4 Chavs in a clio... to sue or not...

[Anonymous]

Hi folks, im beginning to think that im cursed!

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

As i approached a red light, i realised id have to stop with these d1cks behind/next to me... so i slowed down, did really good observations, and with nothing coming, proceeded to jump the red light... low and behold, they jumped it too. I turned into a side street where no one ever goes... they followed me. So for the next half hour i drove around town, trying to lose them, they followed me all the time. As i crossed a cross road, heading towards the rail station, there is taxi rank on the left hand side, with a cab manovering near the road, he looked like hes about to pull out, so i slowed down - not an emergency stop, but certainly very quickly. Next think i know, theres a screech of breaks, and the ****ers drive straight into the back of me at about 40mph. BUGGER!! :evil:

I get out, to swap details, as i do so, all 4 of them get out of their car, and start giving it mouth and making gestures for a fight. Im not in the mood, so i get back in my car and drive off. As i do so, i immediately get on the mobile, and put in a 999 call, informing the police that ive just been involved in an RTA, but for reasons of personal safety ive left the scene without speaknig to the 3rd party. I inform the police im going straight down to fulford police station - the operator on the phone says ive done the right thing.

I get to the police station, and make myself known at the front desk. The police spend 30 mins looking into it, studying cctv footage etc, and they confirm that the car behind was tailgating, that i did the right thing in stopping for the cab, and that i am completely not to blame for any aspect of the collision. They advise that i should just let their insurance deal with it. (The police checked, and they DO have insurance).

Their car is totalled apparently, according to the police, it had to be recovered, radiator all smashed in, wing buckled etc. My car appears alright, bumper is smashed, the boot wont open, so that night be a twisted chassis... have to wait and see.

So, im now at work, sorting everything out... and do you know, my back is hurting a little bit.... whats the proceedure for claiming whiplash/injuries? 8)

[Carsick]

As much as I hate the compensation culture, if you're injured, you're injured. Go to your doctor then go from there.

Edit: Just a point. An injury claim shouldn't be for revenge, it's not about whether they deserve to be sued, it's to recover any losses caused by the accident.

[Ping]

What he said. :)

[mysteryjimbo]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

Otherwise not your fault. Do your best with the solicitors.

[Anonymous]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

Otherwise not your fault. Do your best with the solicitors.

Because i was on my way home, and the only other way to my house is to head out of town, jump onto the A64 then spend 20 mins circumnavigating York to get back to the other side, and then head back into the city again. Besides, i didnt fancy my chances with 4 "townies" in the middle of town at 1130 at night. I didnt want to stop for my own safety, the same reason i left the scene.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

I was about to say the same, but then when you've got a car full of ********s following you who've no regard for their own safety let alone yours, you probably won't be thinking straight.

Glad it didn't result in you getting hurt GYKD, hope they get it in the neck.

[Ping]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

Otherwise not your fault. Do your best with the solicitors.
The whole point of jumping the red was to avoid stopping I think. If you don't know what a group of 4 chavs are going to do, they were certainly acting aggressively, why give them the opportunity to do anything?

It's THEIR actions that got them where they are. I call it poetic justice.

[mysteryjimbo]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

Otherwise not your fault. Do your best with the solicitors.
The whole point of jumping the red was to avoid stopping I think. If you don't know what a group of 4 chavs are going to do, they were certainly acting aggressively, why give them the opportunity to do anything?

It's THEIR actions that got them where they are. I call it poetic justice.

As time wasnt mentioned in the original post I would have thought nothing to stopping at the lights at say 6 or 7pm and just ignoring them.

But as described they overtook him etc. Simply pulling over into a carpark or something (whilst staying in the car, locked) possibly could have ended it was my point. Instead they were overtaken where they proceeded to tailgate. Overtaking a chav is surely like throwing down the gauntlet??

But not knowing the route etc i couldnt comment any more than on what i would have done in that situation.

I would have gone through the red light if things had got that far.

[Ping]

Driving home last night i noticed a blue clio behind be driving erratically. As they pulled alongside me on the duel carriageway, i spotted 4 chavs in this car, all gesturing wildly - middle fingre, w@nker signs etc. They overtook me and started slowing down, speeding up etc. I dropped back so they slowed right down again. I overtook them and drove off. They were right upbehind me on the main road into york from Hull, flashing their headlights etc.

Why didnt you just leave it there and stop or turn off?? Possible that jumping the light made them think they could show off more? Neither of things i'd have done.

Otherwise not your fault. Do your best with the solicitors.
The whole point of jumping the red was to avoid stopping I think. If you don't know what a group of 4 chavs are going to do, they were certainly acting aggressively, why give them the opportunity to do anything?

It's THEIR actions that got them where they are. I call it poetic justice.

As time wasnt mentioned in the original post I would have thought nothing to stopping at the lights at say 6 or 7pm and just ignoring them.

But as described they overtook him etc. Simply pulling over into a carpark or something (whilst staying in the car, locked) possibly could have ended it was my point. Instead they were overtaken where they proceeded to tailgate. Overtaking a chav is surely like throwing down the gauntlet??
But not knowing the route etc i couldnt comment any more than on what i would have done in that situation.

I would have gone through the red light if things had got that far.
Very true, but what can ya do? :lol:

[Iceman]

I think you should try and sue the little blighter!

His insurance premium is going to be really high, especially if your car is in a real bad way. i.e. chasis damaged.

Some people really shouldn't be on the road, I would like to know if the cops are going to persue "Driving without due care and attention" or "Dangerous Driving".

A nice ban would be good aswell :twisted:

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Pity the insurance register probably won't take note of intentionally aggressive driving. By the sound of it they ought to be blackballed by the insurers/banned from driving for a year or two for stuff like that. :roll:

[Mr Steve]

if 4 chavs want to behave in such a way then they deserve everything you can throw at them....
any injuries may take weeks to show up so be careful and get checked out.
besides, if you claim, it will put their insurance up and then they will have to get a smaller cc car so they wont be able to stalk people anymore.

- or just go on a crime spree..... :roll:

[Biker Biggles]

Get a lawyer and let them advise you on how to sue and what for.And get your injuries documented by your doctor so that they can be included.

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Oh yeah - and sue away my good friend. You must have SOME injury even if very minor, and the law states that where you have physical injury you can claim additionally for mental trauma (but not purely for mental trauma, at least so my solicitors tell me...). The trauma of being pursued for a long time, rammed, threatened, etc. it may well be that their insurers are happy to roll over just to save the little @#£$%&*s from some serious community service or more.

Be wary of the "our client has 3 independant witnesses" (his 3 chav mates with him) - I had this with a cabbie who knocked me off. Had his mate in the front seat, they were chatting about backing each other up while I was sitting there, then hey presto, when it gets investigated he was just an innocent passenger and had never met the cabbie before. How strange. If they didn't want to get sued they shouldn't have done what they did, and they won't learn anything from this unless they get sued senseless and maybe some sort of community service, etc.

Good luck!

[mysteryjimbo]

if you claim, it will put their insurance up and then they will have to get a smaller cc car so they wont be able to stalk people anymore.

- or just go on a crime spree..... :roll:

Dont bet on it. I was at the pub yesterday and some chav and his "ladies" was boasting about driving without a license or insurance at 100mph..... Wanted to go lamp him.

[minky]

If you are injured then claim, also ensure the police pursue the matter with a view to prosecuting them for their driving and aggresive manner.

[Saint Matt]

Sue him, i would

[Carsick]

ASBOs all round, surely?

[Anonymous]

Just spoke again to my insurer. Apparently i have legal expenses on my cover, and also access to a BUPA Solicitor!

Their legal team is looking into persuing a personal injury claim on my behalf. The insurer agrees that it was entirely the 3rd parties fault. So here goes... what do you recon is in it for me?

My lower back is hurting/aching... which it has never done before, i am struggling to sit at my desk/stand up for long periods of time.

[fizzwheel]

If you have a geniune injury you should make a claim, as for the well their car is totally so what goes around comes around IMHO

I've had this before when I had my Nova, Been followed home and to work both times I reacted aggressivly ( not saying you did GYKD )

First time I went hairing through tiny little country back roads that I knew like the back of my hand and said moron ran his car off the road into a ditch

2nd time all I did, was just to drive slower and slower and slower, till the point I was almost at a standstill with the doors locked just in case, Eventually they got bored and drove off and I drove along minding my own business till I couldnt see them and then drove home.

