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Can you fit ABS to an sv? Is there even such a thing?
Can you fit ABS to an sv? Is there even such a thing?
Not sure if you could fit it on an SV. I am sure there is ABS on bike's... I think BMW's, Goldwing's, have them? May I ask why you would want to fit ABS?
Mitch
silver650
09-02-05, 06:35 AM
ABS with the sports association is not a bad thing, but whether that in the near future will like that be, I do not believe! There there are andeere models with Suzuki there probably rather to is.
Clearly, it is safety-relevant, but then those is no longer inexpensive offered sports association so and cannot also to more than beginner motorcycle be sold, because stop the price rises. :wink:
Anonymous
09-02-05, 08:20 AM
Coming in on most new Hondas, and I believe planned for the SV as well. Theres some kind of non-compulsory euro bike safety agreement that some makers have signed up to which includes a committment to fit ABS on new bikes. Whether it will become law who knows.
Can you fit ABS to an sv? Is there even such a thing?
No.
Ceri JC
09-02-05, 11:35 AM
I've read that for low speeds ABS is useful, but at higher speeds (around 90mph), bikers who have mastered "threshold braking" can stop quicker without it.
northwind
09-02-05, 02:08 PM
Yup, there was a report in Bike about it recently... both of their riders stopped faster frm 50 or under, but slower above that, with SBS (IIRC) but then that was always in a planned situation, not panic braking (where, lets be honest, we're not likely to use the brakes as well as we could if we wereon a runway showing off.)
I'd love ABS for the SV, assuming it has an off-button... It helps keep you rubber side down, and could mean you stop before the front of that car instead of 10 feet after... Retrofits are perfectly feasible, but it's not been done commercially yet AFAIK. Perhaps you could fit up the system from a Hornet but I wouldn't.
Can you fit ABS to an sv? Is there even such a thing?
Not sure if you could fit it on an SV. I am sure there is ABS on bike's... I think BMW's, Goldwing's, have them? May I ask why you would want to fit ABS?
Mitch
Just thinking it would help in emergency moments, and i always seem to lock the **** end up and have never really trusted the front (going over the bars)
Carsick
09-02-05, 10:49 PM
Just thinking it would help in emergency moments, and i always seem to lock the **** end up and have never really trusted the front (going over the bars)
Going over the bars is the least of your worries.
Trust me on this, I've tried, the rear end will lift eventually, but you have to seriously push it to do that.
Basically, just use the rear when you are actually stopping, the front for the rest of the time.
northwind
09-02-05, 11:38 PM
Going over the bars isn't likely to happen... (what do they teach people on CBT these days :) )
Locking the front's another story... Especially in the wet, when emergency braking. You will stop faster on two wheels than you will on your side, and there are other advantages to that approach too!
It's easy to say "You shouldn't need it" but if someone pulls or steps out in front of me when I'm not expecting it I'll take any edge I can get... The fact is, in those situations most people just won't be able to get the most out of their brakes, so ABS will generally stop you better on such occasions. I'm quite happy to bet that 9/10 riders will stop faster in the wet on ABS than without.
Weeeelllllll i did my CBT about 7 or 8 months ago and the person that had it before me yanked to hard and went over the bars and broke there shoulder, this aint the reason why i was wondering, just thought it would be an interesting to see if it could be done.
Might ask at my local dealers (and give them a good laugh)
Did anyone else have there test done with the tester in a car and not on a bike? Was a little funnie i kept losing him when pulling away from round abouts.
Yeah, my instuctor followed me in a car on my test. It is wierd as he told me not to worry about loosing him while riding !!!
[quote="ReLoAd"]Weeeelllllll i did my CBT about 7 or 8 months ago and the person that had it before me yanked to hard and went over the bars and broke there shoulder, this aint the reason why i was wondering, just thought it would be an interesting to see if it could be done.
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Over the bars or did he just lose the front end by locking it up and going down that way. I would be very surprised if the front brake on a cg125 was powerful enough to do a full blown stoppie at playground speed :wink:
Carsick
10-02-05, 11:32 AM
Over the bars or did he just lose the front end by locking it up and going down that way. I would be very surprised if the front brake on a cg125 was powerful enough to do a full blown stoppie at playground speed :wink:
I've stoppied a cg at 30 odd mph, was interesting for sure.
I've seen scooters that seem to be light enough to flip you over the bars. Not something I've tried to do, I can't even master going round corners on a scooter.
northwind
10-02-05, 04:26 PM
On an SR125, which is one of the main CBT machines, you need to be sitting on the tank to stoppie it... Well, we had to find something to do on that long 2nd day of DAS :) I'd agree that more likely they lost the front and ended up going over the front after it hit the ground- the bike can dig in and throw you that way.
The CG's got one of the worst front brakes still out there, it was drum till a couple of years ago wasn't it? Saw a review of the "new" one saying htat the new version with the front disc isn't powerful enough to lock the front up...
Carsick
10-02-05, 04:30 PM
The CG's got one of the worst front brakes still out there, it was drum till a couple of years ago wasn't it? Saw a review of the "new" one saying htat the new version with the front disc isn't powerful enough to lock the front up...
The drum brake was bloody awful, yeah.
I haven't seen anything of the new CG, I thought they weren't being officially imported because they don't have a chance in hell of meeting the emissions standards.
Some of the Kymco variants of a CG are supposed to be pretty good, though, they have discs front and back too.
Ceri JC
10-02-05, 05:05 PM
Yeah, my instuctor followed me in a car on my test. It is wierd as he told me not to worry about loosing him while riding !!!
The ridings school said not to worry if the examiner went out in his car, "....get a few cars between you and him and you can go mental." :twisted:
Carsick
10-02-05, 05:07 PM
Yeah, my instuctor followed me in a car on my test. It is wierd as he told me not to worry about loosing him while riding !!!
The ridings school said not to worry if the examiner went out in his car, "....get a few cars between you and him and you can go mental." :twisted:
I was out in really bad conditions where the examiner was genuinely surprised that we turned up.
She followed in the car and I had a whale of a time keeping well out of her reach.
northwind
10-02-05, 05:48 PM
Mine followed in a car too... He went a bit strange and had us drive down a perfectly straight 30mph road for about 5 minutes... Did the e-stop and u-turn, then rode back down the same 30mph road for 5 minutes! I was petrified, I was sure I was missing something or we'd lost radio contact or it was really a 40 or something :)
sorry i was a little misleading there i didnt mean cbt i ment on the test, but i did go out on the 500 honda thing straight after my cbt. As for the bloke breaking his shoulder no he didnt drop the bike he went right over the bars. And i cant remeber what the bike was that i did the cbt on but it wasnt a cg125 it was sodding horrible but i dont think it was one if them.
Carsick
10-02-05, 10:29 PM
I suppose it is possible to go over the handlebars on an SV, but it's not something I'd worry about.
Usually unless you're trying to do a stoppie, the front end will break away before the back lifts too far. Whereas if you're braking with the rear that tyre will lock way easier because of the lack of weight on it.
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