View Full Version : what is "de-restricted"?
Sorry I am new here and I guess I don't know the lingo.
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Carsick
24-05-05, 05:21 PM
Some people have restricted licenses and are only allowed to ride bikes with up to 33bhp. De-restricted just means when they take that restriction off of the bike.
Itching 2 go
24-05-05, 05:21 PM
well it depends on what has been restricted, normally we are talking about power, there are a lot of sv owners that are restricted to 33bhp and after 2 years they can de restrict their sv's to full power
timwilky
24-05-05, 05:54 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
Carsick
24-05-05, 05:59 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
if you're under 21 you can't get an unrestricted license straight off. Some people don't feel comfortable with the larger bike during their test, some people can't put their feet down.
A variety of reasons.
weegaz22
24-05-05, 06:00 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
you cant if your under 21, you have to ride restricted for 2 years if your say 17, then you get to move to unrestricted licence
Alas, if you live in Northern Ireland, there is no direct access course (DAS) which allows you to go straight to a full licence :evil:
My restrictor is out in 2 weeks :lol:
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I can expain counter steering and I can do it, but I cannot make you understand it 8-[ My training is nearly complete Obi-Wan! :lol
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Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
You can ride any bike
As soon as i passed my test, i could have rode away on a rocket III if i wanted to, it would have just had to have been restricted to 33bhp
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
You can ride any bike
As soon as i passed my test, i could have rode away on a rocket III if i wanted to, it would have just had to have been restricted to 33bhp
Apparently, someone did restrict a Hayabusa to 33bhp imagine :roll:
hall13uk
24-05-05, 11:15 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
You can ride any bike
As soon as i passed my test, i could have rode away on a rocket III if i wanted to, it would have just had to have been restricted to 33bhp
Apparently, someone did restrict a Hayabusa to 33bhp imagine :roll:
bet it needed training wheels :lol:
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
You can ride any bike
As soon as i passed my test, i could have rode away on a rocket III if i wanted to, it would have just had to have been restricted to 33bhp
Apparently, someone did restrict a Hayabusa to 33bhp imagine :roll:
yeah rich 18year old from Cheltemham where i live, bourght a brand new Duucati 748 and asked them to restrict it for him :lol: after 2 years he wanted to sell it back to them, they took restrictors out rode it, and the shop refused to buy it :lol: , putting the restrictor kits on big power bike (well i know a 748 isnt that powerful)but it realy ****s them up
SVeeedy Gonzales
25-05-05, 07:35 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but why do people get restricted licences?, surely you are better off with a licence that permits you to ride any bike?
if you're under 21 you can't get an unrestricted license straight off. Some people don't feel comfortable with the larger bike during their test, some people can't put their feet down.
A variety of reasons.
Or if like me, you keep mucking up the u-turn on the test until you've had enough and decide to cop out by doing the test on a 125cc... :oops: 6 weeks to go until no more restriction! Hayabusa here I come!
Last Action Pimp
25-05-05, 08:16 PM
my sv performs fine for a 33bhp, i have done over 8 thousand miles and am still loving it, tho i think the restriction should only be 1 year (meaning mine would be out in 2 weeks) because i think i could handle the full power sv650 or the z1000 and it would really help me with my job (motorcycle mechanic)
xvs
my sv performs fine for a 33bhp, i have done over 8 thousand miles and am still loving it, tho i think the restriction should only be 1 year (meaning mine would be out in 2 weeks) because i think i could handle the full power sv650 or the z1000 and it would really help me with my job (motorcycle mechanic)
xvs
I agree with you on that one, 2 years is far too long, without restrictors on, the SV isnt totally different tbh, took mine out for a few days last year when i was doing some work that involved stripping some parts of the bike.
The delivery is basically the same, except on the restrcited one, the SV sort of dies off at 7000-7500 rpm, the unrestricted one has a nice bit of kick in power, but not nearly so much as a IL4.
Mine 2 years are over in 3 weekd though, cant wait :lol: :lol:
hall13uk
02-06-05, 08:30 PM
only 1yr & 5months left for me.
i am not counting really. :roll:
yeah rich 18year old from Cheltemham where i live, bourght a brand new Duucati 748 and asked them to restrict it for him :lol: after 2 years he wanted to sell it back to them, they took restrictors out rode it, and the shop refused to buy it :lol: , putting the restrictor kits on big power bike (well i know a 748 isnt that powerful)but it realy f*cks them up
not true, all the restrictors do is to restrict the air intake with suzuki original kit on carbed bikes on FI change the ecu box which has a diffrent fuel mapping to restrict the power. It will not mess the bike up. They probably refused to take it back because he suffed it up.
other boffs will explain better.
Its not just the air intake mate, else that way the bike would run really rich.
I dont know fully either, but its a much smaller washer which is attached to the carbs (on mine anyway) which restricts the amount of fuel/air mixture which is taken in during the induction stroke, therefore not as much can be burned giving less power (as is my understanding)
Can somebody explain this properly please, cuz iv always wondered... :oops:
Vtwinlover
05-06-05, 01:49 PM
My first SV650s was "restricted" had it for almost a year before i wrote it off. The SV is a perfect bike to restrict cos of the Vtwin nature it doesnt suffer low down in the revs.
From memory it was just a shim in the carb which stopped the throttle valve from opening all the way. That why the throttle is at its maximum at about 3/4 twist.
I'm now on my second SVs -02 full bore nearly 20K miles and not a glitch.
elmerfud
06-06-05, 08:12 PM
Its not just the air intake mate, else that way the bike would run really rich.
I dont know fully either, but its a much smaller washer which is attached to the carbs (on mine anyway) which restricts the amount of fuel/air mixture which is taken in during the induction stroke, therefore not as much can be burned giving less power (as is my understanding)
Can somebody explain this properly please, cuz iv always wondered... :oops:
JP - on the curvies it really is only a washer with a smaller diameter hole that restricts the bike.
If you give a restricted curvy a handfull of throttle, the washer will only allow a smaller amount of air to feed the pots - hence the revs dying off at approx 7k.
Basically, if the engine can't breathe enough fuel + AIR in at the right (stoichiometric) mixture, the power is reduced. If you tried to increase the fuel mixture to get more power, it couldn't work as the fuel would not have enough air to mix with to get an efficient burn.
Vtwinlover
06-06-05, 08:32 PM
Elmerfud,
That was probably a better description than mine but i think you may be referring to an aftermartket kit. I believe mine was an official suzuki one and it wasnt a washer. But a piece of plastic that stopped the slide in the carb from opening fully.
http://www.glarkware.com/media/product_main_g_carbs.jpg
BernardBikerchick
06-06-05, 09:11 PM
ohhh i feel for the lot of ya !! 20 days for me to go can't wait !!!! me fella thinks its' really funny to burn me off at the lights ..... :evil: :evil: :evil: ......wait till i'm de ristricted !! yipphheedooodaarrr!!!! :D :D :D
elmerfud
06-06-05, 09:39 PM
Elmerfud,
That was probably a better description than mine but i think you may be referring to an aftermartket kit. I believe mine was an official suzuki one and it wasnt a washer. But a piece of plastic that stopped the slide in the carb from opening fully.
hmmmm interesting, that means there is 2 different kits to do the same thing on curvies.
I know kwak used to use the carb top trick to keep zzr's down to 125bhp before they ripped up the rule book :wink:
Carsick
06-06-05, 09:43 PM
hmmmm interesting, that means there is 2 different kits to do the same thing on curvies.
At least 2, probably loads more, since there are more than a few ways to restrict a carbed bike.
Saint Matt
07-06-05, 08:56 AM
I dont think there should be a restriction as it's a very blunt tool, you could just not ride for 2 years, then jump on an R1 / Fireblade etc. If (when) im in charge i would have another test on a full power bike so the rider is competant on a full power bike. Maybe im just saying that cos i have another 2 years ahead of me of 33 bhpness
Elmerfud,
That was probably a better description than mine but i think you may be referring to an aftermartket kit. I believe mine was an official suzuki one and it wasnt a washer. But a piece of plastic that stopped the slide in the carb from opening fully.
The aftermarket kits are washers while the original suzuki kit is a replacement carb slider (the black bit). The suzuki it is cheeper, it cost me £50 there bouts while the other ones seem to be more expensive,
The suzuki kit is better on fuel economy than the washers on aftermarket kits.
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