Rideout policy/strategy

[admin]

Just been talking to Daryl after his run out on the Thundercat rideout.

They used the marker system for managing the riders. Similar to the Box Hill run we did a couple of years ago.

It basically boils down to this.

1)Leader alway leads and wears a bib.
2)Tail man also wears a bib and stays on the tail.
3) At a junction, second man waits indicating the direction of travel until all other riders have passed except tail man. Tail man lets second man pull away and stays at the back (or lets the second man catch him up and over take).
4) Second man now takes station in front of tail man.
5) 3&4 keep repeating until destination is reached.

Daryl states that no one got lost in 200 miles of riding.

Sound like a good scheme to me. As long as the lead man knows where he is going and everyone else sticks to the discipline above then we should be okay.

What do you guys think?

John

[Anonymous]

I'll tell you what I think.......

we wont get Jelster wearing a yellow bib

.....thats what I think :wink:


Apart from that it works a treat.

[Jelster]

But I'll be on my Gixer, so I'll be in front anyway :lol:

And I'll have you know that I do possess such a thing, haven't worn it for a while though.....

.

[Stig]

Was discussing this yesterday with Sid Squid. I think it's an idea that will work but only so long as the guys that are dropping off as markers to show the way, wait until the rear bib man is in view. It would only take one marker to get bored of waiting and leave too early for it all to fall apart.

I have already volunteered my services as rear man, I don't think I ride fast enough to be a leader.

[Stig]

You know, sometimes I really wish I would read the whole of someones thread before posting a reply. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Quiff Wichard]

sounds cool

I have 2 brand new bibs high vis that can be lent for the occassion- there are gonna be 2 or 3 groups though are there not? (is there not)

[Cronos]

I have already volunteered my services as rear man.

That really is just too much information! :shock:

[Anonymous]

But I'll be on my Gixer, so I'll be in front anyway :lol:

And I'll have you know that I do possess such a thing, haven't worn it for a while though.....

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Now you need that 'sexy' hi vis orange thingy I posted a while back that got such a good response (not). Would go with the bike then... :wink:

[darylB]

On the thundercat ride there were 62 bikes, the group tended to split up automatically as people found riders of their own pace and followed them, the front riders were doing 70 to 80 , the next group 60 to 70, with the more sedate riders following, the wait for the back marker was never more than 5 mins or so. It was stressed at the start that with so many bikes that it was a social event and not a race to see who could get from point to point the quickest. the day was fun and nobody felt that they had to ride faster than they were happy with. nobody got left , lost, and all have said how enjoyable it was. If every body follows the procedure i,m sure our rideout will be just as enjoyable and as much fun as the cat ride.

Daryl.

[mysteryjimbo]

But I'll be on my Gixer, so I'll be in front anyway :lol:

And I'll have you know that I do possess such a thing, haven't worn it for a while though.....

.

Me too!! A 1997 one though.

On the thundercat ride there were 62 bikes, the group tended to split up automatically as people found riders of their own pace and followed them, the front riders were doing 70 to 80 , the next group 60 to 70, with the more sedate riders following, the wait for the back marker was never more than 5 mins or so. It was stressed at the start that with so many bikes that it was a social event and not a race to see who could get from point to point the quickest. the day was fun and nobody felt that they had to ride faster than they were happy with. nobody got left , lost, and all have said how enjoyable it was. If every
body follows the procedure i,m sure our rideout will be just as enjoyable and as much fun as the cat ride.

Daryl.

I was at Welshpool II!

[Jelster]

It's a great idea, BUT.....

1) People tend not to drop off off if they can get away with it

2) If the group is big it will split, and we'll end up having to have a number of "back markers"....

3) Those that start at the front in a group with their mates generally tend to want to stay together so what will often hapen is that when somebody drops off, they only tend to wait until they see the next bike and then they head off again.

I have had the all of above experiences on group riding events.... I just don't think everyone will be disciplined enough for it to work as it should. Sorry if that offends anybody, but it's just my opinion.

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[Viney]

Now this is great! I think i have said this more than once on this site, and no one has ever stuck to it. It always is left to the smae handful of people to do.

It is a fantastic system when it works and worth putting the effort in as it does save the lost souls.

So listen up you lot at the back, read what it says up there ^^^^and do as your told

:shock: :D :lol:

[Stig]

I think it has to be worth a go. Surely in the interests of all. People will follow the rules. After all, with so many riders, the pace is hardly likely to be that fast anyway.

[hall13uk]

this system does work. i was the tail man in a rideout a few months or so back, it worked cos everybody obeyed the rules.
i was asked to be tail man cos i was riding with more experinced riders on the faster bikes so of course it made sense
*not to do with the speed of my bike more my experince*
(mv, sv thou, gixxer, r1, boxxer etc..)
they are me mates from around near me all about 30-45 i get on really well with them. we understood that plently room should be given to each rider, we rode stagered left to right leaving plently of room, no problems we rode to birmmingham & back from se london it was great :D.
only down side they made me wear a flou bib :( :lol: i wrote funny stuff on it thou :twisted: .

if i can get a babysitter at a decent rate :lol: (not much chance) i will come along but i wont know till about turs/fri so it will be close

i will be very happy to be tail man again as i know what i am doing now but as i said wont know to late. if i dont see u all have a great time & stay safe

ALSO DON'T FORGET A FIRST AID KIT. ITS THE TAIL MAN THAT CARRIES IT :wink: WELL THAT WHAT MY MATES TOLD ME :? :roll:

quick edit} mobile phone with other riders numbers on it & credit on it might be somehing to consider aswell in case of the unthinkable *touches wood* not a nice thought but best to cover all angles :thumbsup:
hth

[Cronos]

mobile phone with other riders numbers on it & credit on it might be somehing to consider aswell in case of the unthinkable *touches wood* not a nice thought but best to cover all angles :thumbsup:

Don't want to be morbid, but it's not a bad idea to share emergency contact / next of kin details. :|

[Anonymous]

been on quite a few rideouts with iam and we use back marker and drop of system sometimes. it works really well with large groups. worth noting that slower riders should try to stay closer to the front as those further back have to ride harder to keep up.

last years run had no such preparations as far as i was aware and seemed to go ok.

photocopies of the route and meeting points (pubs) so that if anyone does get mislaid they can ride on to the meeting point

saying that ill be pillion this time so ill just sit still and say nothing :lol: