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kjames

14-12-04, 08:04 PM

Carsick

14-12-04, 08:17 PM

the actual theory bit should be easy. I haven't ever revised for one and got 34/35 first time, then 35/35 both of the second times.
The hazard perception is a little bit trickier.
It's not that the hazards are difficult to spot, it's dealing with how they decide if you spotted it.
Basically, the idea is that you click when something happens on the screen that you think might cause you to have to change direction or speed, in reality it's just click on the random thing they have chosen for that clip, and none of them account for bike specific hazards either.
Best plan is to get the dvd or a piece of software to practice.
Good luck, anyway.

northwind

14-12-04, 08:28 PM

I got the book, but in the end I got full marks :) It was only really useful for the silly questions like tram lines, and other signs that you never actually see, IMHO.

Professor

14-12-04, 08:32 PM

Hi all.
well, part 1 of my 'get my bike license' plan has started.

I've booked my theory test for jan 7th. so my question is.
I've had a full car license since i was 17, urm 14yrs now and 2 yrs riding a scooter. does everyone think i'll need to buy one of those 'pass you theory test' books or will my general road knowledge be enough??

what is the format, is it just highway code type stuff??
cheers

General knowledge may not be enough. I had been driving for 27 years
when I was due to take my bike theory test but I decided I need to
prepare for it properly. I recommend you read the latest edition of the
Highway Code + get yourself a computer CD which randomly generates
bike theory exams (preferably, a pirate copy to avoid paying the £10 or
so official price).

Sudoxe

14-12-04, 08:33 PM

If you have a PC (duh!) then get the DSA bike theory cdrom. Its the same layout as the test, all the questions. sit there for an hour or so and your be sorted.

Dan

Mr Toad

14-12-04, 09:27 PM

There are some pretty sticky questions, eg. What is the maximun width of trailer that can be towed behind a motorbike ?
Until I read the question book, I didn't even know you could tow a trailer :shock:
That Q came up in my theory exam :lol:

Drop me a PM with your details and I'll post it to you - I doubt I'll ever read it again :lol:

kjames

14-12-04, 09:31 PM

thanks for the advice guys.. i tihnk i'll go and get a Cd. i'd feel a right idiot if i failed... and i'm sure i'd take a bit of stick.

timwilky

14-12-04, 09:44 PM

Get the cd. every question is on it. sit at your computer for the weekend and work your way through until you are consistantly passing

Worked for me 100% pass.

No it is not like the old highway code. there are some silly questions so watch out for the "not's" and which 3 of the 4 type questions. and crap about trams.
when I did my cart test the only place that had trams was blackpool so no stupid things about signs for trams etc then. Now there is usually 2 out of the 35 question that include a tram related question

The Mass

14-12-04, 09:50 PM

kjames,

Don't bother with the CDrom, waste of money my good friend.
When you book the theory test, they should also send youa CDROM with your confirmation, in this it gives you a little taster of what to expect on the theory and hazard perception.
The theory is pretty straight forward, if you've been driving fo that long, you should know the basic ones, however, the book i bought for pennies had all the questions that you could get asked.
If you want to borrow the book PM me :wink: it helped me.

Mass

conn311

14-12-04, 10:47 PM

Hi, I have the "Driving Test Theory 2003/2004 edition" (2 cd set) - I worked through all the questions over a weekend - till I knew them all off by heart - got 100% on that part of the test. There are also a shed load of hazard perception clips which I found really useful - I ended up gettting 80% or so for that part (this was just over a year ago).

..anyhoo the point of all this - you can have the CD's free if you like, just pm me your address (or where you want it sent) and I'll post it...

also contains a digi version of the highway code....

let me know if you want it :D

Cheers (and good luck), Connell.

nuntius

14-12-04, 11:26 PM

I used the book and over a weekend studied it,basically read it once through, got 100% on that bit, and 80% on the hazard bit. But the hazard bit is stupid as there are bits i would click the button at because i can see something coming up (i.e. a truck approaching from an ajoining road 100m away) that i don't think you are meant to notice.

Anyway, there is a sample test on the dvla website, you should just use that

kjames

15-12-04, 09:49 AM

Conni you have mail...

thank you for all the other offers of books etc, i think i'd be better with the CD's as it'll be more like just meesing around with my computer, rather than reading a book :( and i'm sure some pikey postman would have them away!! (appologises to any biker postman)

i think i'll also try the dvla website. and fingers crossed theory test will be in the bag. and then plan to do my practical test probably march time.... just in time for the sun.

conn311

15-12-04, 01:52 PM

Karl - they're on their way

:-)

Twit

27-12-04, 11:22 AM

Buy the hazard perception disk for the PC NOW!!!!! The test is an utter nightmare and it seems, on my small survey, that it is actually harder to pass if you have driven for a while as your 'perception' of a hazard will be different from a new driver and DVLA etc. The test is rubbish.......

Oh.... And I failed it 4 TIMES!!! The haighway code bit is dead easy mind you!!!!

Professor

27-12-04, 11:38 AM

TSM

27-12-04, 12:38 PM

The hazard preception is easy, i got about 65/75 (something like that).

My bike instructer said that that was a very good score and that most people were getting arround 40-50. The pass mark is only 35.

I think it should be made harder & quicker.

Flamin_Squirrel

27-12-04, 01:34 PM

No, it should be removed because it has no baring what so ever on your ability to spot hazards.

GC-SV

27-12-04, 02:02 PM

i went to the library and got the theory test book.
went through every question and ticked off the 1's i got write immediately then went over the incorrect ones, and so on until i could answer them all right. i think theres about 1200.

alot of them will be 2nd nature to you but you will realise that there are 1's which will give you problems.
the test picks 35 at random so it could be any of the tricky 1's.
i ended up getting 35/35 so the hard work paid off.

the hazard perception i found more tricky because i didn't really know what they were looking for. i ended up clicking at nearly everything and ended up with 0 points on 1 of the videos for overuse of the mouse, so be careful and don't use the mouse too much.
i think i ended up with about 45??

good luck, hope you pass.

27-12-04, 09:43 PM

No, it should be removed because it has no baring what so ever on your ability to spot hazards.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Stig

28-12-04, 12:18 AM

What's a theory test then :roll: :shock:

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Passed all my licences many years ago. I can ride/drive anything from a moped to a tank (literally) and anything between :wink: :wink:

Professor

28-12-04, 08:49 AM

The father of one of my colleagues passed his test in the 1930s. That gave
him the right to drive anything, including a tank or a trolleybus!

fourpaws

30-12-04, 08:22 AM

That hazard perception test is really really poor in my opinion. The camera view is so static that on one clip I was clicking as there was a car overtaking coming towards me and all of a sudden the car was turning left !! No prompting or anything. However I do think that it should be still included in the test but it does need altering to be more up to date.

Jabba

30-12-04, 08:54 AM

It should be remembered that in the Hazaed Perception Test you should be looking for the "developing hazard", i.e. a vehicle moving towards a side-road junction, etc.

Parked vehicles, for example, whilst being a hazard, are not a developing hazard because they are startionary.

IIRC, on the test you will see 14 videos and there will be 15 developing hazards, i.e. on of the videos will have 2 DHs. In other words, you could get 100% on the HP test with only 15 mouse-clicks provided that the DHs were spotted quickly enough.

Good luck with the Theory Test. Hmm......actually, for anyone with a bit of nouse and streetwisedness, luck shouldn't come into it. Good preparationis the key :thumbsup:

Kate

30-12-04, 11:44 AM

I did my theory several weeks ago which was interesting as I've been driving cars for over 10 years. I didn't bother with the book or cd, there is an online service that has all the same questions you get at the test and you can pay £5 for a months access and use it as much as you want. I used that and just read up on the highway code. The questions were exactly the same as in the test.

www.drivingtheory.net

I got full marks for the theory and about 50 for the hazard perception bit, which, in my opinion, is a total waste of time. You are supposed to click the mouse when you see a hazard (which included pedestrians on the other side of the road far far away?) and also click again when the hazard develops. You can't just click lots of times as otherswise you get 0 points for that video clip. You get 14 clips, I haven't been so bored in all my life!

kjames

30-12-04, 05:56 PM

thanks for the CD's conni.

being playing on them today. The theory test side fo things seems fine. getting 90% + on that side of things (just the odd strange question,i.e what cc motorbike can you tow a trailer with)

the hazard perception part is urm odd. i tihnk if you ride a bike(ahem, scooter) you naturally percieve a lot more things as hazards. i could be clicking all day with some the roads that are shown in the clips.

anyway, the big day is jan 7th, jsut got to find my paper part of my license before then (now thats a stupid idea, 2 parts to the license!!)

k

kjames

08-01-05, 06:53 PM

well the big day has been and gone and . i failed the hazard perception part. got 44 out of 75.. pass mark is 45... bugger!!!!.
the really annoying thing is i know i spotted all of the hazards as they are blatant, but i must have just been clicking at the wrong time or not clicking enough as they changed.

got 34 out of 35 for the highway code bit.
so new test booked for end of jan.

so any advice. i simply clicked as i saw a hazard. i think i should of been clicking through-out the hazard.
i.e car at junction (click) car starts to pull forward (click) car goes into your path (click) ?????

any advice.

TSM

08-01-05, 07:16 PM

Sorry to hear that.

Next time you will not fail.

Kate

08-01-05, 07:44 PM

Damn, that sucks. I did mine last month so its still fresh in my memory. The instructions you get at the beginning of the hazard perception test are not that clear IMHO.

What you need to do is click the mouse when you spot a hazard, and then click again if the hazard develops. Eg, click when you see a car pull up and about to pull onto the road, and then click again if the car actually pulls out. The other classic example is when you are following a cyclist. Click to show you've spotted the cyclist and click again when he moves into the middle of the road to cycle round a parked car. Sometimes you can click more than twice as the hazard develops even more.

Hope that helps, and good luck with the next one!

GC-SV

09-01-05, 11:12 AM

sorry to hear that.

In my previous reply i said i got about 45, it was actually 55, after checking the paperwork to update my licence.

Anyway, its a bit of a bummer, when i came out i didn't know if i passed or failed because you just don't know what they are looking for.
Do i click at everything? will this be classed as overuse etc?

All you can do is do it again and be more active with the mouse.
Its not that we don't know what hazards are, its a case of clicking on the 1 that scores the points.

Once again, bad luck. Reapply and don't give up.