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In the MotoGP paddock much talk is made of reducing the engine braking on their machines because the 4-strokes have much more engine braking then the 2-strokes they suceeded.
Any one who's ever ridden a 250cc 2-stroke care to comment on what the engine braking is like compared to a 4-stroke?
madmartyn
18-03-05, 07:22 AM
yup four strokes have more, have ridden both two strokes and four strokes of all sizes and fours deffinatly have more engine braking,
2 stroke engine braking is non-existant. I was always on the brakes on my Aprilia RS. Never use them (well in comparison) on the SV.
fizzwheel
18-03-05, 08:45 AM
I agree with Scoobs two strokes have no engine braking what so ever
I have an aprilia tuono 125 at the moment and i'm a bit worried about the difference in engine braking when moving up to my SV650s.
Cos, my last bike, albeit a good while ago, was a GP100. The engine braking on the SV will blow your mind for the first hour, find somewhere quiet to practice a much gentler right hand [ahem] and you get used to it pretty quickly.
A 2 stroke engine has much less engine braking becuase their is much less moving parts, simple as.
I enjoy the engine braking on the SV, dont have to splash out as much on brake pads, i actually got pulled once, becuase i came to a complete stop without usuing the brakes at all, the copper behind me thought my brake light was out.
I proceded to show him that infact both brakes were linked properly to the lights, and he proceded to admit his wrong doings, said he would overlook my illegal yoshi can, got into his car and drove off.
Nice fella
When I was learning I was told to always cover the brakes just enough to light up the brake light when using engine brakeing for that very reason... Rarely use my brakes, careful throttle does the job most of the time...
Ceri JC
18-03-05, 11:43 AM
When I was learning I was told to always cover the brakes just enough to light up the brake light when using engine brakeing for that very reason... Rarely use my brakes, careful throttle does the job most of the time...
Yeah, I try to give a gentle press on the rear brake before commencing engine braking just to turn the brake light on.
When I was learning I was told to always cover the brakes just enough to light up the brake light when using engine brakeing for that very reason... Rarely use my brakes, careful throttle does the job most of the time...
Yeah, I try to give a gentle press on the rear brake before commencing engine braking just to turn the brake light on.
Yep i do that now, the policeman said to me, engine braking is fine, but if people dont know you are slowing down they could hit you.
He said, in future "feather" your brakes so the light comes on, at least the people know you are slowing
mrbizzy
18-03-05, 11:47 AM
The SV was the first bike i rode other than the CB500 in my direct access and i was initially shocked by the amount of engine braking. Dont worry though, it doesnt take long to get used to it and youll soon find yourself working it into your riding style.
Now ive got the CB1300 i actually miss it. On more than one occasion ive gone into a corner too hot expecting more resitance as I change down. The back brake is no longer a mystery to me :wink:
iprideaux
22-03-05, 01:54 PM
He said, in future "feather" your brakes so the light comes on, at least the people know you are slowing
Hmm, there's a switch on the brake lever to turn on the brake lights, there's a switch on the brake pedal, it shouldn't be too difficult to add a third switch on on the carbs which turns on when the throttle's completely shut.
I shall have to investigate.
Spend some time on a search... an engine braking switch for the brake lights has been shown and discussed on here before
Chris V
22-03-05, 02:32 PM
You think the SV650 has engine breaking, you should try a big Harley
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You think the SV650 has engine breaking, you should try a big Harley
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You mean Harleys need to tell people they are going slow :)
RenamedMonkey
22-03-05, 03:43 PM
Cos, my last bike, albeit a good while ago, was a GP100. The engine braking on the SV will blow your mind for the first hour, find somewhere quiet to practice a much gentler right hand [ahem] and you get used to it pretty quickly.
Yes, the SV's engine breaking can be quite alarming after riding a two-stroke, it might even throw you over the front if your not prepared! :lol:
Still, have fun ay :wink:
:lol:
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A Hornet rider writes... engine braking??? Wossat?
hall13uk
23-03-05, 12:12 AM
thats why i love the sv so engine braking bliss ahah :love:
Both my bikes are V-Twins, and yes both definitely have engine braking. I notice the engine braking on the lighter SV650 more than the heavier VS1400 Intruder. Probably do to riding position ergonomics and weight transfer to the wrist. Also I'm always playing with the gearbox to keep the RPM's in the SV engine's sweet spot.
The VS1400 engine has gobs of torque so its not really necessary to play with the gearbox as much. Just my thoughts on the subject of engine braking.
Cheers, Richard
Anonymous
27-03-05, 11:27 PM
How is the Intruder? The Mrs loves cruisers and I am looking to surprise her with one when she has got enough experience on a 125 CC bike and passed the full test.
Engine braking depends on how much vacuum you are pulling thru your throttle plate,
How is the Intruder? The Mrs loves cruisers and I am looking to surprise her with one when she has got enough experience on a 125 CC bike and passed the full test.
The VS800 Intruder now called the S50 Boulevard is a very nice machine. Do to its lower seat height and overall less weight of the bike. It has a 27.6" inch seat height and is 443 lbs. dry weight. Its a popular bike with the lady riders. The VS1400 Intruder now called the S83 Boulevard is some what larger overall. It has a 29.1" inch seat height and weighs in at 535 lbs. dry. It can be a bit intimidating for newer riders. Both the above bikes are narrow/skinny in appearance and have the chopperish look with a longer rake and trail than other cruiser bikes. I would recommend the wife riding the VS800/S50 before any purchase though. So that would rule out any surprises you might have had. Feel free to (PM) me if you have any other question about the Intruder/Boulevard line.
Cheers, Richard
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