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I have just booked to do the bikesafe day at ace cafe on sunday 27th feb. I am told there are two other SVs booked for that day, any one on here :?:
Will
Good for you Will... you'll have an excellent day, and learn a great deal too!
Carsick
05-01-05, 03:00 PM
I'm vaguely trying to get myself sorted to book one nice and early.
Not gonna go up to Ace Cafe, though.
carsick, you might want to get on and book it as they're expecting a big take up on places from the london bike show at the end of january. if you leave it you have to wait a while before a near-ish date comes up.
Will
Whats Bikesafe then? Sounds interesting.
Carsick
05-01-05, 03:10 PM
I live quite a way from London. Will be booking it with Hants constabulary.
I just need to get round to phoning them, cos I can't find an email address that would be appropriate.
Frazer, got any ideas? I know who I need to phone but I'd much rather email, I'm a bit of a sociophobe.
http://www.bikesafe-london.co.uk/
its run by the police - how to ride your bike without getting hurt, ideally
Whats Bikesafe then? Sounds interesting.
Something that you should definitely get involved in as soon as you've got a few miles under your bum!
Now that does look like a good idea. I think I will definitely be signing up for one of those, though probably at the Bromley site as that is closer.
Mr Toad
05-01-05, 03:16 PM
Whats Bikesafe then? Sounds interesting.
Something that you should definitely get involved in as soon as you've got a few piles under your bum!
Sounds painful :shock:
I'd get a gel seat if I were you :D
Flamin_Squirrel
05-01-05, 03:20 PM
Now that does look like a good idea. I think I will definitely be signing up for one of those, though probably at the Bromley site as that is closer.
Bromley site eh, how handy. I should probably sign up myself up also :oops:
Whats Bikesafe then? Sounds interesting.
Something that you should definitely get involved in as soon as you've got a few piles under your bum!
Sounds painful :shock:
I'd get a gel seat if I were you :D
Thank you Mr Toad, I'll have you know my bum is pileless.
Now that does look like a good idea. I think I will definitely be signing up for one of those, though probably at the Bromley site as that is closer.
Bromley site eh, how handy. I should probably sign up myself up also :oops:
Hey, someone else local to me, woohoo!
I've got to wait for my licence and SV first, can't pick it up until a week on Saturday now :cry:
I think i should do the bromley one soon as the days appear to be highly recommended, i reckon its closer to me than the one from the ace cafe.
Kate - When do you actually take your test?
Mr Toad
05-01-05, 03:28 PM
Thank you Mr Toad, I'll have you know my bum is pileless.
It won't be after you get an SV :lol:
Have you seen the seat :wink:
Flamin_Squirrel
05-01-05, 03:31 PM
Now that does look like a good idea. I think I will definitely be signing up for one of those, though probably at the Bromley site as that is closer.
Bromley site eh, how handy. I should probably sign up myself up also :oops:
Hey, someone else local to me, woohoo!
I've got to wait for my licence and SV first, can't pick it up until a week on Saturday now :cry:
\:D/
Where 'bouts? I'm just along the road from westmorland shops.
And don't worry too much about not having your bike just yet, best to wait for the weather to improve a little I'd say 8)
I did a Bikesafe course with South Wales Police last autumn.
Took two days and covered about 250 miles................. absolutely brilliant and I'm much more confident as a result.
Best £80 I've spent in a long time.
One chap complained to the course leader (was was the copper who trains the local police riders :shock: ) that he'd been told he was riding his CBR600RR like "Driving Miss Daisy" :lol:
I think i should do the bromley one soon as the days appear to be highly recommended, i reckon its closer to me than the one from the ace cafe.
Kate - When do you actually take your test?
My DAS starts on Saturday, my test is on Wednesday and I'm picking up my SV on Saturday 15th.
Where 'bouts? I'm just along the road from westmorland shops.
I'm actually in Purley, just down the road :)
I found the DAS pretty tiring but then i'd never been on a bike before i started it. Do you know where you are taking your test? I took mine in wallington which is over sutton way so they might send you there as well. Good luck though.
