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Pointless as this was I had a go at an R1 earlier, he was behind me coming off a roundabout then a lovely long drag style stretch of road in front. Up to about 60 mph the SV held its own quite well I was quite impressed, I was looking at the R1 in my mirror and at 60 mph he popped a wheelie, went past me on one wheel AND WAVED as he went past lol! Plus he went between two cars off in the distance still on one wheel. It was well cool although I felt like a biking microblip.
I need a faster bike. How much would I get for my SV? 2 months old, fully faired, datatool system 3 alarm etc?
Pointless as this was I had a go at an R1 earlier, he was behind me coming off a roundabout then a lovely long drag style stretch of road in front. Up to about 60 mph the SV held its own quite well I was quite impressed, I was looking at the R1 in my mirror and at 60 mph he popped a wheelie, went past me on one wheel AND WAVED as he went past lol! Plus he went between two cars off in the distance still on one wheel. It was well cool although I felt like a biking microblip.
I need a faster bike. How much would I get for my SV? 2 months old, fully faired, datatool system 3 alarm etc?
Tut tut, speed is for hooligans and numptys on the road, by urself a nekked Hornet and have some fun :P
Martin (Akula)
Tut tut, speed is for hooligans and numptys on the road, by urself a nekked Hornet and have some fun :P
Welcome to the dark side, my friend...............
[Although I'm not sure that I like the way that you've dissociated the Hornet and speed...........!!]
I need a faster bike.
No, you don't :wink: . Particularly in winter conditions. Trust me, the SV is fast enough to put loads of grins on your face all year long. Learn to ride better and master it before moving on to something else otherwise you're in grave danger of putting your life on the line.
This R1 rider was obviously a bit of a pillock and was riding wrecklessly if he was wheelieing between two cars, the price for which would most likely be a custodial sentence.
When I'd had my SV two months, I too felt it was suddenly slow and hankered after something with more power. After six months I realised that it was quite fast enough for most occasions and after having it for almost two years I can honestly say that I get more fun out of it now than ever - and it's still better than me.
by urself a nekked Hornet and have some fun
Again, no. The Hornet's a good bike but if you've got an SV now then it won't be any less fun than a Hornet unless, as sometimes happens, you don't get on with a twin and need a less characterful inline four.
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riding wrecklessly
The perfect typo - conveys what you meant better than the correct spelling :thumbsup:
by urself a nekked Hornet and have some fun
The Hornet's a good bike.....
True.
Steve H
06-01-05, 02:53 PM
What is this interest in the H*rnet on the Forum all of a sudden?
R1,s etc. fair enough but a H*rnet?!
IMHO.....Bland, Characterless, Slower (in the real world) and basically not as good a package as the SV. Give it up, please!
No Offence Jabba! :roll:
I think we have to be careful here that we don't create a hornets' nest with waspish remarks and bee mindful there are other bikes other than the SV. I though maybe if I was a little honey-tongued then this might stop Jabba from waxing lyrical about his bike. My antennae tell me that I should stop now and wing my way out of here... :lol:
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Anonymous
06-01-05, 03:07 PM
I need a faster bike.
Why? With your two tickets already you'll be banned soon. Perhaps start saving for a bus season ticket.
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:10 PM
Very Good.
I am certainly mindful that there are other bikes out there....However, this is a SV Forum after all and whilst opinions from riders of other models should be welcomed, lets not start to kid ourselves that the H*rnet is a better bike than the SV. :twisted:
chazzyb
06-01-05, 03:10 PM
I think we have to be careful here that we don't create a hornets' nest with waspish remarks and bee mindful there are other bikes other than the SV. I though maybe if I was a little honey-tongued then this might stop Jabba from waxing lyrical about his bike. My antennae tell me that I should stop now and buzz off out of here... :lol:
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Stinging!
Whilst i would have loved to have seen that how much power do you really need for the road. I'm only new to this biking game but i've had quick cars before and they wouldn't touch the SV in straight line. As far as i can see so far (i reckon i've only unleashed 10% of the bikes potential) the SV has enough power to provide all the fun i could ever want on the roads. Also I vaguely recall that the new R1s can do 130mph in 2nd, the point being? Lovely on a track i would imagine but for the roads? :-k
Also an R1, i think my licence would disappear in minutes unless i stacked it due to the bike being way beyond my abilities.
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:22 PM
Whilst i would have loved to have seen that how much power do you really need for the road. I'm only new to this biking game but i've had quick cars before and they wouldn't touch the SV in straight line. As far as i can see so far (i reckon i've only unleashed 10% of the bikes potential) the SV has enough power to provide all the fun i could ever want on the roads. Also I vaguely recall that the new R1s can do 130mph in 2nd, the point being? Lovely on a track i would imagine but for the roads? :-k
Also an R1, i think my licence would disappear in minutes unless i stacked it due to the bike being way beyond my abilities.
EXACTLY. Well said that man. Standard SV Quicker quarter mile than EVO 8. nuff said? :shock:
What is this interest in the H*rnet on the Forum all of a sudden?
It was in "Biking Issues" and, believe it or not, it wasn't me that started it :shock:
It was started by an SV-er who has/had one as a loan bike. Liked it, too, I think, other than what sounds like an issue caused by poor maintainance.
R1,s etc. fair enough but a H*rnet?!
Why "fair enough"? They're both bikes that aren't SVs.
IMHO.....Bland, Characterless, Slower (in the real world) and basically not as good a package as the SV
You ridden one? Bland and characterless they are not, I can assure you. Unless by "bland" and "characterless" you really mean boringly reliable. They work properly in wet weather, too :P
Slower in the real world? That's a brave call!!!
No Offence Jabba! :roll:
None taken. Course not :D
chazzyb
06-01-05, 03:27 PM
EXACTLY. Well said that man. Standard SV Quicker quarter mile than EVO 8. nuff said? :shock:
Until you stick a roundabout in the way.
EXACTLY. Well said that man. Standard SV Quicker quarter mile than EVO 8. nuff said? :shock:
Until you stick a roundabout in the way.
Oh god, not again, time to copy and paste half the ariel atom thread into here........ :lol: :lol:
Very Good.
I am certainly mindful that there are other bikes out there....However, this is a SV Forum after all and whilst opinions from riders of other models should be welcomed, lets not start to kid ourselves that the H*rnet is a better bike than the SV. :twisted:
In YOUR opinion, I am not trying to turn this forum into a Hornets Nest 2, i was adding MY opinion which is what forums are all about..
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steveH wrote Bland, Characterless, Slower (in the real world) and basically not as good a package as the SV. Give it up, please!
I would much rather have an Hornet than an sv, i have ridden a Hornet and owned an SV and IMHO the Hornet is a better bike, i come on here because the peeps here are friendly curteous and as a rule not usually so CLOSED minded....
Martin (Akula)
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:34 PM
Jabba, I did not say that you started it. Just noted that there is currently a lot of discussion over the Hornet on this Forum.
Yes, I have ridden a Hornet and stand by what i say.
Certainly, on todays overcrowded roads, the more useable torque of the SV would make it quicker at covering ground than a Hornet but maybe not in a straight drag race. (Not many Santa Pods around though! :wink: )
being totally honest, I have also ridden a mark one Fazer and reckon that is also better than the Hornet. Just my opinion though.
I am certainly mindful that there are other bikes out there....However, this is a SV Forum after all and whilst opinions from riders of other models should be welcomed, lets not start to kid ourselves that the H*rnet is a better bike than the SV. :twisted:
True - there have been enough defections to the "4-Pot Massive" in the last year and enough is enough :lol:
chazzyb
06-01-05, 03:43 PM
EXACTLY. Well said that man. Standard SV Quicker quarter mile than EVO 8. nuff said? :shock:
Until you stick a roundabout in the way.
Oh god, not again, time to copy and paste half the ariel three thread into here........ :lol: :lol:
They're (http://www.mopedarmy.com/photos/brand/68/132/)good bikes, I'll have you know!
:thumbsup:
Out of interest on the hornet debate, what insurance group are they?
Stuff the Hornets... the NEW R1s are absolutely GORGEOUS... *drools*
.... sex on wheels ...
... angels with rubber wings...
I want one... :lol:
being totally honest, I have also ridden a mark one Fazer and reckon that is also better than the Hornet. Just my opinion though.
We nearly agree :P
I would have bought a new MkII Fazer (the one with the fairing like the 1000) but didn't because:
1. They weren't availabe brand new by the time that I bought my bike
2. They dissolved into a pile of rust at the first sign of rain/salt.
The new Fazer is a pile of poo compared to the old one.
