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Itching 2 go
09-04-05, 02:42 PM
should admin ban people foa a couple of days if they upset people persistantle?

fizzwheel
09-04-05, 02:45 PM
I think that is up to the admin team

It depends on the circumstances and what the upset is related to

I am sure that they have banned people before, to be quite honest I think it would depend on what has been said

If I put a post up that I think people might find offensive I tend to put a little notice on it saying that it might be offensive and if people find it offensive to let me know and I will remove it or that the admin guys can

How come you put this thread up has somebody / something annoyed you ?

Itching 2 go
09-04-05, 02:54 PM
I think that is up to the admin team

It depends on the circumstances and what the upset is related to

I am sure that they have banned people before, to be quite honest I think it would depend on what has been said

If I put a post up that I think people might find offensive I tend to put a little notice on it saying that it might be offensive and if people find it offensive to let me know and I will remove it or that the admin guys can

How come you put this thread up has somebody / something annoyed you ?yes but as an onlooker. you have probably noticed there are a couple of users on here at the mo that seem to be causing a little trouble. I just feel that they need to be reined in a bit. a temporary ban might just be the answer

fizzwheel
09-04-05, 02:58 PM
I hadnt noticed to be honest, but then I tend to keep my drivel to the mega thread :wink:

Maybe you should mention it to admin so they can have a quiet word with the people that you feel are causing a little trouble ?

Kate
09-04-05, 02:59 PM
How come you put this thread up has somebody / something annoyed you ?

I think its more a case of when a specific person upsets/annoys a large number of other forum members.

Is there a warning system on this forum? On another forum, we have a warning system where you get 3 warnings and then you are banned. Though we do have temporary bannings as well as permanent ones.

In one instance we had someone who managed to pretty much p1ss off all the moderators and we were also being PMed by forum members complaining about him. He wasn't doing anything specific, just posting irritating drivel, insulting people and giving out incorrect advice. He had been warned a few times in the past so we temporarily banned him for a few days. It worked - he calmed down.

fizzwheel
09-04-05, 03:06 PM
No there is no system, I dont think there has been a requirement for one in the past, the majority of members on here are friendly and we have a bit of banter but its doenst go beyond that.

jonboy
09-04-05, 03:10 PM
It's very simple and I know to what you're referring, it's already being discussed on the Moderators' forum.

However, as far as is possible, we try to let the forum be self-regulating, so that if someone is out of order then they get told by other forum users preferably by PM.

If there comes a point where they are persistently aggravating people and take no heed of politely and diplomatically worded PM's from Admins then they will ultimately be banned. This would be a very sad state of affairs and to date, I personally have only had to ban one user. Hopefully it will stay that way.

And although well intentioned no doubt, polls like this don't really help matters ;).


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Kate
09-04-05, 03:10 PM
I have to say, I find this forum really friendly and relaxed, nevermind helpful! It seems a pity there are several members that appear to feel the need to take it past the banter stage.

jonboy
09-04-05, 03:16 PM
It seems a pity there are several members that appear to feel the need to take it past the banter stage.

I think that we're probably a victim of our own success and that there will always be a very small percentage that do this and the more members we have then the more this will happen - but hopefully only occasionally.

Compared to most other forums we really do rather well.


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fizzwheel
09-04-05, 03:23 PM
I like it on here, its much better than the other forum I go on

jonboy
09-04-05, 03:28 PM
Well of course it is. :lol:


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fizzwheel
09-04-05, 03:33 PM
Well of course it is. :lol:


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Iansv
09-04-05, 03:39 PM
dum dum di dum.... :D

Agree with Jonboy... Pm's are the initial warnings... and yes only one person has pushed it far enough to get banned, hopefully no-one else will

Scoobs
09-04-05, 03:41 PM
I think it's rubbish. Don't know why I come here. Maybe I should be banned!

Only joking :oops:

Cronos
09-04-05, 05:14 PM
Maybe I should be banned!

Seconded!!! Burn the heritic!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Scoobs
09-04-05, 05:21 PM
Seconded!!! Burn the heritic!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers Buddy :cry: :roll: :lol:

keithd
09-04-05, 06:38 PM
burned at the stake and marmalised

unless its me, then just ban me :oops:

Admin2
09-04-05, 06:41 PM
Now just want to make you aware of the fact that there's a very worthwhile point of view from someone who was typing away in one of the threads that got locked and didn't make it in time. K PM'd me to ask me insert it back in but as that would have come across as unfair to some peeps, I though here might do just as well.

It's worth reading, thanks K for taking the trouble.


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Hiya, I was posting this on Hall's 'Abuse is OK thread'. In fact I was thinking about it so long, and going over it so much, that in between me starting to type and then hitting the send button - you locked the thread.

I'm not fussed, and won't start yet another one, but if you think it has any value and could be 'inserted' into the thread, here's what I was going to put:



I've sat here infront of my screen (avoiding doing the hoovering) thinking hard about whether to post anything about all of this ('all' being only what I have read in public threads and not in any PMs).

I've wondered if it would inflame matters, upset people, waste bandwidth or most importantly actually be constructive in any way.

Well, I'm typing now so I may as well say my bit, which by the way, sides with no-one, is not intended as an attack on anyone, is trying not to preach and is generally kind of being whispered from the back.

I don't actually know Lyn personally, nor do I profess to know anymore of what is going on in her life than she has posted here. That said, I am familiar with the state of mind she is currently in.

It is very hard, when suffering from depression to react to anything in a moderate manner. You highs are shortlived and sporadic, your lows are in the abyss. It colours everything you see, hear, do and say - not to the good in many ways.

Most importantly it colours your perceptions and denies you reason and choice.

You can't tell someone suffering from depression to cheer up and expect a truely positive response. They want to, they tell themselves to, but achieving it is a physical impossibility. The brain's chemistry is wrong so it just can't be done. That's the problem with depression, it's far more than just feeling crappy.

This altered state holds true for 'reading something the wrong way'. It can be something that is not even intended for them or about them, but their own dark outlook of themselves will take it to heart and it will hurt.

Self-reason, or the reason of others will have little effect. Comments that they would have previously thought of as companionable jokes, or would have been water off a ducks back become personal, hurtful and supporting of a depressive state of mind.

Generally the reactions are either a withdrawn low point, rightous anger or a painful mix of the two.

If you've read this far you have my gratitude.

If you can perhaps bring yourself to think that the manner in which this is being dealt with by the Admin team has less to do with simply 'liking' Lyn, and more in part to do with tolerance for her state of mind at the moment, then you will have my respect too. For what it's worth.



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fizzwheel
09-04-05, 06:49 PM
That is a good post thanks for putting it up

Cloggsy
09-04-05, 06:59 PM
Its up to Admin IMHO :!:

Anonymous
09-04-05, 07:05 PM
Thanks for posting that 'lost post', Admin2. A very eloquent and thoughtful post, well done to the author.

=D>

Iansv
09-04-05, 08:09 PM
Thanks for posting that 'lost post', Admin2. A very eloquent and thoughtful post, well done to the author.

=D>


ditto, As someone who has experience with depression thats a good post to read.

Well done K and thanks for posting Mr Admin2 Sir

TSM
09-04-05, 08:09 PM
It is a good post, but there is more than just the last few posts that have annoyed both parties. I dont want to stir the pot, but there is 'more to the storey' on his reasons for what he posted in 'annoyed' thread.

I have already PMd Admin2 and understand his reasons, and hope that i is not a one sided debate.

Warren
10-04-05, 12:39 AM
urr, i havent a clue what is being referred to in this post,

but its up to the admin surely.

personally i think they do a great job already.

keithd
10-04-05, 07:29 AM
urr, i havent a clue what is being referred to in this post,

but its up to the admin surely.

personally i think they do a great job already.

im with you bikage! aint gotta clue what they're reffering to

keithd
10-04-05, 07:43 AM
ignore that! detective work done

Tara
10-04-05, 10:45 AM
urr, i havent a clue what is being referred to in this post,

but its up to the admin surely.

personally i think they do a great job already.

I agree, its up to the admin

Warren
10-04-05, 10:54 AM
yup, had my sleuth hat on.

now i understand . . . . and i want nothing to do with it.

Tara
10-04-05, 10:56 AM
yup, had my sleuth hat on.

now i understand . . . . and i want nothing to do with it.

staying well out of that one