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hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:05 PM
I was doing burn outs on my drive and everything was going to plan. however now my front brake no longer holds, also the clutch lever now has to be almost fully let out before it even bites. waht have i done to my beloved sv650s k4? :cry: :cry: :cry: :help: i have booked it in at my local dealer but i hope to fix it my self before it goes in hope it does not cost a lot.
Cloggsy
22-03-05, 05:07 PM
I was doing burn outs on my drive
Why :?:
You've proabably shagged your clutch :roll:
no sympathy sorry, sounds like a knackered clutch or adjustment
Spiderman
22-03-05, 05:14 PM
Oh dear :(
Look at it this way mate, you learnt 2 things today.
1/ how to do a burnout
2/ the things that can go wrong if you do
Bad luck mate.
And on your drive????? Bet your neighbours love you :shock:
You silly sod.
Bring it to selkent/soho i'll take a look, your clutch proberly just needs adjusting.
Your front brake nolonger holds? When your doing burnouts or at all?
If its when your trying to do burnouts, you might have the revs too high to start with ;)
Dan
hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:15 PM
i just wanted to try it (couristry killed the hall) so how much does a shagged clutch cost? #-o
Cloggsy
22-03-05, 05:16 PM
so how much does a shagged clutch cost? #-o
Nothing, they come for free - However, a new one will cost you an arm & a leg :roll:
Infact, what am i saying do it ya self...
Under the clutch leaver rubber bit, spin the lock nut, and scre the other bit in. (If you cant to it, then yell!)
Dan
Cloggsy
22-03-05, 05:18 PM
Under the clutch leaver rubber bit, spin the lock nut, and scre the other bit in. (If you cant to it, then yell!)
It'll probably need more adjustment than that, top-end is for fine adjustment, he may need the bottom of the clutch cable adjusting before the top...
hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:20 PM
Oh dear :(
Look at it this way mate, you learnt 2 things today.
1/ how to do a burnout
2/ the things that can go wrong if you do
Bad luck mate.
And on your drive????? Bet your neighbours love you :shock: most of my neighbours are ex bikers they were opeming their windows to let the burning rubber in gotta love those oap's :shock: there always asking me about my bike.
It's probably nothing more than adjustment as Dan has said, which is unlikely to be fixed from just the thumbwheel at the lever. It'll need the front sprocket cover removing and then resetting from there. As the SV's clutch is pretty strong it's unlikely to be shagged. Replacing the clutch plates is about £40 in parts and not a big job to do (apparently).
As for the front brake that's a mystery, seems as though you've not got hydraulic pressure, so maybe you've sprung a small leak and air has got in to the system, or the temperature of the fluid from constant work has gone past it's normal operating level and is now shagged.
Doubtless the wisdom of Sid Squid, Rictus, Embee etc will offer a more accurate appraisal.
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hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:27 PM
arghhhhhh i cant f$%^ing do it it does not seem to be making any difference
hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:30 PM
hey thanks to everone dont stop with the advice it's a great help. by the way the front brake works ok in normal use just wont hold the bike whilst doing the burn out at revs above about 3.5/4
Sorry... :laughat: :lol:
We did warn you!
Are you sure that you're turning the adjustment the right way? You should be screwing it in to the lever to bring the biting point closer to the bar. However, nearly fully let out is about where it should be before things bite - makes for neat gear changes see!
Spiderman
22-03-05, 05:35 PM
hey thanks to everone dont stop with the advice it's a great help. by the way the front brake works ok in normal use just wont hold the bike whilst doing the burn out at revs above about 3.5/4
That what mine was doing in Brighton. I was gonna give them a damn good clean and change the pads if needed. But it rained pretty much all day here so maybe a job for tomorrow afternoon.