Out of interest on the hornet debate, what insurance group are they?
12.
Why? Thinking of defecting? :lol:
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:49 PM
Im being made out to be the villain here! :(
Thats it, the only thing to do is to go onto the Hornets Nest and start
lots of threads about how much better the SV is than the Hornet.
...........bait set! :wink:
Out of interest on the hornet debate, what insurance group are they?
12.
Why? Thinking of defecting? :lol:
Nah, i was just curious, i've only had the SV just over a month! I like the look of the hornet, especially the 2005 one but its another 2 groups higher up in the insurance. Having 0 years bike no claims and parking it on a street in clapham means that stings a bit! Er, no pun intended :lol:
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:53 PM
being totally honest, I have also ridden a mark one Fazer and reckon that is also better than the Hornet. Just my opinion though.
We nearly agree :P
I would have bought a new MkII Fazer (the one with the fairing like the 1000) but didn't because:
1. They weren't availabe brand new by the time that I bought my bike
2. They dissolved into a pile of rust at the first sign of rain/salt.
The new Fazer is a pile of poo compared to the old one.
However, i didnt say that the Fazer was better than the SV.. did I? :wink:
Im being made out to be the villain here! :(
Thats it, the only thing to do is to go onto the Hornets Nest and start
lots of threads about how much better the SV is than the Hornet.
...........bait set! :wink:
Grrrrrrrr :P no not at all, and bearing in mind i dont even have a bike atm its hard for me to talk, but when i do ill get a hornet prob a 900 unless i get a huge influx of cash then ill get a Speed Triple or a TnT :)
Martin (Akula)
Im being made out to be the villain here! :(
Not by me :D
It's a good, healthy debate and I know that I'll get stick from time to time just for being here :lol:
Thats it, the only thing to do is to go onto the Hornets Nest and start lots of threads about how much better the SV is than the Hornet.
...........bait set! :wink:
Nah - they're more interested in Foccer-baiting and, like me, know that the SV is a good bike. Not the best, mind........ :P
And they'll only remind you about things like build-quality and front cylinders mis-firing in the wet :wink:
Bottom line is that there's very little to choose between any of the 600/650 budget bikes (with the exception of the Bandit) and which is actually the best will vary with the person offering their opinion.
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:55 PM
Out of interest on the hornet debate, what insurance group are they?
12.
Why? Thinking of defecting? :lol:
Nah, i was just curious, i've only had the SV just over a month! I like the look of the hornet, especially the 2005 one but its another 2 groups higher up in the insurance. Having 0 years bike no claims and parking it on a street in clapham means that stings a bit! Er, no pun intended :lol:
3 groups higher than the unfaired! after all, it does not have a fairing! :wink:
Bottom line is that there's very little to choose between any of the 600/650 budget bikes (with the exception of the Bandit) and which is actually the best will vary with the person offering their opinion.
...and then there's the new R1.... \:D/
Steve H
06-01-05, 03:58 PM
Jabba, well said, and i totally agree. Always good to play devils advocate though. :twisted:
Now, how bought that race? :wink: :wink:
3 groups higher than the unfaired! after all, it does not have a fairing! :wink:
That will be a reflection of the extra power and desirability (both of the Honda brand and the Hornet itself).
[Not to mention the higher repair costs in the event of an accident :oops: ]
Steve H
06-01-05, 04:06 PM
This goes back to what Steveo said. It all depends what you want from the bike.
I rode test a zx6r when Kawasaki were giving them away just before the 636 came out and it was....................okay. Fast but a little characterless.
Maybe an aprilia RSV though........but again totally unecessary for what i really need if i am realistic about it!
How about not buying a brand new budget 600/650 bike and getting a 2nd hand sports 600 instead? :twisted:
Fine if you actually aspire to own a plastic rocket.................
..............I'd prefer a CB1300 or a Z1000
New R1...
Oi!! Ping!!
Your record's stuck :lol:
Steve H
06-01-05, 04:10 PM
3 groups higher than the unfaired! after all, it does not have a fairing! :wink:
That will be a reflection of the extra power and desirability (both of the Honda brand and the Hornet itself).
