Personal details form debate (among other things)

[Jabba]

I suggest that we all print out the “form” below, complete it, put it in the map pouch of your tank bag (or somewhere equally obvious).

In that case, mine will be down the front of my Y-fronts.

Sorry for the derail :roll:

[Carsick]

I suggest that we all print out the “form” below, complete it, put it in the map pouch of your tank bag (or somewhere equally obvious).

In that case, mine will be down the front of my Y-fronts.

Sorry for the derail :roll:
Are you suggesting you want us fumbling about in your y-fronts if you have an off?

[Baldyman]

I suggest that we all print out the “form” below, complete it, put it in the map pouch of your tank bag (or somewhere equally obvious).

In that case, mine will be down the front of my Y-fronts.

Sorry for the derail :roll:
Are you suggesting you want us fumbling about in your y-fronts if you have an off?

...............and you had better write on liquid proof paper :sick:

Sorry :oops: , but a sensible idea Mogs =D> =D> =D>

[Mogs]

Baldyman.

I don’t have ideas, I don’t think I’ve ever had a true original, but I know a good one when I hear it, (it’s Tee-Jeys :thumbsup: .). The only bit that’s mine is asking people to fill out the form and carry it. I thought that asking for everyone’s personal details was a step too far and a little School Teacher(ish).

[RenamedMonkey]

Very good idea Mogs.

[fizzwheel]

There has been some discussion regarding the safety element of this ride, specifically what we know about each other in the unlikely event of an accident.

A ride-out conducted by another forum was unfortunate enough to be involved in an incident, which resulted in a rider being hospitalised. The sad part of the story is that the other riders only new his forum name, this made it difficult for them to arrange to notify a home contact and for the recovery of his machine etc.

Now this may sound like tempting fate, however, I am a believer in that if there is a plan for the worse, the worse won’t occur.

I suggest that we all print out the “form” below, complete it, put it in the map pouch of your tank bag (or somewhere equally obvious).

************************************************** *******


Full Name: ________________________________________

Home Address: ____________________________________

_________________________________________________

_________________________________________________


Home Contact Name:_______________________________

Tel Nos: _________________________________________

Medical Conditions (eg. No penicillin):
________________________________________________

________________________________________________


Bike Reg No/Model: ________________________________

Recovery Company: ________________________________

Tel No: ___________________________________________


************************************************** *

I think this is a good idea. I had another thought

My Dad is VMCC member and when they go on a run like this they all have to sign on when the arrive at the start point, at the bottom of the sign on sheet is a legal disclaimer that they sign agreeing that they dont hold the person that is organising the run in away reponsibile for anything that happens to either themselves or the bike during the run. Previously they have had situation in the club where somebodies bike got damaged in an accident and he tried to sue the person that had organised the run for the damage caused to the bike it all got very nasty and expensive.

Now I am not for one minute implying that anybody on here would do such a nasty thing like that, but I dont know you and you dont know me

Just a thought..

[RenamedMonkey]

I think this is a good idea. I had another thought

My Dad is VMCC member and when they go on a run like this they all have to sign on when the arrive at the start point, at the bottom of the sign on sheet is a legal disclaimer that they sign agreeing that they dont hold the person that is organising the run in away reponsibile for anything that happens to either themselves or the bike during the run. Previously they have had situation in the club where somebodies bike got damaged in an accident and he tried to sue the person that had organised the run for the damage caused to the bike it all got very nasty and expensive.

Now I am not for one minute implying that anybody on here would do such a nasty thing like that, but I dont know you and you dont know me

Just a thought..

We (the mods) were discussing just this the other day, unfortuantely it can be the insurance companies that will try to follow it up in a way such as this, none of us will have much say in the matter.

Anything you do organise, you need to ensure it does not include details of this forum. We do not want to get the owner and administrators of this website involved with any legal disclaimers that are not run past them, so it is easier just to leave them out of it.


My only thought on people signing a legal disclaimer, is that you have started the ball rolling by doing so: Making it clear that this is an organised rideout. It would be better if we could keep it to 'a bunch of friends meeting up for a ride'.

[fizzwheel]

It would be better if we could keep it to 'a bunch of friends meeting up for a ride'.