I got an interview in the morning so i really dont wanna mess with the bike and be late for that.
hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:48 PM
bloody hell still can't do it i am just poking around aimlessly don't know what i am doing. clueless i am seen women with better knowledge of bike :lol: :lol:
Muttley
22-03-05, 05:48 PM
Someone else that lives in Eltham :D
This reply hasn't been much help. :)
Hi hall 13uk
You've just reminded me why I always buy new!!!
hall13uk
22-03-05, 05:56 PM
Hi hall 13uk
You've just reminded me why I always buy new!!! hey what do you mean
Carsick
22-03-05, 05:57 PM
Hi hall 13uk
You've just reminded me why I always buy new!!! hey what do you mean
He means that people do things to bikes that he would prefer they didn't do to a bike he was going to buy.
hall13uk
22-03-05, 06:05 PM
Hi hall 13uk
You've just reminded me why I always buy new!!! hey what do you mean
He means that people do things to bikes that he would prefer they didn't do to a bike he was going to buy. oh i see well thats why i buy new too. i just had to find out what it was like to do a burn out i feels great at the time. not sure about the aftermarth. i wont be doing it again but i had to know what it felt like.
Carsick
22-03-05, 06:08 PM
'shrugs'
Nothing to do with me, it's your bike.
Red ones
22-03-05, 06:14 PM
If you are adjusting your clutch cable start at the clutch end and check whether you have the correct angle (about 85 degrees) between the arm and the cable, then work your way back towards the lever.
Hall, as johnboy said, it may need adjustment under the sprocket cover. If you dont want to touch it (its faily easy but you can hash it up), bring it to selkent tommorow, or soho friday
Oh and remeber to back it out on the lever if your doing it under the sprocket cover.
Ever read hitchhikers guide? Rule number 1. DONT PANIC.
Dan
hall13uk
22-03-05, 06:22 PM
If you are adjusting your clutch cable start at the clutch end and check whether you have the correct angle (about 85 degrees) between the arm and the cable, then work your way back towards the lever.
thanks for the advice i think it will have to go back to my dealer thou i can see the £££ signs in his eye's already :( :(
Red ones
22-03-05, 06:27 PM
thanks for the advice i think it will have to go back to my dealer thou i can see the £££ signs in his eye's already :( :(
Don't bother the dealer - he'll charge a silly sum for a job I'm sure someone can do for you in 5 minutes (and you'll learn how to do it for them too)
I'd take the offer of a SELKent or Soho meet!
There's no need really. You have people on here offering to help, why pay the dealer a vast sum for nothing?
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Spiderman
22-03-05, 06:47 PM
Can you get it inot gear and change gear when you ride?
if so do what the guys above are saying. Let someone who knows do it and show you how. Nothing like being able to add a number 3 to the list of thing you learnt today.
3 - being how to fix what you buggered up.
believe me, if you plan to ride a bike for a long time its best to learn these little things as you go along and not relly on the dealer to extarct the urine...and your cash... out of you all the time.
Your bike, your choice ;)
hall13uk
22-03-05, 06:59 PM
ok friday it is then i am counting on you guys to gide me through. cant bear the thought of paying more money out. will ride it as little as possible until then
hall13uk
23-03-05, 02:36 PM
It's not rideable! the bike wont go above 35 mph and no matter what gear it's in it still over revs at about 3500 :shock: :shock: what the hell have i done!! could it be the clutch plates if so what do i do??? :help:
Carsick
23-03-05, 02:40 PM
It really does sound like you've worn them a bit and it just needs adjusting.
hall13uk
23-03-05, 02:44 PM
well i will find out today when the guys from my dealship call me with the damage. had to take it too them need it fixed for work on friday.
Well I hope they're honest as a slipping clutch could easily be disguised as a knackered one. You've obviously worn it a little and adjustment from the cable at the front sprocket should be all it needs.
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you know im only in peckham
hall13uk
23-03-05, 07:54 PM
i need help please the guy's at the work shop say its very likely that they will not even be able to look at it untll tuesday f&^king hell now i wont be able to go to the bsb and after i booked in advance as well s$%t.
hall13uk
23-03-05, 07:59 PM
i dont know how to adjust the clutch either. so i am at the mercy of the garage bo$%ocks
Bring it along to Soho on Friday and we'll try and sort it out for you.
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hall13uk
23-03-05, 08:09 PM
Bring it along to Soho on Friday and we'll try and sort it out for you.