When you've passed....
The back brake on your SV will work, unlike the ones on your test bike. I did a fairly nice long skid with the **** end weaving about on my first ride after picking up my SV :shock:
Flamin_Squirrel
05-01-05, 03:56 PM
Where 'bouts? I'm just along the road from westmorland shops.
I'm actually in Purley, just down the road :)
Ahh. Small world :)
Wiltshire7
05-01-05, 04:08 PM
do u think the bike safe day is worth while for someone with as little experience as me? come febuary i will have been riding for 3 months, but not everyday. maybe a 2/3hour ride every 3rd day...
I'm doing the DAS over in Crystal Palace with Motag, but I can't remember where I'm doing my test. I'll check tonight.
I think I would like to do the Bike Safe thing as soon as possible as I plan to commute on the SV on a daily basis.
do u think the bike safe day is worth while for someone with as little experience as me? come febuary i will have been riding for 3 months, but not everyday. maybe a 2/3hour ride every 3rd day...
Yes - they won't have to knock any bad habits our of you :lol:
Seriously, it's a road-riding course and you'll be fine.
do u think the bike safe day is worth while for someone with as little experience as me? come febuary i will have been riding for 3 months, but not everyday. maybe a 2/3hour ride every 3rd day...
wilts7, i got my sv just before christmas and apart from a month on a 250 honda and a few years on scooters that is it as far as proper bike experience goes. the guy i spoke to said the earlier you do it, the better.
Will
do u think the bike safe day is worth while for someone with as little experience as me? come febuary i will have been riding for 3 months, but not everyday. maybe a 2/3hour ride every 3rd day...
wilts7, i got my sv just before christmas and apart from a month on a 250 honda and a few years on scooters that is it as far as proper bike experience goes. the guy i spoke to said the earlier you do it, the better.
Will
CoolGirl
05-01-05, 05:48 PM
There's no limits to when you do this - when I did it last year there were people that had only been riding for weeks and some that had been riding for decades. Some peopel were on their second or third visit as they found it a useful refresher. It's well worth the money and book as soon as you can as they fill up quick once spring is upon us.
I had lots of fun - doing a ton up the A1 with a police escort is very cool indeed. And they're not too fussy about tricked up bikes - in fact they were quite impressed by my old flamethrower!
Debs
http://www.hants.gov.uk/roadsafety/driverider/edge44.html
Link for the Hampshire Bike Safe course above for Carsick and anyone else interested.
Did it about 18 months ago - fantastic day, highly recommended.
Carsick
05-01-05, 07:20 PM
http://www.hants.gov.uk/roadsafety/driverider/edge44.html
Link for the Hampshire Bike Safe course above for Carsick and anyone else interested.
Did it about 18 months ago - fantastic day, highly recommended.
I was definitely planning on doing the edge, is that definitely the local bikesafe? I was under the impression that they were separate things.
Not sure what the actual difference between Bikesafe & Edge is - so far as I am aware they are the same principle - observed riding & 'feedback' - in theory they are not insured to provide 'training'. I think that Edge 44 is just the 'brand name' for Hampshire's Bikesafe course.
I definitely learnt a few tricks following his CBR from Petersfield back along the A272 - he reckoned we averaged 85mph, and I didn't see him touch the brakes once - correct line, correct gear, 'suitable' speed - far more effective and comfortable than caning it between corners and then hitting the brakes hard.
The website suggests that a lot of time is spent talking about bike security and dealing with accidents - there wasn't on the course when I did it - we filled out a couple of questionaires at the beginning, and then hit the road for the next 5 hours, which was nice!
Wiltshire7
05-01-05, 07:42 PM
i think ill book myself in then :)
i think ill book myself in then :)
You'll have a great time, and your eyes will be opened as you "unlearn" lots of the stuff with regard to lane/road positioning that you were taught in order to pass your test.