Thats the way I think it should be to, It was just a thought

If that is the case and we are going to print off the form thing and carry it with us, should we not remove the SV650.org forum logo from it ?

[Anonymous]

I think we should just abide by the disclaimers which are posted on the site and leave it at that. As Rupes says as soon as things start getting written down it gives anyone outside something to get their teeth into. And its starts a ball rolling and we will end up in a situation like they have on the GS sites. And thats sites with a plural which seems to be in part due to this...

We are just using this site as a group of mates to arrange to meet. Just like mates, someone will suggest whether to go, we agree and go that way. Theres no 'risk asssessment' etc and all that, no ones taking any responsibility, we are riding the same route on a map at our own risk., albeit in a group.

I for one want to keep it that way. my motives in this were just to make sure ths site wasnt held responsible, nothing more.

FWIW the one case I heard about on the GS site was unsuccessful in any case. Aparranetly the guy had to spend hard earned to defend it...but I dont know the ins and outs.

Just MO, good input all round tho chaps.

[Anonymous]

It would be better if we could keep it to 'a bunch of friends meeting up for a ride'.

Thats the way I think it should be to, It was just a thought

If that is the case and we are going to print off the form thing and carry it with us, should we not remove the SV650.org forum logo from it ?

Thats probably not a bad idea. One never knows......

Im thinking of having a little laminated card amde. There was a guy launching a scheme on the web a while back for the same idea. he called it a NOK card. Btw (and this is a bit of a sideline but Rupes can tidy up here again :lol: ) I had some insurance with a firm called Dogtag and you got juts that with your policy number on it and a phone number and they held next of kin details. A good idea (but unfortuantely they dropped the m/c accident cover).

[Mogs]

It's a bl**dy minefield. I've removed to logo. I only put it on so that its easier to find. (Fizz can you remove it from your quotation or maybe you could, Monkey.)

Just to make it clear. I am not organising this event. I am not taking responsibility for the safety of others.

I don't fancy standing up in front of "Judge Judy".

[RenamedMonkey]

It would be better if we could keep it to 'a bunch of friends meeting up for a ride'.

Thats the way I think it should be to, It was just a thought

If that is the case and we are going to print off the form thing and carry it with us, should we not remove the SV650.org forum logo from it ?

Thats probably not a bad idea. One never knows......


Indeed, I have already asked John if he minded the logo being used, but I think it's better we take it off just to be sure. You can make your own logo if you like :wink:

[RenamedMonkey]

It's a bl**dy minefield.

Isn't it just. Sad whole life has come to this.

Just to make it clear. I am not organising this event. I am not taking responsibility for the safety of others.

I don't fancy standing up in front of "Judge Judy".

:lol: Very wise.

[fizzwheel]

It is a sad state of affairs I agree, I was just looking out for ourselves and the forum in general

I am happy with the way things are, its one of the things I like about this site is that we can have adult conversations about this kind of thing

Mogs - looks like monkey beat me to it

( queue the misquotes )

[Professor]

Im thinking of having a little laminated card amde. There was a guy launching a scheme on the web a while back for the same idea. he called it a NOK card. Btw (and this is a bit of a sideline but Rupes can tidy up here again :lol: ) I had some insurance with a firm called Dogtag and you got juts that with your policy number on it and a phone number and they held next of kin details. A good idea (but unfortuantely they dropped the m/c accident cover).

An even better idea would be a tatoo. My neighbour, a born again
biker, has recently made a tatoo (wolf, beautifully drawn) and is
persuading me to do the same. I wasn't sure which design to go for,
but now I know: name, address, phone number, etc ... But what if I
move?

Seriously, I read somewhere about a family in the USA that have some
very severe hereditary disease. All family members had microchips
inserted (like the ones dogs can have) the idea being that
paramedics would scan them and know immediately their medical
history.

Moderator, please feel free to move this post to the rubbishy
subthread.

[RenamedMonkey]

Prof, you worry me sometimes! :lol:

Do it 8) would your wife mind do you think?

[Ceri JC]

I think the forms are a good idea, got mine printed out. I've removed the logo though for the reasons given.

[Professor]

Prof, you worry me sometimes! :lol:

Do it 8) would your wife mind do you think?

After 26 years of marriage she doesn't mind anything ...

