How much for my bike? & What to buy next?

[Philbo]

Hi Folks,
Thinking about selling my SV & buying something new along the "sports/tourer" line.

So, how much do think I can expect to get back on my unfaired K3? How much difference between selling private and a trade in?

8k miles on the clock.
Datatool system 3 alarm.
Road legal CCC exhaust.
Colour coded bellypan, hugger, and radiator cowls.
FSH.

So what next?

Honda VFR 800...( Would need to be second hand to afford this).
Kawasaki ZZR600...(some good deals on this bike. Brand new, 5k OTR).
Suzuki GSX750F...(Cheap as chips, but a not heard much about this bike).

Any thoughts? Is it worth paying the extra insurance and going for the second hand Honda, or would any of the bikes be fine for an amateur like me!

Thoughts and opinions much appreciated!
Phil.

[philc2000]

go for the vfr, they've a very good reputation, even saw one on a track day last year - they ain't slow.

[Clunk]

Don't know about values for your bike, but I wouldn't bother with any of those you've suggested.

Go for a Fazer 1000. Brand new about £5800 - £6000, or a decent used one from £4000.

Its top of my next bike list.

[Carsick]

I don't know about the others, but don't get the GSXF, after the SV you'll be disappointed with it in almost everyway.

[K]

Between the Kwakka and the Honda, for me it'd pretty much be down to the engine. Do you want to go for an IL or stick with a V?

Are you thinking of changing because you want to put more miles on with a bit of touring - in which case comfort is a biggy. Test ride both on the road - then take a pillion slowly round a car park. Gives you a fair idea of what it could be like one up but fully loaded.

Personally I'd go for the VFR. But that's mainly for the reason that if I was do a bit of long-distance riding I'd prefer the flexibility and braking of a V engine - less work, and your brake pads last longer! :wink:

[wheelnut]

I would be put off the Fazer thou, the stories I have read about depreciation frighten me :?

Save up, cut the kids pocket money down and forget the wifes next birthday, then go and buy a Triumph Sprint ST :P

And to help you with the deposit I will buy your CCC can if it will fit a k2

[northwind]

The Fazer thou's only depreciated so badly because the new cost's been slashed- shouldn't be such a problem now as the price is already rock bottom- doubt it'll go any further.

(basically, new bikes were cut so much that they were cheaper than a used bike would be if it had gone along typical depreciation lines)

So if you're buying now you actually get the advantage of the bargain basement pricing, rather than having to worry about depreciation.

I want one :) But I can't have one, can I? No.

[BURNER]

I'd rather buy a thundercat than a ZZR600, but gotta agree with the fzer thou idea. RiDE voted it top bike and it scores very highly in all the tests and reader polls.
The GSXF750 is pretty dull but a good work horse. Finish is if anything worse than a SV.
The VFR800 is a H*nda, it'll do what you need but I prefered the 750 version without the linked brakes. ABS is btter than linked IMHO.

[Mariner]

If you like a twin, then get an Aprilia Falco! Had mine 6 weeks now after 4 years on an SV. It's a natural progression, rode a CBR600RR (gave me a sore bum after only 15 miles) :shock: , rode a VFR800 (comfy, fast but so boring) :? , tried the SV1000 (lots of power but...........) :( and then tried a Falco, loads of character, loads of power and loads of fun trying to keep the front wheel on the deck. :lol:
As for the value of your bike, prepare to be disappointed. The value of SV's have plummeted, my SK3 similar spec but fully faired was valued at only £2400 :twisted: part-ex against a year old CBR600RR. I eventually sold private at £3100.

[Philbo]

I've heard good things about the Fazer, i've tried to talk myself in to looking more closely at them, but I just don't like the look of bike at all. ( No offense to any Fazer owners out there!)

K,
I'm looking for something that can rack up the miles in relative comfort, and would prefer a full fairing after 2 years on a naked!

What about a SV1000....don't know why I didn't consider this before. Guess i'm in the right place to ask about it though!! Seen Cupar are selling them with lower fairings for £5.5k.

Any more thoughts?

Phil.

[Philbo]

If you like a twin, then get an Aprilia Falco! Had mine 6 weeks now after 4 years on an SV. It's a natural progression, rode a CBR600RR (gave me a sore bum after only 15 miles) :shock: , rode a VFR800 (comfy, fast but so boring) :? , tried the SV1000 (lots of power but...........) :( and then tried a Falco, loads of character, loads of power and loads of fun trying to keep the front wheel on the deck. :lol:
As for the value of your bike, prepare to be disappointed. The value of SV's have plummeted, my SK3 similar spec but fully faired was valued at only £2400 :twisted: part-ex against a year old CBR600RR. I eventually sold private at £3100.

A falco eh? Will need to look in to them... What's the insurance like?

What was the story with the SV1000? Not a big enough difference to the SV650?

[Steve W]

Recently sold my bog standard SV 650 K3, 5500 miles, not kept as clean as it should have been(!) in part-ex for a CB 1300; it was valued at £2750.

Did think of a new SV1000 K4 on offer at £4299 - personally not a great fan of fairings - but in the end thought I'd try an IL4, and went for the CB cos I wanted better build quality than the GSX1400 which otherwise I think is a more interesting/better looking bike.

The write ups I've seen give SV1000S lots of praise and it's excellent value for money burt suspect build quality ain't great.

Good luck whatver you choose.

[Cloggsy]

Recently sold my bog standard SV 650 K3, 5500 miles, not kept as clean as it should have been(!) in part-ex for a CB 1300; it was valued at £2750.

Did think of a new SV1000 K4 on offer at £4299 - personally not a great fan of fairings - but in the end thought I'd try an IL4, and went for the CB cos I wanted better build quality than the GSX1400 which otherwise I think is a more interesting/better looking bike.

The write ups I've seen give SV1000S lots of praise and it's excellent value for money burt suspect build quality ain't great.

Good luck whatver you choose.

You could've gone for an SV1000N (nekkid) :?: :-k

[Jelster]

SV1000 is like the 650 with extra go, but it is taller and not as "flickable". Tried the VFR, very very good bike and it;s not boring if you push it, quite good fun in fact...

The Faser is an excellent buy and is an awsome bike. Lots of power, lots of torque and good brakes. It's probably the most comfortable of the bunch. The Falco is a great sports tourer but a badly set up one doesn't like corners. Very comfortable and if you treat it with respect, easy to ride. I'd sugest going down a tooth on the front sprocket which makes it more managible in the traffic. Big twins are notorious for being thirsty, just 100 miles to tank is not uncommon. The Faser will be a better all rounder, and try and find a poor test report, you won't.....

You need to take a couple of them for a test and make up your own mind...

.

[Peter Henry]

Philbo...Your getting some valuable input from some of the guys here but the first thing that I would offer would be to really consider how much a)Sport type riding and b)How much touring you are likely to do?

The reason I mention this is if the ratio is say more towards weekend hoons in the hills and perhaps a bit of commuting with the occasional longer trip thrown in then a more tour oriented bike might not be the way to go?

Most mid size bikes from 600cc up these days offer a pretty good compromise.After all a load of the fellas popped over to France last year on SV's and with Steve on his Gixxer 600, all had a fun time,( I believe they had to keep waiting for the Speed Triple that was with them! :lol: )

I recently blasted down from Valencia on my 749 with a rucksack on my back,(dont start humming "The Happy Wanderer!) and all in all it was more than acceptable for the trip...however not what you would normally consider a touring bike though! :? 8)

So in summary asses your proposed use and then compile short list,this should then be followed up by reading as many reviews and test reports as possible.Keep us all posted when the decision is made. :wink:

[Mariner]

A falco eh? Will need to look in to them... What's the insurance like?

What was the story with the SV1000? Not a big enough difference to the SV650?

The SV1000 just didn't do it for me, lots of speed but I wanted a change. Riding the SV1000 was just like a faster version of the 650.

The insurance on a Falco was £350 TPFT compared to £260 TPFT on the SV650s, 38yro, 2 yrs n/c, 9 points and a recent theft and accident. Got quotes from £1300 to £350, Carole Nash gave the best deal.

There are plenty of deals on new Falcos, £5299 from KJM Superbike, £5700 from Rocket Motorcycle Centre, £5499 from On Yer Bike. The problem is they will only offer "bottom book price" for your SV.

[Jabba]

Go for a Fazer 1000. Brand new about £5800 - £6000, or a decent used one from £4000.

100% with ya, bruv. Fast, comfortable for hours on end, surprisingly good on fuel (55-60mpg on the motorway), great brakes and cheap to service. Bags of torque make for a relaxing ride, but it really shifts when you want it too. Insurance is OK compared to similar bikes, too.

Its top of my next bike list.

Ditto.

Just hope that the new one (rumoured next year) doesn't come with an inferior engine (like the 600 did) and doesn't cost the earth like the current one did when introduced.

Mind you, if it looks anything like the new 600 I'll be going for an old one anyway :lol:

[Anonymous]

8000 miles you poof. what have you been doing since our last ride out which was a year ago? is it 8000 dry miles except t hat run to moffat lol

get out and test ride loads of bikes phil. try perth they have cupars sister shop an d wiers both ok at giving out bikes then you can maybe come out and play with us again, we will be gentle :lol:

[mysteryjimbo]

I'd go for the Fazer thou once i'd reduced the size of my avatar.......... :lol:

[Clunk]

8000 miles you poof. what have you been doing since our last ride out which was a year ago? is it 8000 dry miles except t hat run to moffat lol


8000 dry miles in Scotland ? Impossible.

:lol:

[Anonymous]

well you do have a point :lol:

[Mythkind]

What about the Sprint ST? You know you want it...

After all, its only money and you can't take it with you (and if you get one can I have a go? :D )

MK

[blacksheep]

If you want a sports tourer you're not going to better a Sprint ST.
Sports bike...........GSXR
Hooligan bike..........the new Speed triple

God I wish I was rich!!

[spudnuts]

Sprint ST, now your talking definataly, maybe my next bike
http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/main_SPRINTST_02.jpg
DROOLS :winner:

spudnuts.

[spudnuts]

Gorgeous in silver.

http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/G_ST_2.JPG

Mmmmmmmmm. she will be mine.

spudnuts.