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OK, looking for a new helmet this Friday and have a quick Q...
Does anyone know if there is any safety diff between
Shoie (sp?)
Soumy (sp?)
Arai
Shark
I've had a shark for 5 years and it's fine apart from wind noise... But then I've never had to use it in anger either (fingers crossed I won't with the next either). I just wondered if there is any saftey diff, or if price / looks are the only diff between them.
Stu
valleyboy
24-05-05, 10:59 AM
I think main difference is fitting.
I know for a fact that only Arai fit my head properly.. everything else was to tight in one place, too loose in another...
They are all modern helmets, so should be up to scratch.
Balky001
24-05-05, 11:09 AM
My Arai is very comfortable and the lining is the best quality. That said, it was my first lid and now I think I'd go for a Shoei only because they fit my head better and are tighter in certain places. But their interior isn't as nice as Arai IMO. Vents work well though and Shoei do pinlock as standard on their better lids.
Itching 2 go
24-05-05, 11:10 AM
OK, looking for a new helmet this Friday and have a quick Q...
Does anyone know if there is any safety diff between
Shoie (sp?)
Soumy (sp?)
Arai
Shark
I've had a shark for 5 years and it's fine apart from wind noise... But then I've never had to use it in anger either (fingers crossed I won't with the next either). I just wondered if there is any saftey diff, or if price / looks are the only diff between them.
Stutechnically, no they have all passed the same test to be issued their safty certificate. I would suggest to you tho that after having lengthly discussions on this matter with a number of sales reps and seen how the helmet manufacturers (sp) test their helmets in house before they go for the official safty test, that Arai and Shoei put more effort into making sure you are wearing a helmet that is as good as you can get.
I have seen how most or these helmets are packaged too and the sort of **** the boxes are put through and would strongly recomend to you that what ever helmet you get you check the box for any obvious signs of abuse. where I used to work helmets were a regular feature at the bike shows and got thrown around all over the place. boxes ended up mangled, i can only imaging the dammage caused beneath the outer shell on the helmet. I once saw a helmet come into us from a supplier that looked like the box was dropped from about 15-20feet and landed right in the centre of the top of the box. I took the lid out and there was some lovely circular impact impressions all around that area.
hth
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
Do thay have any on-line links to this - can't get it AFAIK in Holland.
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
Do thay have any on-line links to this - can't get it AFAIK in Holland.
Dunno about links, but I was reading the article last night. The winning lid was the £205 Shoei Raid II.
The ratings were made based upon an impact test, spike test, strap strength/elasticity test and an overall rider assessment of comfort, ease of use, etc. Shark helmets did OK, especially the S500 which seems very decent for the price.
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
Do thay have any on-line links to this - can't get it AFAIK in Holland.
Dunno about links, but I was reading the article last night. The winning lid was the £205 Shoei Raid II.
The ratings were made based upon an impact test, spike test, strap strength/elasticity test and an overall rider assessment of comfort, ease of use, etc. Shark helmets did OK, especially the S500 which seems very decent for the price.
Thanks. I guess then the answer is either a Shoei Raid II or another Shark then depending on confort etc.
Thanks people
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
Do thay have any on-line links to this - can't get it AFAIK in Holland.
I'll bring it to work tomorrow and scan it . PM me your e-mail adresss.
The winning lid was the £205 Shoei Raid II.
Joint first with the HJC AC-11, which did sell for £200, but is on offer at HG and Infinity stores for £100. If they took that into account it probably would have won outright.
The winning lid was the £205 Shoei Raid II.
Joint first with the HJC AC-11, which did sell for £200, but is on offer at HG and Infinity stores for £100. If they took that into account it probably would have won outright.
Aye - good point :thumbsup:
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
Including a penetration test - no longer included in the EU Standard.
Do thay have any on-line links to this - can't get it AFAIK in Holland.
I'll bring it to work tomorrow and scan it . PM me your e-mail adresss.
Done, thanks
Rockin' Rob
24-05-05, 04:20 PM
The winning lid was the £205 Shoei Raid II.
Joint first with the HJC AC-11, which did sell for £200, but is on offer at HG and Infinity stores for £100. If they took that into account it probably would have won outright.
ive just bought one of those HJCs for a ton, seems like real good value :D
RoB
Cloggsy
24-05-05, 04:31 PM
I think last month, RiDE did a test on lots of different lids.