[RenamedMonkey]

:lol: fantastic :lol:

[Mogs]

The subject of responsibility and the blame culture this country is getting into has cleary been considered a lot before on this website.

See here (http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=21105)

In order to make new friends in any situation there is always an element of risk and trust.

Most of the people on here, I would consider to be my friend even though I havn't met the overwhelming majority face to face and probably never will.

The point of the NOK card is still valid. I'm wondering whether we should broaden this debate across the whole forum especially with the annual ride-out fast approaching.

If we do widen this perhaps someone with more graphical skill that I could redesign it, my effort is pitiful.

I'll leave it to you Moderators as I think John T will have a view on this.

[The Mass]

Just another thought folks,

Do we have a Medic on hand for this "Gathering"?

I know we have Flying Nurse, I am a registered First Aider.
Just a thought, I may be taking it too far, fair enough if I am.

But will print out and laminate the card thingy, superb idea! :thumbsup:

[RenamedMonkey]

Mods and Admin's are discussing this behind the scenes in regards to the whole forum and the annual rideout, so lets leave this here for now.


First Aiders on rideouts are a big bonus, but not something we should be requiring; as again, we would be falling into an organised group rideout category.

[Jabba]

Just to make it clear. I am not organising this event. I am not taking responsibility for the safety of others.

And if we get lost its our fault :wink:

See you all on Saturday folks.................. :thumbsup:

[The Mass]

I'm taking no responsibility for everyone turning up at my house for a cuppa ?

You're all welcome if you want to stop off before heading back on the M4

[Mogs]

I'm taking no responsibility for everyone turning up at my house for a cuppa ?

You're all welcome if you want to stop off before heading back on the M4

Chris. Do we have to bring our own mugs?

PS Are you going on the IAM do next Wednesday.

[Professor]

The subject of responsibility and the blame culture this country is getting into has cleary been considered a lot before on this website.


Yeah, just recall how my post was censored when I complained about
Ci****ry Le****rs not delivering my boots.

I was also thinking of tattooing on the SV650.org logo but now have to put
this plan on hold in fear of a High Court injunction.

[The Mass]

I'm taking no responsibility for everyone turning up at my house for a cuppa ?

You're all welcome if you want to stop off before heading back on the M4

Chris. Do we have to bring our own mugs?

PS Are you going on the IAM do next Wednesday.

:lol:

Nah mate, should be enough to go round.

Ooooh I forgot abotu the IAM...bugga! Is it an all day event thing, that I'll have to take the day off for ? If so, it'll be a no-goer,
I've already pushed the boat out already this week with Holidays, I'm off tomorrow n Friday..a compramise (sp)for Saturday.. :roll:

[The Mass]

Plus the fact I need 2 days to clean the Blue Cow.. :lol:
She looks like she has been in a cow field..poor girl :(

Really peeved I forgot abotu the IAM...bugga!..I wanted to go ont hat with you lads as well...bugga!!!!
I'll see if I can sort summat out :wink:

[Jabba]

Mass,

The IAM is an evening jobbie :thumbsup:

[Baldyman]

It's a bl**dy minefield. I've removed to logo. I only put it on so that its easier to find. (Fizz can you remove it from your quotation or maybe you could, Monkey.)

Just to make it clear. I am not organising this event. I am not taking responsibility for the safety of others.

I don't fancy standing up in front of "Judge Judy".

Mogs,
Don't worry mate, its the world gone mad :(
All I did was copy the very useful text, pasted, added my details and printed it off to put in my tank bag.
In my little uncomplicated and trusting (perhaps unwisely) world, the thought of holding you or anyone else responsible for my decision to ride my bike in Wales, never entered my head.
Please feel free to print this statement off and I'll sign it on Sat :) :wink:


......................................
L.C. Dawkins

PS I'll sue anyone who asks what the "C" stands for :lol: :lol: :lol:

[The Mass]

Mass,

The IAM is an evening jobbie :thumbsup:

Superb!

I had a PM from Mogs. Let me sort summat out so I can get home early enough on Wednesday, alos need to sort it with Mrs Mass.

Nice 1 Cheers lads

See you satdee.. I now need to catch up on the original thread to get the times we are meeting. :roll: