on my cg when it was a lot scarier and remember it well!!
but when you want to ride a bit faster than the boxes next to you and you get held up by a biker I look at whats going on. If its wall to wall traffic and theres nowhere for him to go, fair enough. I will go at his speed with no probs and not get frustrated.
Its when the guy in front KNOWS you are there, KNOWS you and all the other bikes behind you want to go faster than the cars and him but STILL blocks you even though theres room for him to pull over and let you through that when I get wound up a bit...
I find having the loud can and riding with full beam very few people pull out in front of me :D so I do feel I can go faster in traffic. I understand some people arent as comfortable with that and go slower... fair play to them.. you gotta ride how you are comfortable or youre not safe.
but the issue isnt how fast should you filter but one of pulling over and letting people past if their choice is to go faster... to block someone deliberately is just.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
wyrdness
08-12-04, 05:59 PM
If someone is filtering right behind me and looks like they want to come pas then I let them. However, I sometimes find that they're then not as fast as me. I also find that other bikers want to get past my harley much more than they want to get past the SV - even if I'm filtering at over 30mph on the harley.
Everyone has to learn how to do it properly. I'm sure none of you were born with the skills and expertise in how to filter. I for one am a relatively new rider and have just got my new SV and I do filter slowly because I'm still learning the capabilities of the bike. If someone comes up behind me then, if there is space, I will pull over, but I will not hurry up just because some impatient biker wants me to, thereby increasing my risk of having an accident. Its very easy to forget how it feels to be a newbie on a new machine.
MK
agreed. Filtering can be dangerous and it only takes a little mistake and ur stuffed, as i found out the other day. Luckily the car driver was on the ball and braked in time not to kill me. Wish i'd stopped and thanked them but probably would have just got shouted at, and the middle of the road isn't the best place.
Be careful out there
Fuggin muppets!!
Coming back from Cumbria a few weeks abck there were 2 harleys hogging the white line I wouldn't say they were going slow but the front guy was dragging his feet. Cars were stationary and it looked like he either had no confidence or no balance. Whichever people like this should stick to a lane until they grow a pair of cojones!
Mythkind
09-12-04, 12:34 AM
Lets not forget that most car drivers don't inspire confidence in filtering. I'd only had my bike literally a couple of hours and some old b***ard moved out to the centre line forcing me to momentarily travel in the opposing lane towards fast moving oncoming traffic. Riding a bike and filtering is dangerous enough without these pillocks trying to make you a stain on the road.
MK
northwind
09-12-04, 12:43 AM
I quite often find I pick up a trail of bikes in heavier traffic... I think I've got a pretty good filtering head, I rarely find myself in an outright bad situation due to healthy paranoia, but at the same time i make better progress than most folks... I've had slower filterers move over and then pick up to my pace to follow as well, they seem to realise that it gets them there faster than blocking me up...
At first it made me feel good, to have people following my lead like that, but thinking about it more it started to bother me... I'm quite happy to stake my safety on my decision making in traffic, but I don't see how anyone else can choose to trust in a total stranger who might turn out to be barking mad... And it seems like quite often there are people just going "If he can get through there, then so can I..." Sorry mate, but maybe you can't, and chances are you're watchigmy rear wheel when you should be watching the cars who might be about to try and kill you...
We do / did all have to learn. But common sense says you don't ride at the cars barely moving pace in between them wobbling backwards and forwards. If that's the case you stay behind the cars. When I'd just passed that's exactly what I did. Filtered when I thought it was safe and stayed in behind them when it wasn't. I still do today - although I know know I can filter much more than when I passed.
It was the fact that this guy knew I was there, and still just wobbled all over the place. Biking is dangerous enough without someone doing stupid tricks like that...
Stu
You're assuming that whoever's following you isn't paying attention to the traffic ahead... I prefer to follow other bikes, that way I'm not pressured.
U watch the bike in front and then do the maneuver if it's safe for u to follow.
I've only commuted into town 4 days this year and it was an eye opener. Narrow gaps between cars... not at all like the filtering you do on the M25 or something where it IS practically a whole lane's space between...
It's quite alot to think about, watching traffic ahead, keeping an eye on bikes behind and staying ready to hop out the way of faster bikes.
It amazes me that us newbies don't make MUCH worse mistakes in those situations... :?
:D
howardr
09-12-04, 10:39 AM
I'm glad someone else has noticed how rubbish BMW riders are!
[runs for cover]
It was the fact that this guy knew I was there, and still just wobbled all over the place. Biking is dangerous enough without someone doing stupid tricks like that...
was he on a harley? wonder because I let one through last night only to catch up with him... Ive followed him before on the a2 and at slow speed hes wobbling all over the place... every time I see him its the same.... its either him or slow speed on his harley is crap...
I remember starting to filter and was hesitant and pulled over and sat in traffic... now im more confident... but at the end of the day it all comes down to attitude, understanding and remembering we were all newbies once...
when I ride I try not to pressurise bikes in front out of the way if Im going faster - I remember learning my filtering on a knackered cg and I remember how hard it was to concentrate on everything then. I understand were all at different levels of experience/confidence.
I love the feeling I get when Ive got off the bike after filtering. It takes so much concentration because youre checking everything...
lanes of traffic for police cars, bikes behind/in front, the cars in front, next to you, behind you, the speed cameras, the road hazards (have you noticed how the pot holes multiply in winter??!!), how your bikes doing and so much more over and over again... Ive yet to find anything else that can focus my mind like filtering on a bike. I feel so alive afterwards. :lol:
but the issue is ultimately the car drivers who have taken to bikes because blocking us in the cars hasnt worked so they block us on bikes... its the fact they have the room to pull over, its safe to do so, they know theres something behind but they DONT!!!
and I was wrong... its a deauville.... cos he did it to me this morning too... :roll:
Steve H
09-12-04, 01:43 PM
I'm glad someone else has noticed how rubbish BMW riders are!
[runs for cover]
Yeah, but surely the car drivers are worse. They are so bland and common..............and the cars are not much better! :wink:
.......Sweeping generalisation over!!
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