[Not to mention the higher repair costs in the event of an accident :oops: ]
Extra power and ..........more weight, less torque, Worse sound, looks etc, etc, etc. :wink:
New R1...
Oi!! Ping!!
Your record's stuck :lol:
Only 'cuz everyone was ignoring me... :twisted:
:lol:
I can shut up about it now. :D
New R1.... *drools*
3 groups higher than the unfaired! after all, it does not have a fairing! :wink:
That will be a reflection of the extra power and desirability (both of the Honda brand and the Hornet itself).
[Not to mention the higher repair costs in the event of an accident :oops: ]
Extra power and ..........more weight, less torque, Worse sound, looks etc, etc, etc. :wink:
Extra power = 20bhp at the rear wheel
more weight = 9kg dry (a couple of fish suppers perhaps?)
less torque = 2ft.lbs (Wow, what a lot that is compared to the 20bhp..... :lol: )
Worse sound = subjective at best
looks = subjective (but the naked K3s a bit of minger if you're honest *runs and hides*)
Enough =;
Only 'cuz everyone was ignoring me... :twisted:
We wouldn't do that - it's just that you couldn't be heard amongst the Hornet bashing :wink:
How about not buying a brand new budget 600/650 bike and getting a 2nd hand sports 600 instead? :twisted:
Fine if you actually aspire to own a plastic rocket.................
..............I'd prefer a CB1300 or a Z1000
Jealous :lol: ;)
Nah. I'm too old :lol:
Go Jabba go Jabba =D> :notworthy: :notworthy:
Martin (Akula)
Steve H
06-01-05, 04:22 PM
........Only after ive had my final say!
Figures are not the be all and end all. Have you actually ridden the SV?
On the road, it comes down to where the power is produced in the rev range and the fact is that it is produced lower down and therefore much more usable on a V Twin. I dont want to rev the balls out of a machine to get it to work which is what you have to do with the Hornet!
Go Jabba go Jabba =D> :notworthy: :notworthy:
Just wind me up and point me in the right direction :lol:
My bike's the same, too :wink:
........Only after ive had my final say!
OK :thumbsup:
Figures are not the be all and end all
True - but you started it with the "less of this" and "more of that". I just quantified it for the benefit of the uninformed :wink:
Bit like the "Hornet has a pants tank range" comment of yesterday in another thread. I'm all for healthy discussion, but lets do it from a position of knowledge 8)
Have you actually ridden the SV?
Yes.
On the road, it comes down to where the power is produced in the rev range and the fact is that it is produced lower down and therefore much more usable on a V Twin
Doesn't that depend also on the bike's gearing?
I dont want to rev the balls out of a machine to get it to work which is what you have to do with the Hornet!
Not strictly true - for example, my bike will pull cleanly from about 1500revs in 4th. It was this user-friendliness and tractability that won the day (and my wallet) for the Hornet. For the newbie that I am (or was), it is the easier bike to ride. For me, that is.
However, I do agree that to get the fastest acceleration I need to be in the powerband - say 5000 to 12000rpm - but that's a healthy powerband and the engines not actually all that peaky compared to many 4-pots, particularly the supersports ones.
And revving it is great fun :lol:
Nothing wrong with the SV (and I challenge anyone on here to find a post of mine which slags the bike off), but each to their own eh?
Carsick
06-01-05, 04:45 PM
This is probably irrelevent now, but I'm gonna post it anyway, just cos I feel like it.
I don't think it's the slightest problem to discuss another bike alot on this forum, after all, it was done in Biking Issues.
I would be bored to tears if we just sat here day after day discussing only the SV.
Like Jabba says, numbers are just numbers, you have to ride a bike and make your own judgement.
I think when comparing bikes that are relatively similar (like the SV and Hornet) you shouldn't sit there and say the SV (or Hornet) is better, because you don't know what goes on inside another riders head.
I love my SV but I also quite like the look of a Hornet, and maybe one day if I'm on the lookout for a naked bike, I might consider it.
Btw, b*ll*cks to political correctness, that's not the reason I said that stuff.
I said it purely because I like motorbikes, in all shapes and sizes, even choppers, in a way.
Steve H
06-01-05, 04:46 PM
.........okay, but the roll on times in the higher gears are better for the SV.
and, compared with the SV you DO have to thrash the Hornet.
