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stowboy
12-01-05, 10:27 AM
hi-after splashing out on new svthou-i need a new helmet,as my bombhead £25.00 paddy hopkirk eggshell bonedome wont quite look right :riding: so has anyone tried one of these flip front jobs-like caberg?i like agv really-but them flippy jobs are everywhere man #-o
cheers

Flamin_Squirrel
12-01-05, 10:41 AM
I've got a Caberg Justissimo flip front jobbie, and an Arai Astro-J.

The Caberg a reasonable lid, not too heavy (for a flip front), and the visor is anti-fog as standard. However, after I got the Arai I began to see the Cabergs shortfalls. It's poorly ventilated, and I find it uncomfortable to wear after an hour due to its ear squishing tendancies. I'm using it to commute at the moment however, because of the anti-fog, the shortness of my jouney, and the fact I don't want to cake my Arai in salt if I don't need to!

Would I recomend the Caberg? Depends what kind of riding you do :)

Twit
12-01-05, 11:32 AM
I've got a Caberg flip front that I use all the time for going to work etc. No probs with it at all. It is a bit tight round the ears but I've found no probs with ventilation etc. I really like it, very handy for petrol stations etc!

Dicky Ticker
12-01-05, 03:04 PM
Because I wear glasses I use a flip front all the time I have a Caberg and
an EVO4[BMW] the later is well worth the extra £50,lighter much much
better fitting and def more streamlined The one thing I will say about both helmets is,use ear plugs,as both types and in general,flip fronts are noticably noisier than fixed front lids
Advantages are [glasses] and being able to flip up increasing your awareness to surrounding sounds in traffic and not to worried if your visor is dirty as you can flip the front which is much easier than trying to open the visor on a fixed with winter gloves on
For general commuting I think the flip-up has advantages but for fast riding i.e.long motorway work,or track days use a fixed front
Ideal situation is have the lid for the job---------one of each

Mac

Warren
12-01-05, 03:36 PM
ive got an AGV flip fronty thing .
to be honest - its horrible, its so heavy and not well fitting either- fine around the head but the strap feels a bit weak and keeps working itself loose.

when its down - the view is pretty restricted and its very very noisy.

on the plus side tho - the visor doesnt steem up much.

mabe other flip helmets are better - but this one has put me off pretty much and its only my "back up helmet" now despite being my most expensive helmet.

Warren
12-01-05, 03:37 PM
btw if your near-by, you can have a proper viewing of my *AGV flip face saftey equipment* if you like :)


post edited - thanks for pointing that out billymac

Dicky Ticker
12-01-05, 03:41 PM
Bikeage with your reputation for sending kisses would it be better if you rephrased your last post :lol:

Addenuf
12-01-05, 03:45 PM
I have a Shoei Syncrotec flip front and I'm well pleased with it. Makes the wearing of glasses possible....!
Cheers

gomura
12-01-05, 03:54 PM
hi-after splashing out on new svthou-i need a new helmet,as my bombhead £25.00 paddy hopkirk eggshell bonedome wont quite look right :riding: so has anyone tried one of these flip front jobs-like caberg?i like agv really-but them flippy jobs are everywhere man #-o
cheers
I've had the Schuberth Concept 1 for a couple of years and it started to loosen a bit so I decided to try the Caberg (here in the states its called the Jarow Mono X2). I like the way the Caberg feels and the flip-up shaded visor is great - I like it better than the one on the Schuberth. The Schuberth is actually better at staying clear in cold conditions and it's just better overall in cold weather. I think the Schuberth is also of better quality... at least it feels that way. The Caberg looks better and the slight yellow tint of the shield improves visibility a bit. The noise level is about the same for the two - wear ear plugs.

I've seen some killer deals on the Schuberth ($200 us) on the internet, but if you think you might like it, you should try one on as their sizes tend to be on the tight side.

-g

Mr Toad
12-01-05, 04:26 PM
I've got a Schuberth Concept 1

excellent lateral vision
easy to keep your specs on
good drop down sun visor
fairly good anti-fog properties - plenty of ventilation

downsides -
quite noisy, so wear earplugs if out of town
quite big/bulky
bit heavier than most, but to be honest I don't notice it
seatbelt fastener rather than D rings - hard to easily tighten it when having a blast


would I buy another - probably :D

embee
12-01-05, 05:58 PM
At the NEC show I tried on the Schuberth S1 (fixed face) and was quite interested in it, and while there I tried a Concept2 just to see what it was like (as you say the flip front is quite appealing in theory).

Didn't like the feel at all - obviously didn't get to ride in it but not for me thanks.

It did seem quite nicely made though.

SPeeeeDY
12-01-05, 06:05 PM
i have never had a flip up helmet, so i cannot comment on them, apart from saying they do look practical fot town use.
In terms of safety (never tested..touch wood) and build quality Arai wins every time for me. I have had a few helmets in the 13 years i have been riding, mainly off road helmets. But i have had atleast 5 road helmets these include AGV, Lazer and Arai.
The arai wins hands down every time. extremely comfortable and pretty light weight..not the lightest helmet on the market, but still far from the heaviest.
The ventilation if first class therefore no steaming up. and the DD chin strap has a sort of spongey cushion to stop rubbing on your neck

Arai helmets are pretty expensive, but you only get one head!!!

I dont think arai do flip-ups, so unless you dont realy want a flip up, arai is out of the question

Cloggsy
12-01-05, 06:17 PM
All flippy helmets (except one) are manufactured as open face helmets that close. The Shoei Syncrotec 2 is the only helmet designed as a full-face helmet that opens :!:

http://www.motorcycle-training.f2s.com/synchrotec.jpg

Dunno if there are any other colours available :?: :?: :?:

Steve
12-01-05, 08:19 PM
ive had the lazer flip up for a few years now and with the fighter pilot type breathing amsk that came with it it is fantastic in cold weather. also looks as cool as penguins pe-pe.

pegasus
14-01-05, 09:18 AM
i also use the caberg justissmo, and a roof boxer .
the caberg is reasonable for the price and is quite well ventilated, and has a snazzy sun visor built in
the roof is very light but poorly ventilated and not suitable for longer journeys due to the noise...

Flamin_Squirrel
14-01-05, 09:36 AM
i also use the caberg justissmo, and a roof boxer .
the caberg is reasonable for the price and is quite well ventilated, and has a snazzy sun visor built in
the roof is very light but poorly ventilated and not suitable for longer journeys due to the noise...

Caberg, well ventilated?! Try an Arai 8)

Cloggsy
14-01-05, 09:37 AM
Try and Arai 8)

£££'s :shock:

Carsick
14-01-05, 09:37 AM
I really like the look of the Justissimo, I just can't get over the fact that my lips are touching the chin guard when I put it on and if I go up a size it's a bit too big.

pegasus
14-01-05, 11:55 AM
i did say "reasonable" and "quite well ventilated" i know its not the best helmet, wish i could afford an arai....maybe i should have waited a bit longer before buying the roof....oh-well.

Aurora
14-01-05, 12:37 PM
Hubby and I both have Caberg Justissmos and thought they were great till he bought himself a Schuberth Concept 1 just before Christmas. Its really brought home all the deficiencies in the Caberg. The Schuberth is much quieter, a much better fit, much lighter, the visibility is much, much better.

I guess I'll be getting one soon, if they come in my size (XS)

Grinch
14-01-05, 12:48 PM
I love my helmet... though its a bit loud at times.

http://www.bbbikeshop.co.uk/acatalog/vr1_special_editions_silvercombat_thum.jpg

or the larger image.
http://www.bbbikeshop.co.uk/acatalog/vr1_special_editions_silvercombat.jpg