I have a copy of this if you want me to scan it & send it to you :wink:
fizzwheel
24-05-05, 04:50 PM
I dont think there is much difference in protection, whoever you will find that they all vary in comfort and wind noise.
You shoudl get the lid that fits your head shape best
HTH
northwind
24-05-05, 09:40 PM
That's a great price for those HJCs... But like's been said, the best helmet is the one that fits. You'd be better with a £40 Arashi than a £300 Arai if the Arai spins on your head :)
I would say, I hate the Arai venting system... The Condor I bought is a really nice lid, very comfy, and it's lasting well too. But the vents are rotten- very fiddly to operate (the brow vents are a joke, i can't work them at all with gloves on) and the anti-fog visor-crack thing is such a pain to disengage (it basically locks the visor at about 1-2mm open, but I find it very hard to unlock with gloves on, so if I start to steam up like that it's bad news. Only the top and mouth vents are easily usable on teh move and they're not very effective.
The HJC ZF8 I owned before was pretty nasty, but it had far, far betetr vents, and because the visor was notched you easily could set it at whatever level you wanted- instead of being stuck with one hard to use setting.
hall13uk
24-05-05, 10:59 PM
i love my new arai rx7 haga rep
Fits going to be the deciding factor - I was just wondering if it's worth spending heaps of cash instead ofjust a lot of cash :)
Thanks for the info so far peopel. What ever I fond (hopefully Friday) I'll let you know what I think of it :)
Stu
A .pdf of the RiDE Article is winging its way to you across the ether.
Cheers Mogs, just got it.
A little reading for htis evening - although from the quick glance it look slike the raid II is going to be my preference (Assuming that it fits my head ok...)
Thans again all for the info. Much appriciated - feel like I'm buying this helmet armed with much more info than the previous one...
tigersaw
26-05-05, 01:09 PM
I bought a raid II befoe that article came out - so I was unbiased - but having tried most helmets on in the store it was the one I felt most comfortable with. Several weeks later I'm still very happy with it.
I've got an HJC FG-14. Seriously good value for money at £150. Also, HJC have a deeper chin bar than most others and the little elastic skirt thingy under the front.
OK after a bit of searching on the net got my shopping list...
Helmets
Shoie Raid 2
Shoie XR1000
HJC AC-11
(I'll try other s as well, but these are the ones I want to find...)
Gloves:
Dianesse Guanto Speed Knuckles
Dianesse Guanto Speed Metal
AplineStars GP-Plus
I know finding glies is going to be an issue as I need XS and almost nobody stocks them :(
Again if I see others i like I'll try them, but these are the ones I am looking for.
I'll let you know what I find...
hall13uk
26-05-05, 03:15 PM
glove wise- alpine gp pros are good i have a pair only one down side u will before cleaning them with leather cleaner & its costly that stuff
kwak zzr
26-05-05, 04:52 PM
i got one of those hjc's after reading ride mag, can't go wrong for £100 it has the best lining and fit for any lid around £100 mark,just depends on how much you want to spend?
daz
glove wise- alpine gp pros are good i have a pair only one down side u will before cleaning them with leather cleaner & its costly that stuff
And they mean that some people cannot move their little finger properly due to the fact that your last 2 fingers are tied together... my little finger needs to click when i wear them... but i can't move it enough to get it to click....
They look the Doggz Dangly's though....
Well got the Raid II and wore it for the first time today.
Wow, what a difference between my old Shark and this. It's that comfortable / light you don't know you have it on after a few mins.
Only one gripe so far and that's wind noise. I was hoping it was going to be quieter than my shark. It's about the same on the motorway- akthough around town I can hear far more background noise - heared cars quite easily, which I couldn't do in the shark.
Picking up the Guanto Speed Metal glove hopefully this week - the shop had to call around to find some in my size as I have little hands :oops: makes buying glives a nightmare...
Picking up the Guanto Speed Metal glove hopefully this week - the shop had to call around to find some in my size as I have little hands :oops: makes buying glives a nightmare...
I bet you struggle to find Gloves too!! :wink:
Picking up the Guanto Speed Metal glove hopefully this week - the shop had to call around to find some in my size as I have little hands :oops: makes buying glives a nightmare...
I bet you struggle to find Gloves too!! :wink:
:oops: Did I mention I can't spell... :D
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