Ask 'em about "The Hendon Shuffle" :thumbsup"
I did Bikesafe off the back of last years london motorbike show.
Its a very good day and well worth it for the money.
I dont know how it works across the country but know it was subsidised quite heavily by TFL making it nice and cheap.
get you applications it, I had to wait over two months once I finally rang up in March (and that was for a weekday training!)
Have fun!
Can anyone recommend anything down my way (East Sussex) If not will probably try to get up to the Ace Cafe. Think I would benefit from the training, still a little unsure of the bike (only done about 350 miles on it). Hubby (and VFR) would probably accompany me.
chazzyb
06-01-05, 02:48 PM
Can anyone recommend anything down my way (East Sussex) If not will probably try to get up to the Ace Cafe. Think I would benefit from the training, still a little unsure of the bike (only done about 350 miles on it). Hubby (and VFR) would probably accompany me.
May have been mentioned earlier, but the Met also do their BikeSafe day out of their sports and social club: The Warren at Hayes, Kent (nr Bromley). I did one from there last Feb - still haven't go the bike clean.
Cloggsy
06-01-05, 02:55 PM
Bike Safe
The Bike Safe strategy was devised by North Yorkshire Police to counter a rising toll of motorcycle-related deaths. While road deaths generally have been falling, in recent years there has been an increase in deaths of motorcyclists - especially "born-agains" and riders of the new, high-performance breed of sports bikes.
Born again riders are those returning to motorcycling some years after learning to ride. Road-rusty, they can afford to buy and insure sports bikes with performance vastly outstripping that of the machines they learned on; a 180mph bike can be easily affordable for a middle-aged man with a clean driving licence.
Analysis of accidents in North Yorkshire showed the ingredients of a classic born-again fatal accident: A male rider between 35 and 45 on a recent-model sports bike rides from his home in a big city to a prime rural "scratching" road - scenic, fast, bendy, rising and falling - and exits a bend on the wrong side of the road; he either hits an oncoming vehicle or something solid at the roadside.
North Yorkshire Police developed the Bike Safe strategy, which has contained the rising toll. It is based on:
* Promoting advanced rider courses and expert-assessed rides, combined with targeted enforcement of laws governing dangerous or anti-social riding
* Involving riders and their interest groups in the policy-making process
* Working in partnership with local authorities, the motorcycle industry, dealers and the community
The scheme is endorsed by the Association of Chief Police Officers as "best practice" and has been taken up by many other forces. In 1998 Bike Safe received the Prince Michael of Kent National Road Safety Award. There is still a need for education and work with older riders, but there is evidence that many "born-agains" have accepted the Bike Safe message and they are responding enthusiastically to The Edge, a new national scheme with the same emphasis on improving rider skills, and organisations like the Institute of Advanced Motorcycling.
However North Yorkshire officers are now dealing with a new trend: Anti-social behaviour - especially inappropriate speed - among younger sports bike riders. Consequently the force has shifted the emphasis of Bike Safe towards enforcement and a harder line is being adopted across the county towards speeders, racers, white-liners and those whose anti-social behaviour spoils the quality of other people's lives in the county's towns and villages.
:roll:
Carsick
06-01-05, 05:18 PM
Only in North Yorkshire, eh.
The local one still seems quite keen on just teaching people to be better at riding.
Mr Toad
20-01-05, 09:04 AM
I've booked myself onto this course - same day 27th @ the Ace, so see you there
Even better, when I booked I was told that my local authority are funding places for riders, so I get the £30 back :D
I've booked myself onto this course - same day 27th @ the Ace, so see you there
Even better, when I booked I was told that my local authority are funding places for riders, so I get the £30 back :D
see you there Mr T :D
btw it is only london boro of sutton which is on the scheme to refund, just called bikesafe to ask.
Will.
pegasus
20-01-05, 10:45 AM
funny coincidence this thread- i just booked my course yesterday with suffolk constabulary for march £55
sharriso74
20-01-05, 11:09 AM
Just booked for the 9th of Feb at the Warren
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