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Bud

22-04-05, 05:28 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4473001.stm

My opinion is that if gays want to marry then fine but I disagree with them being able to adopt. Opinions? (The poll refers to gays adopting children).

Iansv

22-04-05, 05:35 PM

option 3....

Biker Biggles

22-04-05, 05:36 PM

I say when in Spain do what the Spaniards do.When in Rome do what the Pope says.Otherwise refere to Monty Python rule one.....NO POOFTERS.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :shock: :shock: :shock: :) :) :) :oops: :oops: :oops:

Anonymous

22-04-05, 05:37 PM

dont have a problem with them marrying or adopting kids. there are a lot of bad parents out there and provided the kid is loved and cared for - who cares how they have sex :?

SPUD

22-04-05, 06:09 PM

O NO !!!!!
if they want kids then then do it right.....find a woman and have sex !!!!!
as nature intended
i don't have a problem with gays (if i can say that)but if your leg is broken , you can't walk.don't kids need both parents

KrZ

22-04-05, 06:15 PM

well, i don't have problem with gay marriage, but i just can't figure out why, i guess adopting children has something to do with it. otherwise they can just live together for as long as they want anyway why bother with the paperwork.

shutdown

22-04-05, 06:32 PM

not a chance in hell!

the poor kid would get such a bullying at school that he/she would end up killing themselves

blacksheep

22-04-05, 07:36 PM

Shoot the ffffff, fffffff, ffffffffffff, flippin lot!!! :D

SPUD

22-04-05, 08:53 PM

not a chance in hell!

the poor kid would get such a bullying at school that he/she would end up killing themselves

do we want it all :evil:

i'm with you shutdown,at what point is enough ,enough.

pgc50

22-04-05, 09:12 PM

As my wife says, they should have the right to the same tax penalties as other married couples do.

I agree with it from the standpoint of the rights of survivorship and care. Unless you are married your domestic partner (same sex or not) does not get the same rights as a married couple. You can leave a will, but that can be overturned.

northwind

24-04-05, 12:12 AM

I think a gay couple could give a kid as good an upbringing as anybody, and there's a shortage of good families to adopt as it is, so from that point of view I'd be all in favour... But unfortunately it's not just about the couple and the kid, like Shutdown says the kids are going to get absolute pelters at school for being different. So sadly I'd have to agree, human nature being what it is.

Captain Nemo

25-04-05, 02:24 PM

glad to see we live in such enlightened times.

each to his/her own i say.

as long as i dont have to watch or read about it all the bloody time.... :twisted:

Carsick

25-04-05, 02:41 PM

I'm very much live and let live. I can't see how being brought up by a gay couple could be any more damaging to a child than alot of the messed up situations that children live in, these days.
Maybe if more children became accustomed to alternative "life choices" then we might actually gain a more tolerant society.

Then we can get on with the much more interesting arguments over what colour is fastest.

GSXR Carlos

25-04-05, 02:44 PM

not sure, haven't voted, i think northwind hits the nail on the head thought

GSXR Carlos

25-04-05, 02:46 PM

Then we can get on with the much more interesting arguments over what colour is fastest.

There's no arguement, it's

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BLUE

Grinch

25-04-05, 02:52 PM

Just show how narrow minded the world still is, and in my opinion how religion is the route of all evil. I can see a lot more hate crimes now due to the popes daft opinion which will affect my friends and family.
When you consider the amount of child deaths due to so called 'normal' families I can't see them being worse parents.
Have you see those NSPCC adverts.

Flamin_Squirrel

25-04-05, 02:58 PM

I do think that the most stable environment for children to be brought up is in that of a married hetrosexual couples care. This isn't because of any prejudice, but because I think it's important for kids to have the balance of both a male and female influence while growing up.

I also think that to allowing gays to marry would do nothing to increase the value of marrage for hetrosexuals.

Having said that, gays should certainly be allowed the same tax breaks (or not as the case maybe, nice one Blair) as married couples, and I think civil partnerships would be the best way to acheive this.

Flamin_Squirrel

25-04-05, 03:02 PM

...Have you see those NSPCC adverts.

I found those latest NSPCC adverts about 'hit means lose it' amongst the most vile, offensive peices of inaccurate propoganda I've ever seen.

Nick762

25-04-05, 09:56 PM

Maybe if more children became accustomed to alternative "life choices" then we might actually gain a more tolerant society.

I'm not sure "life choice" is the right term. I certainly didn't make a conscious choice to be straight, it's what I am for whatever hormonal/chemical/genetic reason. I don't believe that anyone chooses a gay lifestyle either, it's simply what you are and depending on what circles you move in, you have varying degrees of freedom to express it. Unfortunately tolerance is not something we tend to be born with but have to learn (and some people never do.)

Carsick

25-04-05, 10:03 PM

Maybe if more children became accustomed to alternative "life choices" then we might actually gain a more tolerant society.

I'm not sure "life choice" is the right term.
I was using the term ironically. I also don't consider it to be a choice.

I also think that to allowing gays to marry would do nothing to increase the value of marrage for hetrosexuals.
but in what way would it decrease the value for straight people? You imply that just because there's no benefit for the part of the society unaffected by the change then it's pointless.

Nick762

26-04-05, 11:54 AM

Rob S (Yella)

26-04-05, 01:28 PM

It's a tough one,

If I was given the choice of my parents being kind, caring, attentive but gay. (male or femail) or being bought up by a hetrosexual but uncaring Trisha guest type Chav parents then I recon I would get a better upbringing with the stable gay parents. So when I say NO it's nothing to with a gay couples ability or attitude as parents but overal I have to say no as it's a physical imposibility for them to have kids then adoption should be a NO and reserved for special circumstances only.

But then again theres a lot of kids out there in homes/hostels that need parents.

It's a tough one

MavUK

26-04-05, 02:03 PM

I had a normal family upbringing and still got bullied all the time at school... I say why not, as long as the home is lovign and supportive of the kid I don't have a problem with it.

I was suprised by some of the force of other posts though... wow, strong feelings some have...

As for getting married? I don't see why it makes any less special that I married my wife, than our friends (both men) who got married. It's the woman I love that counted for me.

Then again I'm not religous so that may have something to do with it...

AlanSv

26-04-05, 02:11 PM

so you'd rather children were left in an orthanage, and never feel wanted and loved by parents?

I say it doesnt matter what your sexual preference is, or even if your part of a couple or not, one or two loving parents is better than none.

BURNER

26-04-05, 03:15 PM

I know a girl who has a bisexual mother and a gay father. She's a bright popular kid at her school, very articulate and openly proud of both her parents.
True, they're her biological parents but they live apart and her father has a 16 year relationship with his boyfriend.

I don't have a problem with gay marriage or gay adoption. Long as the same checks are carried out as with any hetero couple I can't see why anybody could object.

Rob S (Yella)

26-04-05, 04:42 PM