. its not rideable !!!!! can't get above 30-35 mph & it's really hard to change gear!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: looks like i have had it no bsb for me
So what's wrong with 30mph? It'll get you to Soho.
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hall13uk
23-03-05, 08:28 PM
So what's wrong with 30mph? It'll get you to Soho.
. rather not feels very dangerous just wish the garage would pull there finger out :(
madmartyn
23-03-05, 08:49 PM
So what's wrong with 30mph? It'll get you to Soho.
. rather not feels very dangerous just wish the garage would pull there finger out :(
wheres ya spirit of adventure? i once had to ride one of my bikes ten miles home with no clutch cable as it snapped loads of fun as it was rush hour and i had to ride through town lots traffic lights stall it put it in neutral wait for lights revs up bang it in gear and of we go, so i,m sure ya can ride yours at 30mph (aint that most of the speed limits anyway) :D
hall13uk
23-03-05, 08:50 PM
So what's wrong with 30mph? It'll get you to Soho.
. rather not feels very dangerous just wish the garage would pull there finger out :(
wheres ya spirit of adventure? i once had to ride one of my bikes ten miles home with no clutch cable as it snapped loads of fun as it was rush hour and i had to ride through town lots traffic lights stall it put it in neutral wait for lights revs up bang it in gear and of we go, so i,m sure ya can ride yours at 30mph (aint that most of the speed limits anyway) :D thanks but i just could not do it.
Burnouts shouldn't feck up the clutch that much, I did it to my old Dunlop 220 and needed no adjustment afterwards.
It really sounds like you've burnt the clutch out. Once you've got the wheel spinning you need to let the clutch out completely rather than half-clutching it, which I guess is, and was, your problem.
I've never had to change a bike clutch before.
As for the brake that's an odd one. Fluid leakage should be obvious. Maybe's you've burnt through the pads as well!
Peter Henry
23-03-05, 10:41 PM
Got to echo Andrew I am afraid.It sounds like you have been screwing the nuts off the bike whilst slipping the clutch. You also must have been doing this for some time for such a difference to be noticeable.
I hate to be a pooper, but apart from just totally sh+gging the last bit of rubber on a tyre before replacing...I have never seen the point of this little trick. :?
If you feel the need to spin it up (the hooligan in everyone does :twisted: ), put weight over the front, dip the clutch, whilst grabbing the brake to further unload weight off the back tyre, DUMP the clutch with it low-mid revs, then modulate your throttle and brake together to wheel effortlessly along with the rear spinning + smoking somewhat.
It's not healthy for the bike as it does strain all sorts of things, but unless you do it all the time, it shouldnt do any real harm (apart from the obvious destruction of the rear tyre!). Slipping the clutch whilst trying to do a burnout is one of the worst things to do to a bike clutch, and its a poor method to do burnies anyway.
Like everyone says, adjust it first before deciding its fooooked. If you can't do it, then trust some of your local lads. If its buggered then they won't bugger it any more will they? Chances are they will sort it out, and you will be able to get to brands.
Dan
Hall - Im only in bromley, I could pop down this afternoon/evening or tommorow to take a look, it is really only a 2min job...
Dan
hall13uk
24-03-05, 10:33 AM
YES PLEASE this evening would be great if you can fix it theres a free ticket to brands on monday in it for you honest (got one going spare a close friend can't go he's wife is ill) what time can you make around 7pm would be good for me, can't any earlier it's my brother's birthday!!! he's 8yrs old today.
hall13uk
24-03-05, 10:39 AM
the bike is actally in the workshop as i type but they dont know if they will get around to it today!! the guy says even if i did come and get it where would i get a clutch before monday anyway. he thinks the plates have gone.
panic! panic! panic!
PM me your mobile, and ill come down.
Dan
I know that Rictus fits a set of clutch plates in less than 30 mins (which includes two fag breaks :lol: ). If the bike is leant over far enough you won't even have to drain the oil apparently.
You'll also likely need a gasket.
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ooh eck! I cant do clutch plates!
Well never tried, so dont want to on someone else' bike!
Dan
hall13uk
24-03-05, 12:56 PM
no problem sudoxe will have to try and find another means of travel for mondday.
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