Horses for courses. If i was in the market for a superbike, whilst the R1 is arguably the faster bike, I would go for an Aprilia RSV any day due to the same reason i chose the SV over the Hornet. Sound and drive.
Im guessing this is the reason mose people on here bought their SVs, but who knows! :roll: Please dont take this personally Jabba. Its just that work is a little slow this afternoon! :?
[quote=Akula]Go Jabba go Jabba =D> :notworthy: :notworthy:
Just wind me up and point me in the right direction :lol:
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So that's what you have to do to make a Hornet go :wink: :D
Thats it then its sorted a Honda Hornet is the BETTER of the 2 bikes...... man i wish their was a stirring icon :P
Martin (Akula)
Steve H
06-01-05, 04:55 PM
[quote=Akula]Go Jabba go Jabba =D> :notworthy: :notworthy:
Just wind me up and point me in the right direction :lol:
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So that's what you have to do to make a Hornet go :wink: :D
Thanks for that Steveo. I was beginning to feel outnumbered by the Hornet Owners on this SV site! :cry: .....and before you all have a go at me about being a biking xenophobe, lighten up. Its all a bit of fun. I think. :wink:
I think the hornet is a grotesque machine styled by a blind man but hey thats just my opinion! Im not denying the SV is fast because it is but some of you must get it when your not alongside a car - its a bike.
Its a CBR 600 and he blasts away from you, we all know we can laugh at nearly any car but car drivers know that too so where is the fun in that? Its so boring always winning against a car and always losing against a bike.
Carsick
06-01-05, 05:14 PM
This post doesn't have alot to with different bikes, I've already expressed how little I care about that topic (irrelevent post anybody)
Its a CBR 600 and he blasts away from you, we all know we can laugh at nearly any car but car drivers know that too so where is the fun in that? Its so boring always winning against a car and always losing against a bike.
Trust me dude, starting into this kind of attitude so early in your biking career will almost certainly get you killed.
Biking can be a dangerous pastime at the best of times, and when you start racing other bikes in the city centre, you're just asking for trouble.
mysteryjimbo
06-01-05, 05:26 PM
What is this interest in the H*rnet on the Forum all of a sudden?
It was in "Biking Issues" and, believe it or not, it wasn't me that started it :shock:
It was started by an SV-er who has/had one as a loan bike. Liked it, too, I think, other than what sounds like an issue caused by poor maintainance.
Who was that???? :lol:
Thats it then its sorted a Honda Hornet is the BETTER of the 2 bikes...... man i wish their was a stirring icon :P
Martin (Akula)
I'd say the Hornet has far better build quality, it is a Honda after all. As for ridability, i'd say it was a tie. The Hornet possibly just sneaks past though.
Thanks for that Steveo. I was beginning to feel outnumbered by the Hornet Owners on this SV site!
But there's only one of me :lol:
Its all a bit of fun. I think. :wink:
Absolutely, and it's the reason I spend so much time here.
I think the hornet is a grotesque machine styled by a blind man....
No-one who's seen my bike in person, so to speak, has offered that opinion before :shock:
Or if they have thought it they been too polite to say anything :lol:
Just for the record, my bike is blue (and not pink :lol: ). Is this really grotesque? Am I really going to regret this? :lol: :
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/twoponds/sv650/010604clean.jpg
Thanks for that Steveo. I was beginning to feel outnumbered by the Hornet Owners on this SV site!
But there's only one of me :lol:
Its all a bit of fun. I think. :wink:
Absolutely, and it's the reason I spend so much time here.
I think the hornet is a grotesque machine styled by a blind man....
No-one who's seen my bike in person, so to speak, has offered that opinion before :shock:
Or if they have thought it they been too polite to say anything :lol:
Just for the record, my bike is blue (and not pink :lol: ). Is this really grotesque? Am I really going to regret this? :lol: :
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/twoponds/sv650/010604clean.jpg
Noice boike m8 :winner:
Martin (Akula)
Horses for courses.
I'm not a H*nda fan, but H*nda make good "products". That's what there bikes feel like to me. You just know that they've had a million meetings about the bloody thing before the first time Joe public rides away on one.
Clinical and well thought out with excellent build quality.
At Suzuki they make barking mad bikes with superbly engineered gearboxes. They rust, they have issues but you'll always love a Suzuki.
GS, GSX, GSXR, TL, or SV they've made some bonkers stuff.
I posted about the new Hairnet because it's market related and moves the budget bike segement onward and upward. To keep up Suzuki will need to fit USD forks to their bikes as will Yamaha and Kawa. Z750 with USd forks anybody?
But when all is said and done we folks here know the truth. The Sv is best real world bike, for us! :thumbsup:
you dont need a faster bike,
the best mod u can do - as rider training - seriously.
pan euro's - not very fast bikes - but in the hands of a well trained police officer - will beat the riders on R1s on the road and the track.
im not an sv rider - but this is the best fourm about - so this is where my home is :)
im honda all the way :)
Can I just say that although I live in London doesnt neccessarily mean I race around in rush hour at 120mph, I do know my limits and see alot of friendly empty roads on my travels!
For example the road with the R1 had no pavements, was next to a heath, there were no pedestrians, 2 cars way off in the distance and the road was perfectly flat, straight and dry. Who wouldnt give that a seeing to?
This may be a bad way of thinking but no matter what bike I had I wouldnt go over my personal 'top speed'. But a more sophisticated bike has better suspension, better brakes, steering dampers etc so am I actually safer on one?
I drool over this bike daily.....
http://www.uemedia.co.uk/dca/dca.htm
sounds to me you should have joined the CBR club :)
i wouldnt be so sure about the better suspension being safer - but i do know what you mean . i do want a fireblade - even tho i havent even taken the CBR to its top speed yet and probably wont either.
i dont even use its full 17k revs when pulling away.
But a more sophisticated bike has better suspension, better brakes, steering dampers etc so am I actually safer on one?
Maybe, it's how you ride it. If the SV only had the R1's suspension and brakes and had an extra 20 BHP it'd be unbeatable.
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But a more sophisticated bike has better suspension, better brakes, steering dampers etc so am I actually safer on one?
Maybe, it's how you ride it. If the SV only had the R1's suspension and brakes and had an extra 20 BHP it'd be unbeatable.
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im sure someone from here could manage it -
but then it wouldnt be an SV650 - would it ?
Jelster
06-01-05, 09:27 PM
unless, as sometimes happens, you don't get on with a twin and need a less characterful inline four.
Can you quantitify "character" when used in this context ?
In line fours don't necessarily lack character, it is a very subjective term. You could say, that what some people find "bland" about the IL4 is indeed its character. And don't tell me that ALL IL4's are bland....
Generally, when used in motorcycle terminology, it defines quirkiness, or in some cases used as an excuse for poor/strange design and the results there of.
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tell u the truth - im a v- kinda guy.
id like a v4 on a bike - the character to me is the awseme noise when a half decent end can is fitted.
just love that sound.
i probably would be tempted to an sv again now if they were a bit more powerful - ive kinda grown used to the kinda power the CBR puts out.
(i want that car from the fast and the furious BTW - the supercharged one at the end)
sorry - should have wrote that i imagine the SV to be not as powerful than the CBR.
ive never ridden one before im just going on what others have said who have ridden them then onto the CBR
i've just done 110 miles on a GZ125 Marauder... 20 miles in I would have killed for an SV, a Hornet, R1 or CBR... or even a car.
Jelster
07-01-05, 12:24 AM
How about not buying a brand new budget 600/650 bike and getting a 2nd hand sports 600 instead? :twisted:
Fine if you actually aspire to own a plastic rocket.................
..............I'd prefer a CB1300 or a Z1000
Jealous :lol: ;)
Nah. I'm too old :lol:
:lol: 8)
I don't know what the problem is here, just go and buy a Gixer, beauty, performance, style and maybe a litlle bit of "character" too (oh no, it can't have that, as it's an IL4).....
http://www.urbanbiker.co.uk/galleries/images/steve/sept04.jpg
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Never had a gixer that new, had all the early ones. Nice lookin' and surely the top 600/750 of it's class. There's no sound quite like a IL4 screaming towards redline, but by then you're already at warp speed.
Twins are more tractable and forgiving on the road, IMHO.
Although if I move back to SA it'll be gixer 750/1000 for outrunning the boere :lol:
nuntius
07-01-05, 01:36 AM
On the issue of the R1 rider - he shouldn't be doing that anywhere, what if he'd hit something on the road whilst he was in between the two cars and flipped or twisted into the cars, causing a big crash. That sort of **** is what gives bike riders a really bad name.
On the Hornet - I like the exhaust more than the sv, but i hate the double seat. But then no one buys an sv as their first choice, but as a very happy compromise. I'd have liked a benelli tnt personally, but then i don't have money coming out of every orifice.
Steve H
07-01-05, 09:24 AM
Jabba, Yes nice bike. However, in my opinion there is something about it that looks somewhat 'unfinished' and it is nowhere near as good looking as the mark 1 SV. But hey, i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and thats one of the reasons i chose the SV over the Hornet!
.....by the way, you don't by any chance fancy Kathy Burke do you?! :wink: :wink:
Yes nice bike
:D
.....by the way, you don't by any chance fancy Kelly Brooke do you?! :wink: :wink:
:twisted:
sharriso74
07-01-05, 12:02 PM
Just traded up my SV to a Triumph Daytona 955 at the end of November. what with the breakng in period and the foul conditions it forced me to limit myself and get to know the bike better, so come the spring I'll be able to open her up a little.
Big bikes aren't danerous it's people who don't give them enough respect or try and ride them like a small bike.
rictus01
07-01-05, 12:09 PM
Just traded up my SV to a Triumph Daytona 955 at the end of November. what with the breakng in period and the foul conditions it forced me to limit myself and get to know the bike better, so come the spring I'll be able to open her up a little.
Big bikes aren't danerous it's people who don't give them enough respect or try and ride them like a small bike.
another triumph convert, good choice, had a t595 and a 955i Daytona in the past.
You won't be disappointed.
Cheers Mark.
I agree the Hornet is a well made, capable and attractive bike. Looks better in pink though! :wink:
The SV is an equally capable and attractive bike, but a different proposition altogether. Anything other than silver just looks stupid! :P
The GSXR 600 is IMHO the most attractive sports 600 on the market today, (especially in the all black ZK4 guise). =P~
But, there is only one bike that I'm sure we can all agree is the one that we all aspire to......
The Suzuki RV125 Van Van...... :notworthy:
http://www.motomag.com/essais/suzuki/pho/van01a03g.jpg
Flamin_Squirrel
07-01-05, 12:39 PM
Ack, I rode one of those when I was learning to ride *shudders*
Balky001
07-01-05, 12:42 PM
you dont need a faster bike,
the best mod u can do - as rider training - seriously.
pan euro's - not very fast bikes - but in the hands of a well trained police officer - will beat the riders on R1s on the road and the track.
im not an sv rider - but this is the best fourm about - so this is where my home is :)
im honda all the way :)
Your so right, I'm not a slow rider (middle of the intermediate groups on track days) and own a GSXR600, but some bloke completely whapped me the other day on the bends near Burnham (Bradwell I think, I'm not sure where we went) and he was riding a big old tourer (more sporty than a Goldwing but not much). His entry speed and exit speed on the bends were much faster than mine and his technique was good. I'd like to say he was a professional racer of Police Motorcycle trainer, but I never got the chance to ask, I guess he was just better as getting the most out of his bike. If he'd been on an SV he would have been even quicker.
That van van is terrible isnt it lol, it looks like it has a disease! I do appreciate that a good rider on an SV could blitz a poor rider on a gixer but what could a good rider do on a ducati 749?
I used to have a yamaha rs125dx, it was made in 1980 and was a pile of ****e basically. I remember I had a race with 2 aprillia rs125's and I destroyed them in the bends so I do see where your coming from but why not have it all thats what I think, brilliant handling, brutal acceleration and brakes. Works for me.
Balky001
07-01-05, 01:39 PM
I do appreciate that a good rider on an SV could blitz a poor rider on a gixer but what could a good rider do on a ducati 749?.
Poor? :evil: Hope you are not referring to my last comment mate! :wink:
Of course, with the same ability rider a 749 should do a SV, but if you do a track day, check out the 250/400cc club racer's lap times and see if you can get close, even on a 749 or 999. You will probably go faster on a better bike but you can also go faster on the same bike. Until you hold the lap record, you're not at the bikes full potential. Swapping to a faster bike is an easier option though, that's why I swapped from SV to GSXR for track days :) :wink:
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