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basically, as a few of my nuts and bolts in various places have a bit of rust forming, im looking to replace them.
ive had a look on ebay for bolt kits, and i gotta say, im not gonna pay about 15 quid just for 6 sprocket bolts.
am i safe to pop into somewhere like homebase and use any nuts ?
or have they gotta specially be motorcycle ones?
id quite like some gold nuts and bolts for the brake calipars :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25632&item=7962882766
just seen this set. any experience with these ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25632&item=7961691173
78 smackers just for disc bolts :shock:
Carsick
20-03-05, 10:57 PM
I've not seen what you get in those tubs, but most people seem to think pro-bolt are fine.
I'm quite tempted by a black tub of bolts, I have to say.
21QUEST
21-03-05, 12:24 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25632&item=7961691173
78 smackers just for disc bolts :shock:
If you do the maths , it works out at £4.00 a bolt so it's not exactly dear. Wonder what Honda San would ask for disc bolts?
Cheers
Ben
21QUEST
21-03-05, 12:33 AM
basically, as a few of my nuts and bolts in various places have a bit of rust forming, im looking to replace them.
ive had a look on ebay for bolt kits, and i gotta say, im not gonna pay about 15 quid just for 6 sprocket bolts.
am i safe to pop into somewhere like homebase and use any nuts ?
or have they gotta specially be motorcycle ones?
id quite like some gold nuts and bolts for the brake calipars :)
Again , £15 for six sprockets nuts is £2.50 each(probably cheaper than OE). Don't think home base will have gold nuts and bolts for your brake calipers :lol:
Cheers
Ben
jakeblues68
21-03-05, 12:38 AM
try the fastener places advertised in the bike rags, they have been around for ages and you cant beat the prices.
It pains me to pay for such items as being in the trade i know how much nuts and bolts really cost, however saying that, the coloured fasteners are quite expensive to manufacture. They are also trendy so get yer wallets out fellas.
JB68
i remember seeing a black SV650s at vineys brighton rideout.
everybolt was purple . . . do the maths . . . . the bolts prob cost the same price as the bike itself
looked amazing tho.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25632&item=7961691173
78 smackers just for disc bolts :shock:
If you do the maths , it works out at £4.00 a bolt so it's not exactly dear. Wonder what Honda San would ask for disc bolts?
Cheers
Ben
they probably cost a couple of pence to produce,
21QUEST
21-03-05, 02:25 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25632&item=7961691173
78 smackers just for disc bolts :shock:
If you do the maths , it works out at £4.00 a bolt so it's not exactly dear. Wonder what Honda San would ask for disc bolts?
Cheers
Ben
they probably cost a couple of pence to produce,
Could be the case but the point is , compared to what Honda would want for their rusting cheesy one four pounds each per titanium bolts ain't exactly dear. If you have no luck finding some at the price you are happy with , you are welcome to send me a PM with exactly what you need and I'll see if I can help out.
NB:For the record I will not be making any money from the bolts (not this time anyway) :wink: .
Cheers
Ben
northwind
21-03-05, 03:08 AM
Anything non-standard costs... That's why disc bolts are so pricey, they've got that "sleeve"...
There's no reason you couldn't just find the spec of the "plain" bolts and washers, and go to a hardware supplier but you might run into minimum quantities and orders doing things that way. Don't go to Homebase or similiar, I've never seen them sell anything other than really crappy zinc coated steel- useless on a bike.
I think I paid £12 for each set of 5 stainless disc bolts I picked up the other week (should have bought 15,for some reason I only got 10 :( ) Plus I think the natural ti sprocket nuts were £15 for 6 (with a spare!). I'm feeling very guilty about the titanium rear axle nut :oops: But I did need a new one...
The Pro-bolts anodised kits are actually not too pricey for what you get... I put a tank, fairing and screen kit on mine, and I think it came out under £30 all-in at the time (could be wrong) plus they threw in a small workshop kit which came in pretty handy, went over other bits like the mudguard and fairing screws and changed most of them too. Considering they're all sized for you, that's not bad- not cheap either mind. But you need to watch the engine bolts, they're not very strong. Torque with care!
Surprised nobody's mentioned Chewy's stainless kits... Those represent excellent value I think, and save you a whole lot of hassle. I should have a spare engine bolt set somewhere...
timwilky
21-03-05, 09:24 AM
id quite like some gold nuts and bolts for the brake calipars :)
There are no nuts on the calipers. The rear is a split system with two bolts holding it together. Or are you talking about the mounting bolts.
If so please be careful in your bolt choice as the front is not a standard M10 with a 1.5mm pitch, but the Jap version with a 1.25mm pitch instead
i remember seeing a black SV650s at vineys brighton rideout.
everybolt was purple . . . do the maths . . . . the bolts prob cost the same price as the bike itself
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That would've been Leigh's bike - and he'd be upset at your comment above - they're actually blue! :lol:
Especially as they cost him so much... I think the whole kit was something like £150 :shock: But as far as I know, it's all the bolts.
i remember seeing a black SV650s at vineys brighton rideout.
everybolt was purple . . . do the maths . . . . the bolts prob cost the same price as the bike itself
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That would've been Leigh's bike - and he'd be upset at your comment above - they're actually blue! :lol:
Especially as they cost him so much... I think the whole kit was something like £150 :shock: But as far as I know, it's all the bolts.
it looked amazing - if i had the money, id buy his bike.
id quite like some gold nuts and bolts for the brake calipars :)
There are no nuts on the calipers. The rear is a split system with two bolts holding it together. Or are you talking about the mounting bolts.
If so please be careful in your bolt choice as the front is not a standard M10 with a 1.5mm pitch, but the Jap version with a 1.25mm pitch instead
yeah, thats what im talking about.
northwind
21-03-05, 03:32 PM
Especially as they cost him so much... I think the whole kit was something like £150 :shock: But as far as I know, it's all the bolts.
Did he get the axles, engine bolts etc changed or coated? If so, I'd be well interested in hearing what he did...
just another quick question,
having bought some colour matched spay paint for my bike (im gonna spray the hugger)
would it be ok to spray paint nuts ?
i know im gonna have to clean the thread afterwards tho.
madmartyn
21-03-05, 07:24 PM
i,ll say this only once :lol: i work for a fastener company we stock stainless, zinc and clear, zinc and yellow (goldy colour) self colour standard pitch 1.25 pitch 1.5 pitch h/t bolts h/t sets socket caps socket buttons socket sets old bsw, bsf, unc for those with harleys, washers, spring washers shake proof washers, getting board now and i have a selection at home to personal use officer. and if we aint got it we can get it made but that costs,
Going back to the original question, that £72 for TITANIUM, not stainless or something else. Not only are you buying a materail as hard as steel,if not harder, but you will be getting something thats weighs considerably less than steel as well. The end result will be to decrease you're unsprung weight
northwind
21-03-05, 08:14 PM
Going back to the original question, that £72 for TITANIUM, not stainless or something else. Not only are you buying a materail as hard as steel,if not harder, but you will be getting something thats weighs considerably less than steel as well. The end result will be to decrease you're unsprung weight
True... But do you think you'll feel any difference for your £40? Considering that the front wheel alone weights nearly 6 kilos, plus the tyre, discs, compressed air, calipers, fork lowers and unsprung internals, you're probably saving something like a percent of a percent of the total unsprung weight at the front.
Could't agree more.
You would have to go the whole hog of replacing the discs, new wheel etc for any benefit, but at least they wouln't rust :D
northwind
22-03-05, 01:52 AM
:) For a moment there I thought we were about to get into a ridiculous weight reduction scrap :)
At the bike show, I spoke to a guy who was putting titanium disc bolts and sprocket nuts on his Bandit 600 to save weight... Then he mentioned that it was still on the stock sprocket, ie the massive steel ones that weigh a ton :roll: I reckon he could change absolutely every unsprung bolt, even the axles, and probably still save less weight than you can do by fitting a lighter sprocket....
Those pro bolt tubs are ally. Considering that we always get told to change to steel is it wise to change all bolts with these?
Cloggsy
22-03-05, 11:18 PM
Speak to Chewy22 ;)
northwind
23-03-05, 09:09 PM
The Probolts ally ones are fine for the applications they're designed for- all non-stress applications though. Even then, the engine casing ones are probably marginal- they will take the recommended torque settings, but then again, they can shear when you do so. Mine are all about 10nm below the Haynes settings, which works fine without breaking any more :oops:
But don't go attaching your brake calipers or engine with 'em :)
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