You did the right thing in going to the police though, personally thats what I would probably do now just drive slowly along the my local cop shop observing the speed limits and not reacting or doing anything to wind the other person up.

Hope your OK look after yourself GYKD

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

ASBOs all round, surely?

Or more likely "Even more ASBOs for their already impressive collection"


What's the story on dobbing people in - say that guy boasting of driving at 100mph with no insurance? Obviously there's no law about saying it, but unless they catch them doing it what can they do?

Probably best to just glass him on the way out :thumbsup:

[Anonymous]

I think you should try and sue the little blighter!

Some people really shouldn't be on the road, I would like to know if the cops are going to persue "Driving without due care and attention" or "Dangerous Driving".



If only you understood the irony of that comment ;)

[Daimo]

Sorry but this is the way the world is going and unless things change the little scroats will get away with it...

Insurance cailms are always being made, and althoguh people whinge that claims put their premiums up, the insurance companies will always add more every year...

I'd say claim against him, try to get him in court, put the wind up him. Maybe he'll grow out of being a complete little bellend...

[Anonymous]

I think you should try and sue the little blighter!

Some people really shouldn't be on the road, I would like to know if the cops are going to persue "Driving without due care and attention" or "Dangerous Driving".



If only you understood the irony of that comment ;)

Mpaton2005 - go on mate. have a pop - if that makes you feel big and clever - you're sadder than i ever thought!

Im not going to open the debate on whether riding fast makes you dangerous or not again - but like ive always said - im not dangerous... and i would never do what this **** was doing last night.

[Red ones]

If it is that cut and dried I would claim.

I had a scrote hit my parked car when it was in a marked bay on that could only be accessed over the pavement. He skidded 50 yards to hit it - he was deliberately seeing how far he could skid (he also totalled the wifes car and did structural to the house).

He lied like crazy, made up strange allegations too. After 10 months of arguing about it, any sympathy or guilt about chasing the claim was well and truly gone. By then all I wanted was to screw the guy for every penny!

[creamerybutter]

Be wary of the "our client has 3 independant witnesses" (his 3 chav mates with him) - I had this with a cabbie who knocked me off. Had his mate in the front seat, they were chatting about backing each other up while I was sitting there, then hey presto, when it gets investigated he was just an innocent passenger and had never met the cabbie before. How strange. If they didn't want to get sued they shouldn't have done what they did, and they won't learn anything from this unless they get sued senseless and maybe some sort of community service, etc.

Good luck!

They can't be classed as independent witnesses, it is feasible for a taxi to have complete stranger in his car but for a group of lads to be driving around together and not know the driver is unlikely.

GYKD I would claim if you are genuinely injured but you claiming won’t really affect them more than totaling their car already has.

[Lou M]

At the end of the day he went into the back of you, whatever the circumstances, and the police have it on CCTV that he was tailgating.

If your lower back is hurting and you're uncomfortable you need to have it checked out. I was hit from behind in my car 18 years ago, got £2500 for whiplash and still suffer now, so I have no remorse on sueing, I had to give up two hobbies cos of it, and have days now when I can't go out on the bike. :(
You can't mess about with backs or necks.

[Ping]

At the end of the day he went into the back of you, whatever the circumstances, and the police have it on CCTV that he was tailgating.

If your lower back is hurting and you're uncomfortable you need to have it checked out. I was hit from behind in my car 18 years ago, got £2500 for whiplash and still suffer now, so I have no remorse on sueing, I had to give up two hobbies cos of it, and have days now when I can't go out on the bike. :(
You can't mess about with backs or necks.
So true. I got whiplash in a car accident (we were hit from behind) and although I claimed at the time I've still got all sorts of neck and shoulder problems now... :?

Edit: the accident was around 10 years ago now...

[Anonymous]

Been to the docs - its officially "a mild case of whiplash" - so there is a genuine reason to claim.

[Warren]

go for it :twisted: