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Hi Folks,
Looking for some soft luggage for the bike and can't decide which way to go. I already have a blue Oxford humpback tailpack, and was all set to buy the matching panniers. Then I noticed the price tag!
In short I can spend £70 for Oxford humpback panniers to match my tailpack, (normally £100), or spend £70 for a full set of Oxford 1st time luggage in black!
Bearing in mind I don't fancy using a tankbag anyway, what's the better deal? Any recommendations / horror stories?
Cheers,
Phil.
Mr Toad
13-01-05, 11:58 AM
Yo
I've got the Oxford Sports panniers - 2003 model, got 'em from Infinity last summer as a special offer - £60
Looks like they're still doing the offer - see here -
http://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/product.asp?ProductID=48
There OK - pretty waterproof as standard, and come with a waterproof covering as well. Bit worried by them drooping onto the exhaust, but this hasn't happened - they seem to bottom out about an inch above. You wouldn't be able to use them with a high level exhaust mind you
I've had the bike over the ton, with the panniers fully expanded, and it was stable, so all in all I'd be happy with another pair. I think the 2004 model has a slightly different opening - flap lifts up, rather than a zip round the edge, but the old ones are fine.
Just remember to put them on the right way round, the blunt end goes at the front . . . first time I put them on to ride home from work I had them back to front :roll:
I also had the Oxford Sports panniers, and the tail pack on my SV. Did over 1700 miles on them going to the south of France and back. Been at 120 with them all fully extend and the bike seemed to handle just fine, though the wife was on the back 2, which helped plant the bike more.
Got them off ebay on the cheap if I remember correctly.. not more than 60-70 quid for the panniers about 50 quid for the tail pack. Though I can't remember for sure.
greeno76
13-01-05, 12:08 PM
I have to say that I'm slightly dissappointed with mine (Oxford Sports). The stitching has come apart at the zip - without excess force applied- and the loops for the straps have come off. I've only had them 15 months or so with very infrequent use.
I find they aren't brillantly supported and droop quite a bit. Also the velcro that goes under the pillion seat doesn't quite reach far enough to make it useful and secure.
However, they are guaranteed for life so that's a considerable consolation.
At £60 I'd say they're probably worth getting but they're not the ideal solution.
- Jason
If I were you I'd go for the humpback in blue only because they'll look so much better on your bike than the black 1st Time luggage.
You should also re-think not getting a tank bag. I resisted getting one of these until very recently and I must say it's the most practical piece of luggage I've got. I went for the magnetic Oxford Sports Expander and wouldn't be without it now. (Hope I don't sound like a bird talking about her handbag!)
Hmmm...Thanks for the replies guys. I think i'm going to be a ponce and go for the humpack panniers in blue, just cos they'll match the bike! :D
Phil.
I've got the tailpack and panniers in the sports range, So long as you put them on well they don't sag too badly, had loads of stuff in em and fairly waterproof...
had em not fly off at 130mph (on a private road) so fairly stable too :D
Ceri JC
13-01-05, 12:56 PM
I've got the firstime luggage set and I've never actually used the panniers. I've never needed to carry more than a tankbag and tailpack's worth of stuff. Tankbag is the most frequent, I can fit a pair of trainers and change of clothers in there, all you need for a weekend really :)
I had a bit of a scare using it last night, as usual, I check I could move from full lock left, to right before setting off. About 5 seconds after setting off, I couldn't turn left so had to stop. Turns out the headstock strap had got caught. Fortunately, I was still in a carp park, doing about 5 mph, so it wasn't serious.
I reckon the headstock strap does more harm than good- if the magnetic pads came unstuck and it fell off, it'd go to one side or the other and prevent you turning. Call me selfish, but I'd rather the tankbag fell off and onto the road thank do that...
Nick762
13-01-05, 01:21 PM
I picked my Sports Panniers up at Infinity last year as well. For 40 quid it seemed like a good deal but to be honest they are just too big! I have never used them and they have spent the last six months hanging from the garage roof.
I believe that Oxford actually recommend the Humpback range for smaller bikes like the SV. I've stuck with my tailpack.
...Turns out the headstock strap had got caught. Fortunately, I was still in a carp park, doing about 5 mph, so it wasn't serious....
I have the Oxford Sports Compact. That's magnetic and also uses the headstock strap. I too found the strap poor if fitted according to the advice provided. I've now fitted the strap below the two lugs that hold the tank on, but I had to cut the stitching of the strap to get the clip off in order to tread it through.
Philbo, see if you can borrow one on trial, once you get used to it they're great.
Ceri JC
13-01-05, 02:23 PM
I have the Oxford Sports Compact. That's magnetic and also uses the headstock strap. I too found the strap poor if fitted according to the advice provided. I've now fitted the strap below the two lugs that hold the tank on, but I had to cut the stitching of the strap to get the clip off in order to tread it through.
Cheers for the tip- I used to put the strap almost as long as it'd go, underneat the part on the main body of the bike that grips the front end. Took a lot longer to get in place than the "recommended" way. I reckon I'll go back to that in future.
I don't use the strap at all! :oops:
The two clips fit together to make an excellent handle when the bag's off the bike and that's about as much use as I expect them to be. :P
I've always had reservations about the strap potentially getting caught and reasoned that if the bag was going to come loose (!) then it'd no be able to fall away because of the position of my arms & body.
Ceri JC
13-01-05, 03:17 PM
I don't use the strap at all! :oops:
The two clips fit together to make an excellent handle when the bag's off the bike and that's about as much use as I expect them to be. :P
I've always had reservations about the strap potentially getting caught and reasoned that if the bag was going to come loose (!) then it'd no be able to fall away because of the position of my arms & body.
Yes- I use it as a shoulder strap too! I may well cut the headstock strap off- as you say, it's not going anywhere.
The clips on the Compact are both female, so they can't clip together. I've not found that the bag moves, so perhaps could use it without, but then I run the risk of the clips flailing about and doing damage to my tank.
The bag separates from the magnetic "saddle", it can then be used as a rucksac, leaving the saddle fixed on the bike. I've not found an effective way of locking the saddle to the bike yet, and I know that should I leave it some spotty oik will off with it.
Ceri JC
13-01-05, 05:03 PM
The bag separates from the magnetic "saddle", it can then be used as a rucksac, leaving the saddle fixed on the bike. I've not found an effective way of locking the saddle to the bike yet, and I know that should I leave it some spotty oik will off with it.
How about feeding the strap under the fuel tank (but above the frame)? It'd be a pain for a thief to get it off, without cutting the straps. I've left mine on there (just clipped on as normal) in public view for a couple of hours on a few occassionas and it has been there when I've come back, despite the pikey population :)
Besides, what use would it be to them?
If it was for out and out vanalism/kleptomania, I'd be more concerned about cut brake cables or theft of task disk...
Baldyman
13-01-05, 08:18 PM
Ceri JC..like Cronos, I gave up on the headstock strap, just in case it caused a lock up. The magnets on my Sports have had held rock solid with more than a few miles a max warp - that's 69.9mph in earth terms ;-)
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